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What do these stats in the HUD mean? What do these indicate? BB/100 vs Adj-BB/100, etc. What do these stats in the HUD mean? What do these indicate? BB/100 vs Adj-BB/100, etc.

10-19-2016 , 04:19 PM
So I'm looking at my HUD and feel like I run pretty terrible. I'm just not too sure what all these stats mean.

My C-Won right now is -$565.15 My C-All-in Adj is -$292.49.
My BB/100 is -12.60. My All-in Adj BB/100 is -6.52



I know what these following stats mean but don't understand how all my numbers are so bad if I'm getting it in this good all the time.
Avg All-in Equity = 63.13
Avg PF All-in Equity = 62.57
Avg F All-in Equity = 65.00
Avg T All-in Equity = 59.00

Thanks for any help and if there's any other stats I should add here let me know.
10-19-2016 , 05:00 PM
My guess is that you're losing value by shoving when you should be betting a fraction of the pot.
10-19-2016 , 05:29 PM
I really don't think that's true because I don't play like that.
10-19-2016 , 05:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Finkle
So I'm looking at my HUD and feel like I run pretty terrible. I'm just not too sure what all these stats mean.

My C-Won right now is -$565.15 My C-All-in Adj is -$292.49.
My BB/100 is -12.60. My All-in Adj BB/100 is -6.52



I know what these following stats mean but don't understand how all my numbers are so bad if I'm getting it in this good all the time.
Avg All-in Equity = 63.13
Avg PF All-in Equity = 62.57
Avg F All-in Equity = 65.00
Avg T All-in Equity = 59.00


Thanks for any help and if there's any other stats I should add here let me know.
Red stuff = pointless.

ADJ value is adjusted, it takes into consideration all-in EV. If you need additional explanation then ask.

You are running below expectation as a function of all-in EV.
10-19-2016 , 05:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brokenstars
Red stuff = pointless.

ADJ value is adjusted, it takes into consideration all-in EV. If you need additional explanation then ask.

You are running below expectation as a function of all-in EV.
Thanks I was looking for the EV stat but couldn't find it. Is EV stat the same as BB/100?

Also the stats seem to indicate I'm running well below EV but still would be a loser if I was running at EV. Althought there are people who run above EV so that can offset things too. This is at 9000 hands at 50NL
10-19-2016 , 07:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Finkle
Thanks I was looking for the EV stat but couldn't find it. Is EV stat the same as BB/100?

Also the stats seem to indicate I'm running well below EV but still would be a loser if I was running at EV. Althought there are people who run above EV so that can offset things too. This is at 9000 hands at 50NL
Move down stakes. You're clearly relatively new, so just start at 5nl or something. If you have the money to spend and are interested in getting good, drop like $200-300 on a few coaching sessions after you've spent some time digesting a lot of the basic stuff and you'll catch up pretty quick. For now I'd recommend spending a decent amount of time strolling through the forums and watching some videos. Stuff like preflop opening ranges, basic theory, c-bet strategies and defense frequencies should be your focus right now. Runitonce subscription is only $10 and will give you loads of info that will be overwhelming atm, but should digest pretty quickly I'd imagine. Someone who can type grammatically correct sentences online is usually pretty intelligent.

EV is estimated value. So for instance if you get it in with AA vs KK at 100bb effective stacks PREFLOP and you win (100bb profit); your green line shoots up 100bb and ur bb/100 for that one hand is 100bb/1 hand or 10000bb/100. You're only expected to win a % of the time though, say 80%. So your EV (yellow line) would only go up 80bb. This is where your adj bb/100 and bb/100 differ.
10-19-2016 , 10:11 PM
No I'm not new at all. You've got the wrong idea. My stats on another site (same site, different skin) are total opposites of these. 10.5 BB/100 and 14.5 Adj BB/100

I just don't mess around with HUDs much. What you're talking is HUD talk, not poker strategy or opening rangers. I don't need to rely on a HUD I just like to see the graphs and see how below EV I'm running. I understand that basic stuff I don't really concern myself with it because I know I play a solid game and outplay my opponents regularly.

I run into so much bad luck and wanted to see if I could get the stats to laugh at.
10-19-2016 , 11:34 PM
Well okay then
10-20-2016 , 03:48 AM
I really do appreciate your help but I'm just saying. I don't need help with those things you think I do. I needed help with understanding some HUD terms and what they meant. Basically with all the bad luck I've had I should really be down just 5 buyins IF THAT. I don't see that as a major concern I can win that in 1 day.

I've just been getting lots of bad luck especially this week I lost 3 buyins alone when I got in stacks on the turn as 70% favorite and lost all 3. 1 time as a 56% favorite on the flop with AA vs flush draw. Another as a 36% favorite on the turn with a straight flush draw. And I lost every one of those situations.

That was in 1 session. Then I lose a stack when a guy 5 bet shoves against my with ATo and cracks my AA for a stack turning a straight. Ibet lose $30 to a shortstacker when I flop tptk and he flops a set. He raises flop and then shoves $20 into $21 on turn with a 4s 9s Jd 3h board. After I iso'd preflop and he cold called out of SB. Fishy player so I thought the call was fine but knowing now I probably wouldn't call him again.

Another hand against this player blind vs blind very dry board J7 vs A7 we both turn trips and I lose $35 to him because I raised him on river expecting him to call with worse blind vs blind. Unlucky.

So those are just 2 sessions and those are just the hands I remember. Lots of bad luck. If some of those hands go differently I'd be in the black.
10-20-2016 , 07:23 AM
You're 5 buy ins under EV in 9k hands. Please google variance calculator (website is like pokerdope.com) and play around with it.


The equivalent is like flipping a quarter 3x in a row. It's really not that rare.
10-20-2016 , 07:48 AM
I've never been a stats player either but I think that focusing on luck is a waste of time. Accept the things you cannot change and change the things you can.
10-20-2016 , 10:44 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Finkle
I lost 3 buyins alone when I got in stacks on the turn as 70% favorite and lost all 3. 1 time as a 56% favorite on the flop with AA vs flush draw. Another as a 36% favorite on the turn with a straight flush draw. And I lost every one of those situations.
One of those things is not like the other..

Quote:
Originally Posted by Finkle
I just don't mess around with HUDs much. What you're talking is HUD talk, not poker strategy or opening rangers. I don't need to rely on a HUD
1) "HUD talk" and poker strategy are not mutually exclusive. Done properly, they inform each other. ie; I use my HUD to determine my opening ranges.
2) While you may be turning your nose up at HUDs for some weird reason, the regs you are playing against are not. So you are willingly giving them an advantage over you. It's like a baseball player who doesn't want to hear any of the statistics about the players he's facing. He's just going to rely on his 95MPH fastball straight down the middle on every pitch.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Finkle
Another hand against this player blind vs blind very dry board J7 vs A7 we both turn trips and I lose $35 to him because I raised him on river expecting him to call with worse blind vs blind. Unlucky.
Probably not.

Post hand histories.

Given the way you've argued against every piece of advice in this thread, I don't have a lot of hope for you but posting actual hands would be a big step forward. Right now, you sound like a fish who was on a heater and has regressed to the mean. 9000 hands isn't even a week-end for the 50NL regs you're playing against.
10-20-2016 , 12:52 PM
obvious troll haha love it
10-22-2016 , 01:54 AM
More BS I run so below EV its insane. Lost earlier rivered nut flush vs rivered quads.

#Game No : 478837077
***** WSOP.com Hand History for Game 478837077 *****
$0.25/$0.50 Blinds No Limit Holdem - ***
Table South Harrison Township 6 Max (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: archegos ( $80.87 )
Seat 2: NoLimit ( $50.62 )
Seat 4: Briziz ( $25.78 )
Seat 6: chrisnice ( $88.81 )
Seat 7: TYdonkman1 ( $63.04 )
Seat 9: LastKing ( $54.04 )
chrisnice posts small blind [$0.25]
TYdonkman1 posts big blind [$0.50]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to NoLimit [ Qc, 9h ]
LastKing folds
archegos folds
NoLimit raises [$1.50]
Briziz calls [$1.50]
chrisnice folds
TYdonkman1 folds
** Dealing flop ** [ Ad, 2h, 9s ]
NoLimit checks
Briziz bets [$2]
NoLimit calls [$2]
** Dealing turn ** [ Qh ]
NoLimit checks
Briziz bets [$5.50]
NoLimit raises [$47.12]
Briziz calls [$16.78]
** Dealing river ** [ Ac ]
** Summary **
NoLimit shows [ Qc, 9h ]
Briziz shows [ Ah, 5h ]
Briziz collected [ $49.56 ]
10-22-2016 , 04:20 AM
If not trolling, move down stakes.

If trolling, DIAF.
10-22-2016 , 04:37 AM
More and more BS. Like the 3rd hand I sit at the table. Amazing.

#Game No : 475306625
***** WSOP.com Hand History for Game 475306625 *****
$0.25/$0.50 Blinds No Limit Holdem - ***
Table South Brunswick Township 6 Max (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: NoLimit ( $50.44 )
Seat 2: JerzDon ( $22.76 )
Seat 4: fatzz ( $45.14 )
Seat 6: Woodfish888 ( $58.69 )
Seat 7: UnclePaddy ( $24.82 )
Seat 9: 04typesaspec ( $52.29 )
04typesaspec posts small blind [$0.25]
NoLimit posts big blind [$0.50]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to NoLimit [ Jc, Tc ]
JerzDon folds
fatzz folds
Woodfish888 folds
UnclePaddy folds
04typesaspec raises [$1.25]
NoLimit calls [$1]
** Dealing flop ** [ 9d, 6h, 7h ]
04typesaspec bets [$1.50]
NoLimit calls [$1.50]
** Dealing turn ** [ Kd ]
04typesaspec bets [$3]
NoLimit calls [$3]
** Dealing river ** [ 8h ]
04typesaspec bets [$46.29]
NoLimit calls [$44.44]
** Summary **
NoLimit shows [ Jc, Tc ]
04typesaspec shows [ Ah, 9h ]
04typesaspec collected [ $98.13 ]
10-22-2016 , 04:41 AM
and then just a couple hands later

#Game No : 475306655
***** WSOP.com Hand History for Game 475306655 *****
$0.25/$0.50 Blinds No Limit Holdem - ***
Table South Brunswick Township 6 Max (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: NoLimit ( $50 )
Seat 4: fatzz ( $41.69 )
Seat 6: Woodfish888 ( $59.36 )
Seat 7: UnclePaddy ( $26.21 )
Seat 9: 04typesaspec ( $99.28 )
UnclePaddy posts small blind [$0.25]
04typesaspec posts big blind [$0.50]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to NoLimit [ Kh, Qc ]
NoLimit raises [$1.50]
fatzz calls [$1.50]
Woodfish888 folds
UnclePaddy calls [$1.25]
04typesaspec calls [$1]
** Dealing flop ** [ Tc, Td, 8c ]
UnclePaddy checks
04typesaspec checks
NoLimit checks
fatzz checks
** Dealing turn ** [ Jc ]
UnclePaddy checks
04typesaspec bets [$2]
NoLimit calls [$2]
fatzz raises [$4]
UnclePaddy folds
04typesaspec calls [$2]
NoLimit calls [$2]
** Dealing river ** [ Ah ]
04typesaspec checks
NoLimit checks
fatzz bets [$13.50]
04typesaspec folds
NoLimit calls [$13.50]
** Summary **
fatzz shows [ 8s, 8d ]
NoLimit mucks [ Kh, Qc ]
fatzz collected [ $42.50 ]
10-22-2016 , 04:43 AM
LOL

Yeah, definitely move down until you learn how to play poker.
10-22-2016 , 05:04 AM
Another terrible cooler against an awful fish that has so many hands i beat.

#Game No : 475306783
***** WSOP.com Hand History for Game 475306783 *****
$0.25/$0.50 Blinds No Limit Holdem - ***
Table South Brunswick Township 6 Max (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: NoLimit ( $54.42 )
Seat 2: JerzDon ( $12.70 )
Seat 6: Woodfish888 ( $62.73 )
Seat 9: 04typesaspec ( $124.44 )
JerzDon posts small blind [$0.25]
Woodfish888 posts big blind [$0.50]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to NoLimit [ As, 8c ]
04typesaspec raises [$1.75]
NoLimit calls [$1.75]
JerzDon folds
Woodfish888 folds
** Dealing flop ** [ 6h, 3c, Ah ]
04typesaspec bets [$4.25]
NoLimit calls [$4.25]
** Dealing turn ** [ Ac ]
04typesaspec checks
NoLimit checks
** Dealing river ** [ 7d ]
04typesaspec bets [$118.44]
NoLimit calls [$48.42]
** Summary **
NoLimit shows [ As, 8c ]
04typesaspec shows [ 6c, 6s ]
04typesaspec collected [ $108.09 ]
10-22-2016 , 05:06 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by WereBeer
LOL

Yeah, definitely move down until you learn how to play poker.
LOL if you think I respect u for being some breakeven player making troll comments in the beginners poker forum.
10-22-2016 , 06:47 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Finkle
My BB/100 is -12.60. My All-in Adj BB/100 is -6.52
I don't know what the sample size is, but those numbers are saying that even if you ran "normally" in all in pots, you'd still be losing 6.5bb/100.
Judging from the hand histories (flat-calling an UTG open with A8o in MP wtf?) you're not good enough to be playing at 50NL.
10-22-2016 , 07:03 AM
Gotta lose that money. If it's WSOP poker client, it'll be easy for OP to reload his/her bankroll.
10-22-2016 , 07:03 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Finkle
LOL if you think I respect u for being some breakeven player making troll comments in the beginners poker forum.
You finally found a mirror
10-22-2016 , 07:42 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ArtyMcFly
I don't know what the sample size is, but those numbers are saying that even if you ran "normally" in all in pots, you'd still be losing 6.5bb/100.
Judging from the hand histories (flat-calling an UTG open with A8o in MP wtf?) you're not good enough to be playing at 50NL.
That is just one hand.....with a ridiculous runout. Definitely not a standard play for me and something I rarely ever do. This player was very bad so I wanted to play hands against them. I know you see this hand and say "No they aren't bad you're bad"...because the hand makes them look good but you didn't see all the other hands. It's easy to be "good" when you're hitting the nuts all the time.
10-22-2016 , 08:20 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Finkle
That is just one hand.....with a ridiculous runout. Definitely not a standard play for me and something I rarely ever do. This player was very bad so I wanted to play hands against them. I know you see this hand and say "No they aren't bad you're bad"...because the hand makes them look good but you didn't see all the other hands. It's easy to be "good" when you're hitting the nuts all the time.
Well genius if you wanted to play a hand with that person why not isolate and take initiative by three betting in position? Still wouldn't do it with A8o, but it's better than calling with ace rag while you still have more people behind you.

50 NL is going to eat you alive.
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