@chad, i tried the minbet minbet pot strategy for value :P. my other strategy is check-raise and "bluffing" all-in. Meh none of it seems to work :| People are so tight but i think i have to start taking advantage of it.
@ferno seems like top pair kind of hand. with 67 he would probably just call.

@ Fishtankz - As others have said, get the big bets in. Stick to your normal c-bet size on the flop, then plan your turn and river bets to get the rest of your stack in. I've only started doing this fairly recently and it is +++EV as you don't really get too many more folds, but when they call you are getting far more from them. The other consideration is that you make their bad play correct by giving them the odds they need to hit any draw they might have.

@chad - Your 5-bet isn't far from half of your stack, just shove in this instance

So you're that guy!

Playing some 5NL rush because I can't lose - $20 ring game ticket expiring soon.
Any winnings go straight into bankroll.
If I lose, well I lose it anyway!

So far put $16 in my BR in ~700 hands which can't be lost using the ticket
Been running good. Getting good hands and people keep shoving on me when I have them.

Full Tilt - $0.05 NL RUSH (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

SB: $4.12
BB: $4.83
UTG: $4.54
MP: $3.61
Hero (CO): $5.33
BTN: $1.90

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero has K K

fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.15, fold, SB calls $0.13, fold

Flop: ($0.35, 2 players) A K 8
SB checks, Hero bets $0.20, SB raises to $0.40, Hero raises to $1.25, SB raises to $3.97 and is all-in, Hero calls $2.72

Turn: ($8.29, 2 players) 4

River: ($8.29, 2 players) A



No reason not to take my ticket to 10NL soon - or even 25NL short closer to expory.

Hmm, flopped KKK, had to lay it down...
He's always got a J here right?

Full Tilt - $0.05 NL RUSH (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (MP): $5.29
CO: $4.86
BTN: $2.00
SB: $3.04
BB: $3.67
UTG: $0.87

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero has K K

fold, Hero raises to $0.15, fold, fold, SB calls $0.13, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.45, 3 players) K T Q
SB bets $0.05, BB calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.50, SB calls $0.45, BB calls $0.45

Turn: ($1.95, 3 players) 9
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $1.10, fold, BB calls $1.10

River: ($4.15, 2 players) 2
BB bets $1.92 and is all-in, fold

Would have just shut down on the turn tbh and got a free look at river card.

Never folding with those odds

Is this potential board for third barrel? No info on villain. I am afraid of Kx on these kind of boards, but there are 2 flush draws and straight draw possibility.

Hey guys, i have a question.

what is the most profitable way to play 88 - 99 - TT in the micros.

lets say following happens, you are SB
CO raises 3BB, BTN calls
villains are both weak fish

SB ??

i always get myself into alot of trouble by 3betting because of the big chance of overcards, and calling seems kinda weak since you only play for set value.

suggentions ?

@Fishtanx - no, not good for 3 barrell, esp if villain isn't the type to fold TP

@Ferno - I'd still normally squeeze v 2 fish, but it really does depend on what u know of them too, ie will they fold flop if they miss, will they call down 3rdP etc. Nothing to say u can't bet/fold flop if it's not good for u

@Ferno

• Pre - Call unless they have high fold to 3b stats.
• Flop - Set: I'll lead out for half the pot. If called I'll then try to get stacks in by the river.
  - 1 overcard: check / call 1 bettor, if there's a bet and a call I'm folding. If the turn is then an under I'll lead out and shut down if called or raised. Another over on the turn will also lead to me shutting down.
  - 2 overcards: Try to check it down, but I'm not putting more money in the pot

I don't do this 100% of the time, but its my standard line. Obviously its exploitable by thinkers, but I'm losing less money that way than I used to when I over played these hands.

Does anyone think I'm making a bad mistake with this?

@Fishtanx - As Dunna said, check behind.

I checked, he showed Q 9 for one pair.
tough luck i guess, ace high could be good there if he was on a draw.

Make more sense for you to bet if you didn't block all the flush draws but given you have ATss he can't have that many combos of FDs.

I think that's a bit too results oriented. A bet here is only going to be called by better hands and I don't think that enough worse hands are calling to make it +EV. Maybe if the river had been Queen (although in this hand that would obviously have been called by villain ). It does seem pretty marginal though so don't sweat it too much.

My shot at 4NL is going OK so far. Another short session tonight. 102 hands for gain of 72bb.

I think this hand was spew. Villain was 28.6/7.1/0.3 over 14 hands. I've lost quite a bit with AK over the last few weeks in similar situations against 3 betting nits and I think that a 4 bet AI here shows the same strength. I've stoved it with villain on a range of QQ+/AK. I'm calling pre needing 59.5% equity, but against that range I only have 38.8. Opinions?




In this hand I now think I should have cbet the flop. MP1 is 29/0/0.3 over 62 hands and MP2 is 50/30/2.5 over 10 hands.




I've played with this villain a bit at 2NL and hes was at both my tables at 4NL tonight. He is 20/11/2 over 325 hands. I'm around 19/16/3.4 so he probably sees me as TAG if he's paying attention. The river c/r is scary but I'm getting nearly 5/1. Should I call this?




This hand is against the same villain from the last one. I'm fine with calling the 3 bet pre in position so I can see what the flop brings. When I hit TPTK and he checks I bet with the intention of check/fold a blank on the turn or getting it in if a comes. I've included it because of his chat afterwards.



After the hand I commented 'lol, damn rake!' to which he replied "Its your own fault, we didn't have to play for everything". And you know what, he's right (not that I regret the play).

FirstOut:
H1: I dunno, some people AK is a definite AIPF. Not me. Any pair you're slightly behind, so only ahead of AQ, I'd fold to a shove I think.
H2: Hard to bet that multiway with 66.
H3: Is that your standard flop cbet size? I go 3/4 (or 70% as full tilt has it). His line is stupid anyway - check / call, donk / call, check / raise is nonsense and I'd call every time (probably).
H4: Shove the turn wouldn't be my thing, but he was brave to call I think. Don't like the shove - don't think worse will call often enough.

^No point in raise/folding AK, just call then..
99 - more on flop, almost no way he shoves worse than a flush here.. Just go ahead n try to name some hands he does this wit that u beat.. Most of which u beat will simply ch/call or ch/fold river..
Also what is ur target with ur river bet size? What are you targetting that he will call with (which is obv a worse hand).. Lets say its TT type as 2pair+ will shove turn, u think he will call such a large bet on this river? then WTF is ur target? Are u even caring about his hand?.. Cuz if his hands r TTtype/random one pair bull****/Flushdraws on turn then u should simply bet half pot on river n fold to a shove.. dont kno y u priced urself in here on this riv



oh n lol
PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): $29.31
SB: $5.35
BB: $10.00
UTG: $2.58
MP: $6.93
CO: $15.30

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has K 8

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.25, SB calls $0.20, BB calls $0.15

Flop: ($0.75, 3 players) 6 J Q
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($0.75, 3 players) A
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $1.00, SB calls $1.00, fold

River: ($2.75, 2 players) 2
SB checks, Hero bets $25.00, SB calls $4.10 and is all-in

Hero shows K 8 (Flush, Ace High) (Pre 66%, Flop 19%, Turn 34%)
SB shows 3 J (One Pair, Jacks) (Pre 34%, Flop 81%, Turn 66%)
Hero wins $10.46

Been playing ****ing abysmally lately. Set over set a few times, sure, but like 5 of the 8 BI I've dropped have been my fault. Going to take a break - I plan to play a few MTTs tomorrow and the day after, but after that I'm going to spend a couple of weeks revising for exams, and hopefully come back refreshed.

In other news I decided to play a short session 8-tabling Zoom 2NL and 5NL, auto-piloted for 1.2k hands and ended up 30bb/100. Easy.

Must have been tired when I wrote that - didn't see the flush had come in
Check behind river.
As played, fold to shove.

guy was ridiculous, 96/88 or something daft. Find people like him - build bankroll ! (running at 50bb/100 this month so far, lols)

How many hands u play lol like 10k

unfortunately not mate. I stopped zooming and have been very casual - just 2500 hands. Still! reg speed is ridiculously easy.

Stopped Zooming? How?

Was there a comedown? Did u just go cold turkey, or phase it out?

I can't get away from it. It's like flippin catnip!

H1: Note to self: In future just call. Unless it a huge 3b/4b AI, in which case fold. Especially seeing as AK is my losing-est hand by an absolute mile
H2: On reflection I'm happier with the check.
H3: My standard c-bet HU is between 1/2 & 2/3 pot unless I have a hand against a calling station then I'll go bigger. Up to the turn I think overcards will come along fairly frequently, and overpairs definitely. I also think quite a lot of those overpairs will call the river bet. I hadn't considered what I'd do if raised so I was left with a difficult decision due to pot odds. This situation actually reminded me of a post from the anthology list that i read earlier yesterday (http://archives1.twoplustwo.com/show...Number=6454057) because I'd brought this upon myself by not checking behind. Any villain showing up with a flush here has had his play made correct by my poor decision making and bet sizing on every street (although the turn was a miscalculation due to having to make a decision on my 2nd table at the time, it should been closer to $1).

Thanks for the comments guys.