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03-23-2012 , 01:19 PM
Thx man at least somebody does
I´m mixing both too more NL 50 and Nl 100 next to my tourneys.. I was bored pretty often during my mtt sessions and had to smoke pretty much of that green stuff to be easy with them but now thx to zoom I have something to do
zoom:
1. good and ez money
2. saves money cuz I cant smoke that much while playing cash game

classic win win situation for me ! Thx pokerstars

jeah hu4hoes ur def right with that 4 betting flat and c/f flop action ! big like imo

also I think ppl are not really that nitty in NL 25+ and keep me 3-4 betting alot even mith marginal hands.

I remember NL 100 5 bet pot both almost 250bbs deep where villain was trying to bluff me in position with a K5o on a Axx drawy board... trying to 2 barrel me before he gave up on river ?!

May be its cuz of me but I seem to play a different zoom game than other itt !?
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03-23-2012 , 01:25 PM
not rolled for 100nl yet so cant play it

yeah, i think 50nl zoom is way more aggro than the normal 6max 50nl
im playing something like 24/21/8% atm at 50nl zoom

its making me flat wider than usual as well
yeah i do have regs who just barrel a ton with out no equity pretty lols
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03-23-2012 , 01:34 PM
Yeah I noticed a lot of people flatting 3bets and 4bets - there seems to be some very weird universal 3bet sizing now too. I always open to 3xBB (NL5) and I keep getting 3bet to 0.35, the few occassions I've played back it seems like they're weak with this sizing but it may be possible that people at the lower limits are 3betting JJ/TT/AK etc to this sizing.

Had a pretty nitty session, only 1 200BB in 1K hands so NL5 has definitely become a lot more nittier recently. The flatting of 3bets/4bets so wide is strange as I don't recall it happening all that often at the normal tables but I 3bet an UTG open with AKs and he shows up with A9s, what the hell. Most of the time I 3bet I can take it down on pretty much any board, although people seem to believe that if the board is 8 high then there TT is automatically good in a 3bet pot - its lols.
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03-23-2012 , 01:34 PM
I've only played zoom at 10 and 25NL 6max so far.

In both, I'm being much tighter than usual in my opening range, especially from early position, and much looser than usual in my 3betting, especially from the button and small blind. People seem to be opening much looser than normal, especially UTG, so I'm quite often 3betting vs ep opens and getting folds. Also, opening frequency from the small blind is very high, so I'm defending my big blind more often from sb opens than usual.

And there are plenty of players betting with no story who are easy to pick off. I guess it will settle down soon, but at the moment it's a barrel shoot - even for a semi-sentient noob like me.
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03-23-2012 , 01:34 PM
Thats why I am playing too !
Def more juice in it although the players are not better ...
Somebody said itt before regs seem to be worser than in normal games cuz they get deeper pretty soon... I do agree so much with it althogu I am not that kind of cash game reg on stars atm...

Btw what do u think about the "strategy" (lol) winning some BIs and quitting the tables just to restart the or better to say a new session ?? I think "real" regs dont do so but there are surely some semi-regs (I think I saw enough that are acting like this)
This seems to me like a typical short stack strategy although I am talking about they keep buying inn for 100 bbs.. Any suggestion ?

Thx in advice
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03-23-2012 , 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by raikkonen3
Yeah I noticed a lot of people flatting 3bets and 4bets - there seems to be some very weird universal 3bet sizing now too. I always open to 3xBB (NL5) and I keep getting 3bet to 0.35, the few occassions I've played back it seems like they're weak with this sizing but it may be possible that people at the lower limits are 3betting JJ/TT/AK etc to this sizing.
this I can tell u does happen in NL 50/100 too !

Oh forgot to say that its obv 6max!! I hate fullring

Last edited by DonRolando; 03-23-2012 at 01:37 PM. Reason: I´m stoned
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03-23-2012 , 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by DonRolando
Btw what do u think about the "strategy" (lol) winning some BIs and quitting the tables just to restart the or better to say a new session ?? I think "real" regs dont do so but there are surely some semi-regs (I think I saw enough that are acting like this)
This seems to me like a typical short stack strategy although I am talking about they keep buying inn for 100 bbs.. Any suggestion ?
Because there's not much history, I think players are paying attention to stack sizes and big stack = winning player. If you have a stack of 4 buy-ins, players seem to respect your bluffs more. And we like getting our bluffs through don't we? That's the way it seems to me anyway (admittedly small sample with no analysis), so I'd say keep your big stack in the game and rake it in! (if your bankroll can afford it ofc)
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03-23-2012 , 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by DonRolando
Thats why I am playing too !
Def more juice in it although the players are not better ...
Somebody said itt before regs seem to be worser than in normal games cuz they get deeper pretty soon... I do agree so much with it althogu I am not that kind of cash game reg on stars atm...

Btw what do u think about the "strategy" (lol) winning some BIs and quitting the tables just to restart the or better to say a new session ?? I think "real" regs dont do so but there are surely some semi-regs (I think I saw enough that are acting like this)
This seems to me like a typical short stack strategy although I am talking about they keep buying inn for 100 bbs.. Any suggestion ?


Thx in advice
I don't play as high as you but I think the not so good regs may do this as they will realise not many people who are worse than them (the bad regs and fish) are ever going to be this deep so they are only covering themselves against the strong regs and players of equal standard so they'll either just keep coolering each other or the not so good regs will get outplayed.
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03-23-2012 , 01:47 PM
@ ninja and kimi raikkonen

wait ! I think u guys are both def right in what ur saying but dont u think, limits doesn´t matter) these semi-regs show that they are hmmm weak? or may be dont have the roll or may be are afraid or whatsoeva ?!?

This would be a reason for me to take a note on them on exactly that fact ( I dont do so until it becomes significant ) and its absolutely not my main game at all !!

wow I really hate my written english so much
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03-23-2012 , 02:33 PM
+$65, 530 hands this afternoon (including an AAxxs < AAxxs AIPF).

I'm slipping

427vpps = $77.63 rake haha
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03-23-2012 , 02:37 PM
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427vpps = $77.63 rake haha
You mean Pokerstars has the biggest edge? Hold the front page!
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03-23-2012 , 03:04 PM
I would normally restart my stack but I'm starting to enjoy playing deep.

It's pushing me out my comfort zone because I've never had much experience of deep stacked play. At 6max I used to just quit if I got to more than 250bb+ on a table
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03-23-2012 , 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by DonRolando
Is this really all about NL2, 5 and 10 ???
I am wondering if anybody here itt playing these "high limits" ??
Waiting on HEM myself, I don't like playing without a HUD. Played 2 tables at 2nl for about 10 minutes and won 4 buyins.

I could always run PT3 (which I own) but I'm too lazy to configure the hud. I'm content playing on other sites in the meantime until HM1 gets the hud working.
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03-23-2012 , 03:54 PM
PT3 Zoom hud has random bugs anyway
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03-23-2012 , 04:08 PM
pt4 works good though - with zoom
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03-23-2012 , 04:09 PM
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PT3 Zoom hud has random bugs anyway
I just noticed PT3 has a patch today with some Zoom issues mentioned in the patch notes. When you say it has random bugs, it that using the most recent patch?
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03-23-2012 , 04:32 PM
Nah I haven't updated PT3 today, cos well.. I physically hate it. Will wait for HEM2 re-update (not working for me yet)
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03-23-2012 , 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by zumby
Nah I haven't updated PT3 today, cos well.. I physically hate it. Will wait for HEM2 re-update (not working for me yet)
I hated PT3 but since HEM are intent on ****ing me (yes, me personally) by making HEM2 crap and not supporting HEM1 with insta-Zoom updates, I may switch to the dark side.
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03-23-2012 , 05:22 PM
U really need that HUD so much for zoom ?

I´m not sure about it 100 % but be confident with ur game instead of reading the others game too much imo!
I made enough A high calls or c/r bluffs on certain spots without playing with HUD..
Dunno may be I´m wrong but imo its deifferent than in normal play.
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03-23-2012 , 05:35 PM
wow...seriously tilting... 1 set in 2 hrs of 3 tabling, of course attached to a 3flush board... AK NEVER hit, and I mean never... KK on 3 flush destroyed by A high flush and my personal fave..... AA v a J2o 3bet in blinds he flops a house... think i'll have a few drinks , come back and pi.. away the rest of my roll... look for me on 100NL, weeeeeeeeeee
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03-23-2012 , 05:36 PM
screen name please?
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03-23-2012 , 06:13 PM
lol
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03-23-2012 , 06:42 PM
But i actually know what he means...

when i start playing zoom i was 30 BI´s up @ NL 10 in 2 Days. And i was just like "this is the best game for me.. impossible to tilt.... dunno what i doing right but i do the right!

1 Day after that starts the downer and after 1 week im down 40 BI´s .... After Coooler...Cooolers...Cooolers and finally Tilt..

But anyway i thought.. w/e i have enough fpp´s now ... busting 4k fpps in 235fpp hypers to only won them like 5 times LOOOOOOL

variance hit me when i start to love this game.

stars is rigged!
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03-23-2012 , 07:17 PM
+1 would like to know that as well
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03-24-2012 , 05:25 AM
Ilarias, 4k @ 235fpp hyper = ~ 16 events. cashing 5 of them is ~supernova exchange rate

Im the opposite way round. Lost 15 BI at 10nl Zoom first few days, now winning each session. If you play on average better poker than your opponents, you will get their money (over time). 30 or 40 BI is MASSIVE swings though in a very short time. I would have a heart attack if I was as swingy as that.
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