If hes donking 2/3rd pot with a Qx type hand, he isn't folding it IMO.

If you raise river I think its a jam, you have about $4 back on top. No matter what you raise you can't fold.

On the flop the only hands you need to be worried about are Q9, Q4. I dont know why he would donk 44/99 but you cant rule them out. I still like raising the flop and if he jams then I prob just fold. He has Qx and TJ a ton here.

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Doesn't make sense. You wanna raise for value then fold, but that he'll have a Q or TJ most often?

Raise somewhere in the hand definately, prob river, and yeah jam it

Line check on river play please. Check or bet? What betsize if we're betting?

Villain is 17/7/1Af over 61 hands, not seen him 3bet, no reads

^Bet .75 of pot you should be ahead most of the times. For all Vs. if you get c/r fold

You can raise for value and fold.

He will have Q, TJ and other crap a decent amount and call a raise, the times he has 99/Q9 he will probably 3bet the flop and we can fold.

Just like if the CO raises and I have JJ on the BTN. Im 3betting for value, if he 4bets and he's going to have QQ+ here so I can fold.

Hmm, not the same and not sure i agree with either tbh.

How do u know he doesn't get it in with Qx or JT and ur throwing away the best hand?

If u would play it this way then u would never be raising the flop without the nuts.

Is he literally 0/0?

Player search him to decide if he's a fish or not

oop, I cant see anyone playing a set this way (on Q94r) why would he donk out like that when the board is dry and you would be expected to bet yourself? It makes more sense if he has a draw or QX on the flop.

Im not very clever at making river raises, will read other peoples replies.

You dont know he wont but most unknowns at 5NL wont be doing that IMO. They donk/fold if they have nothing, donk/call if they have pair/draw and donk/reraise 2 pair/sets. When he leads out here im going to assume hes a fish though.

I would raise this flop with any hand better than QK.

Bet fold river, villain can call with worse.

Not folding that TT hand dil, if hes a fish I like that 3bet pre, If a reg I prefer a flat. Checking behind flop as the only hand we fold out that is better tha ours is JJ and we cant get value from anythiung. OTT we hit our gin card and cant give him credit for only having AJ since he can be doing this with random crap like QK, KT or draws. He may also have QQ some of the time but would we expect him to 4b it a decent amount.

Yeh this is wrong.

Cheers for explaining why, clears that up.

thanks for the analysis gamma. I shoved, and he snapped with yep, AJ. Was thinking I should've folded though, because we were so deep and V would only be getting it in most of the times with the nuts only

PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $5.22
SB: $2.50
BB: $2.50
UTG: $5.93
MP: $10.35
Hero (CO): $12.54

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has K A

fold, MP raises to $0.15, Hero raises to $0.45, fold, fold, fold, MP raises to $1.10, Hero calls $0.65

Flop: ($2.27, 2 players) 9 4 A
MP bets $1.10, Hero calls $1.10

Turn: ($4.47, 2 players) 6
MP checks, Hero bets $2.65, MP calls $2.65

River: ($9.77, 2 players) 4
MP bets $3.45, Hero raises to $6.90, MP calls $2.05 and is all-in

I tanked for a while OTR before shoving. Is this okay if we're so deep? V is 30/24/1 3bet of 11 over 188 hands. Before calling I felt like I was already behind, but then looking at the board he would've c/r me with something like A4 OTT.

PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): $6.80
SB: $9.62
BB: $5.53
UTG: $11.29
MP: $6.72
CO: $7.05

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has A 9

fold, fold, CO calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.15, fold, BB calls $0.10, CO calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.47, 3 players) 6 9 2
BB bets $0.25, fold, Hero calls $0.25

Turn: ($0.97, 2 players) A
BB checks, Hero bets $0.75, BB raises to $1.50, Hero calls $0.75

River: ($3.97, 2 players) 3
BB bets $2.45, Hero folds

Took some advice from this thread, and knew that with a c/r OTT villian usually has it, and shipping it OTR I knew that he could have a set. Too nitty fold perhaps? V is unknown.

h1. AKo i flat pre deep oop . As played just calling river.

H2. I call- /fd missed. He could have worse for value and we are near top of our range.
As for c/r on turn i think that applys for when we double barrel and they raise the turn. This is an unusal line.

i don't think i could fold the A9 hand

Three consecutive hands vs this villain in rush, he was already blowing up the chat after hand #1, by end of hand # 3 probably punched the wall. Thought he'd jam very light hand #2 hence the flat, squeezing anyway is probably the better play.

This doesnt make sense. If he jams light, get a hand thats better than his range and call his shove or jam yourself.

I think he is jamming light, I think he is calling ATC which I should of clarified. If I squeeze and he flats the CO/BTN are most likely going to be entering the pot also - bloated pot OOP with AKo, although that isn't really a bad situation with AKo, so yeah I agree it wasn't an optimal line.

pot size bet otf in hand 1 seems better.

squeeze AKo

and jamming TT is pretty meh

any reads oop?

assuming he's an unknown, all hands are wp, although just like losing shark says, I might just raise the TT hand, and let him spaz vs you
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PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $6.74
SB: $4.17
BB: $10.48
Hero (UTG): $8.75
MP: $5.00
CO: $10.50

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has Q K

Hero raises to $0.15, fold, fold, fold, SB calls $0.13, fold

Flop: ($0.35, 2 players) K 9 Q
SB bets $0.25, Hero raises to $0.75, SB calls $0.50

Turn: ($1.85, 2 players) 2
SB bets $0.85, Hero raises to $4.30

is the shove fine against unknown? or should we just call it down instead?

Well what kind of range r u putting him on for calling flop n donking turn?

Its obvious hes a fish, the play is obv never bad in that case.. I would personally rather just call turn and if he checks riv, I can shove, if he shoves riv, I jus snap call..

Im not even afraid of any river at this point

villian would def be getting it in with TJ, so he doesn't have that, seems like a fish donking with AK, A9, AQ, 9Q, possibly 22 (he wouldn't be calling my raise then on flop). Hands like 99 and QQ are possible too, but wouldn't random villians get it in on flop too?