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10-19-2012 , 08:44 PM

#6001

LosingShark

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Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 1,008

leak busters is pretty crappy imo for looking for leaks, it just tells you if your playing standard or not and usually isnt the most +ev its just anything above ev

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10-19-2012 , 11:49 PM

#6002

Bocavi

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Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 212

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) ZOOM - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $5.57
SB: $5.80
BB: $3.34
Hero (UTG): $6.64
MP: $3.03
CO: $10.68

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has K

Hero raises to $0.15, fold, CO calls $0.15, fold, fold, BB raises to $0.35, Hero ?

Alot of times I find myself in these spots alot am i price in to call ?

I also find it in these spots with hands on the btn/co where a villain 3 bet 2x or 2x +1 BB am I price into to call ?

Sometimes when I call I find out that this is actually the QQ+,AQ+ n sometimes its just some broad way,suited ace n some pocket pairs ?

Because of this my call 3bet stats are -ev cause they 2x n 2x+ 1 limper ?

Last edited by Bocavi; 10-19-2012 at 11:55 PM.

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10-19-2012 , 11:58 PM

#6003

Frostyice

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Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,998

Depends on villain, if they raise small they can have a wide variety of hands

Usually I'll just go by position

Meaning if they raise my UTG from SB or BB they usually have KK+

If they do it from CO/BTN I'm a bit more lenient with the range and assuming Axs QQ+

Usually you should fold if your UTG raise gets 3bet

size only matters if they do this a lot

if they have <5% 3bet it's probably safe to fold anything but KK

I usually view this as an opportunity to setmine, because we're usually have to pay 4bb more to see a flop wich is awesome

with AK this is just a gamble, and it's safe to make a small mistake for 3bb instead of making a big mistake postflop

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10-20-2012 , 02:41 AM

#6004

Micro Zoom Addict

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Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 777

Had enough off full ring back to 6max. Lol im hopeless. Going to try 2 table and take time making decisions and play 10nl instead of 5nl.

Going to have to put in some volume somehow still as i still need to pump out 40k hands before the end of the month. Stupid prop bets.

Got to keep reminding myself to not dickswing with the aggro regs. Plenty of fish to fry.

eg:

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BTN: $5.25 (52.5 bb)
SB: $26.82 (268.2 bb)
BB: $31.28 (312.8 bb)
UTG: $9.29 (92.9 bb)
Hero (MP): $13.77 (137.7 bb)
CO: $17.91 (179.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with K

UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.30, 2 folds, SB calls $0.25, BB folds

Flop: ($0.70) 4

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.42, SB calls $0.42

Turn: ($1.54) 7

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($1.54) 9

(2 players)
SB bets $26.10 and is all-in, Hero calls $13.05

Spoiler:

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10-20-2012 , 02:49 AM

#6005

Micro Zoom Addict

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Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 777

http://www.pokerstars.com/poker/prom...ampaign=E43029

Has anyone been doing this? When i wake up a bit more i might give it ago lol.

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10-20-2012 , 03:58 AM

#6006

Dunna100

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@Bocavi

Reraise big and get it all in pre imo.

BB is shortstacked and likely fish. CO doesn't have a strong hand or would raise himself, and will now be squeezed out. U are flipping at worst with BB.

Learn to use you're hud stats to decide what type of villain you are facing and decide that way.

Being priced in normally refers to PPs or a drawing hand when ur last to act. Villain has minbet u so even then I'd pretty much call anything i raised utg with anyway (thats not a premium hand)

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10-20-2012 , 05:16 AM

#6007

ewht91

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Originally Posted by Micro Zoom Addict

http://www.pokerstars.com/poker/prom...ampaign=E43029

Has anyone been doing this? When i wake up a bit more i might give it ago lol.

It doesn't start until Monday so don't worry about it too much yet.

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10-20-2012 , 05:47 AM

#6008

iCanucks88

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Originally Posted by ewht91

It doesn't start until Monday so don't worry about it too much yet.

The suits matters right?

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10-20-2012 , 06:12 AM

#6009

Raymoth

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Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 355

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Originally Posted by iCanucks88

The suits matters right?

Yes, even for the pocket pairs.

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10-20-2012 , 08:37 AM

#6010

Queen6Suited

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Originally Posted by Micro Zoom Addict

UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.30, 2 folds, SB calls $0.25, BB folds

Flop: ($0.70) 4

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.42, SB calls $0.42

Turn: ($1.54) 7

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($1.54) 9

(2 players)
SB bets $26.10 and is all-in, Hero calls $13.05

Spoiler:

You pretty much have to bet turn, so much equity, plus fish gunna call Ax otf and fold on the turn a lot. And if you didn't know he's a fish it's an even clearer bet.

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10-20-2012 , 09:10 AM

#6011

Zoomnl

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Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 48

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Originally Posted by Micro Zoom Addict

http://www.pokerstars.com/poker/prom...ampaign=E43029

Has anyone been doing this? When i wake up a bit more i might give it ago lol.

Anyone know if you can acquire the bonus several times per day or its only once per day?

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10-20-2012 , 10:45 AM

#6012

Raymoth

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Sent an mail to stars asking for some clarity on the promotion, got this as a reply

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You get a credit for each hand of the day that you win, no matter how many you win in one day, but those hands have to have been played on Real Money Zoom Hold'em session, and has to have been uploaded using BOOM! Hand Replayer.

The seven B000000M! Hands of the Day chosen by some of Team PokerStars Pros biggest names are:

Monday - Bertrand Grospellier: 8d 8h
Tuesday - David Williams: Ah 4s
Wednesday - Victor Ramdin: 7c 5c
Thursday - Eugene Katchalov: 4h 4d
Friday - Randy Lew: Qd 10c
Saturday - Chris Moneymaker: Ks 7h
Sunday - Isaac Haxton: 3d 2d

Only hands won at "showdown" count, meaning all players remaining in the hand had to turn their cards over to determine who had the best hand. If a final bet or raise was not called, there is no showdown and the hand does not count.

Hands of the Day have to be won and shared via BOOM! between 00:00 ET and 23:59 ET on each specific day. Hands won but not shared to BOOM! between these hours on the same day will not be eligible for the promotion. Only hands won on Zoom poker tables will qualify.

If your hand matches the Hand of the Day and you have done as described above, your 100 big blind prize will be credited within 24 hours of uploading the hand on BOOM!.

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10-20-2012 , 12:29 PM

#6013

Frostyice

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Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,998

mhmmm chance of getting dealt a certain hand was all combos = 52*51/2 and we want 1 out of it

So we're getting dealt that hand are 1:1325 or once every 1326 hands

Now winning this at showdown, probably checking through every time we get dealt it so villain can never fold

Sounds doable

uuhmm on a sidenote they don't care if I have 8d 8h or 8h 8d do they ?

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10-20-2012 , 12:34 PM

#6014

Micro Zoom Addict

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Kinda like the deuce 7 variant you sometimes see on tv. Looking forward to it.

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10-20-2012 , 12:54 PM

#6015

Raymoth

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Originally Posted by Frostyice

uuhmm on a sidenote they don't care if I have 8d 8h or 8h 8d do they ?

I seriously doubt they would be that pedantic.

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10-20-2012 , 01:04 PM

#6016

nismo9

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Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 4,548

Quote:

Originally Posted by Micro Zoom Addict

http://www.pokerstars.com/poker/prom...ampaign=E43029

Has anyone been doing this? When i wake up a bit more i might give it ago lol.

Lol, Haxton trolling.

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10-20-2012 , 01:10 PM

#6017

Raymoth

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I wonder if its possible to find out out which of these hands lose people the most money in the upcoming days. Wouldn't mind making a little side bet on it.

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10-20-2012 , 02:00 PM

#6018

IndigoMD91

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nismo9

Lol, Haxton trolling.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTLDuLCavzo
Haxton bluffing

that means, monday, even is I flop a quads of 8's need to check it to the river to won 100 BB. esp is oppoent has less than 100 BB

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10-20-2012 , 02:12 PM

#6019

Frostyice

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no, only if the suits are 8d8h

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10-20-2012 , 02:14 PM

#6020

Frostyice

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Raymoth

I wonder if its possible to find out out which of these hands lose people the most money in the upcoming days. Wouldn't mind making a little side bet on it.

as I said the chance to get the exact suits of the hand are 1 in 1326

+ it's neccesary to win the showdown so ppl won't jam these hands but call lighter with them

so if you play 10k hands you'll probably have the hand like 8x and if you win at showdown once it's done so I don't think it's ever possible to lose a lot of money on these hands

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10-20-2012 , 02:15 PM

#6021

IndigoMD91

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Frostyice

no, only if the suits are 8d8h

yes, and on the flop is another two 8

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10-20-2012 , 02:24 PM

#6022

Frostyice

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Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,998

unless villain is willing to put stacks in check/calling would be the best play as you'll get 100bb if you win the showdown (which is likely) and if you make him fold at any point you'll get just what he put in the pot soo

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10-20-2012 , 05:56 PM

#6023

Frostyice

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Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,998

I did ask

Quote:

Thank you for your email regarding our new promotion B000000M!.

The suit does matter however the order does not. So for the example you have mentioned if you get 8d 8h on Monday or 8h 8d either one would win.

To respond to your second question you can win more than once a day. Of course if it is on a showdown and if uploaded as per promotion guidelines.

Looks like you can get the 100bb infinite times per day

*headscratch* sounds like this allows for big angles like with the billionth hand celebration

What would keep people from colluding 24tabling heads up folding 100% except 8h8d on monday? and checking this through to showdown?

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10-20-2012 , 06:01 PM

#6024

Dunna100

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Coz it really ain't worth it for 100bbs?

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10-20-2012 , 06:15 PM

#6025

iCanucks88

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Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 86

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frostyice

I did ask

Looks like you can get the 100bb infinite times per day

*headscratch* sounds like this allows for big angles like with the billionth hand celebration

What would keep people from colluding 24tabling heads up folding 100% except 8h8d on monday? and checking this through to showdown?

Isn't this only in Zoom Poker? So I assume you can't go heads up?

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