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03-10-2021 , 04:20 PM
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Comparing a 4 handed game vs. a 9 handed game. NL - Holdem
Does the range of technically appropriate playable hands change?
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03-10-2021 , 04:25 PM
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By a modest amount... maybe 1-2% in each position due to card removal effects.
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03-10-2021 , 05:12 PM
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Yeah aside from card removal, it's pretty much the same. Maybe add a few more hands per seat. So if you're 4-handed and first to act, you wouldn't have an EP range, you'd play your standard cutoff range and adjust from there once you have some basic reads.
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03-10-2021 , 06:43 PM
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I guess I would have thought fewer people, greater range. I mean, if you're playing four-handed, or even heads up, wouldn't KJo seem more playable?
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03-10-2021 , 07:05 PM
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I guess I would have thought fewer people, greater range. I mean, if you're playing four-handed, or even heads up, wouldn't KJo seem more playable?
Yes. Look at starting hand charts for 6 handed vs 9 handed, and you will see a much wider range for 6 handed. So this will certainly be true if you are only 4 handed.
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03-10-2021 , 08:06 PM
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You use the hands starting from the BTN then CO ...
So you drop UTG & MP ranges, which does make you play more hands overal, but from each position the range you play doesn't change that much.

In 6-max if you're UTG you would use the LJ range from full ring
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03-10-2021 , 11:43 PM
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A button open in a 3max game is strategically identical to a BTN open in a 9max game. There's two players ahead either way. The only difference, as Brokenstars mentioned, is a tiny bit of card removal from UTG-CO folding stuff.
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03-11-2021 , 12:31 PM
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A button open in a 3max game is strategically identical to a BTN open in a 9max game. There's two players ahead either way. The only difference, as Brokenstars mentioned, is a tiny bit of card removal from UTG-CO folding stuff.
Aside from the BTN, would that apply to the other positions as well? 6 handed? End of day, I'm wondering if one's range should change based on the size of the game. I tend to loosen up when playing with fewer players.
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03-11-2021 , 02:08 PM
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Aside from the BTN, would that apply to the other positions as well? 6 handed? End of day, I'm wondering if one's range should change based on the size of the game. I tend to loosen up when playing with fewer players.
Yes ofc. A CO open is a CO open. A HJ open is a HJ open.

The number of players left to act infront of you is what that really matters.
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