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04-01-2013 , 10:12 PM
A reg where i play had pocket 10's bets $20, oop w a 400$ stack,2/5nl
He gets raised to $50,by villain w $400 stack also, he says i have to fold im getting 2.5 to 1 but i have 8 to 1 chance of hitting my tryps.( probably villain is very tight so he figured big pair QQ,KK,AA or AK)
I understand but what if he hits,isnt there a possibility that he gets the rest of
Villain's stack?

Ty
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04-01-2013 , 10:24 PM
^I am ignoring that on purpose, hope you figure out why that is.
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04-01-2013 , 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Frenchy11111
A reg where i play had pocket 10's bets $20, oop w a 400$ stack,2/5nl
He gets raised to $50,by villain w $400 stack also, he says i have to fold im getting 2.5 to 1 but i have 8 to 1 chance of hitting my tryps.( probably villain is very tight so he figured big pair QQ,KK,AA or AK)
I understand but what if he hits,isnt there a possibility that he gets the rest of
Villain's stack?
Don't listen to advice from fish.
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04-02-2013 , 06:49 AM
Im probably thinking too much short term, over a lifetime of play
Im calling a reraise oop,against a tight player probably (QQ,KK,AA,AK)here right?So u never call bad in order to try to catch?I have a tendency to gamble a little,i guess ill have to try to stop tht lol.Then if someone else had called the 50, still no good ? How many would i need to call?
Ty very much
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04-02-2013 , 09:23 AM
That's not at all what I said. What I said was don't listen to advise given to you by anyone at the table.
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04-02-2013 , 12:07 PM
Difference between stars.com and stars.fr?
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04-02-2013 , 12:17 PM
Ok , u meant the fish at the table .
Sorry to insist , so u wouldve called w/o proper odds?
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04-02-2013 , 12:37 PM
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Ok , u meant the fish at the table .
Sorry to insist , so u wouldve called w/o proper odds?
Depends on whether you will stack him when you hit or not.
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04-02-2013 , 01:13 PM
How long does it take for PMs to enable? I have been posting the past few days
I am looking to become a reputable trader but still can't do so.=\

Also, How will i know when they are?

Last edited by GaryDB; 04-02-2013 at 01:18 PM.
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04-02-2013 , 01:21 PM
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How long does it take for PMs to enable? I have been posting the past few days
I am looking to become a reputable trader but still can't do so.=\

Also, How will i know when they are?
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/fa...faq_disabledpm

Most accounts that want access to PMs right away are spammers. Some are scammers. These rules make it a little bit more difficult to create disposable accounts for these purposes (especially spambots).

If you fall into neither of these categories, then likely the reason you want PMs ASAP is to participate in transfers, staking, coaching, prop betting or some other transaction with people you don't know.

By making this post you have demonstrated that you are unaware of or ignore the standard practices, conventions and norms of online forums such as reading FAQs, lurking before posting and searching. This implies that you are ill prepared to do the necessary due diligence required to prevent being taken advantage of. Waiting some time before enabling PMs helps to prevent people from jumping right in, taking no precautions and being scammed.

Please reconsider engaging in any such transactions until you are more seasoned, knowledgeable and better able to practice safe Internet. Please carefully read all available FAQs and stickies related to whatever high risk activity you are attempting to engage in before proceeding.
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04-02-2013 , 01:25 PM
Not sure why everyone on here is so hostile but thanks for the response anyway
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04-02-2013 , 02:11 PM
^every other day the same question is asked so it is a bit annoying to answer. Especially if the answer can be found by a quick search.
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04-02-2013 , 02:27 PM
I realize that. I did search for the answers before posting here. My main question was "how will I know?". As there is nothing in the profile options that says anywhere or anything about it. Plus the navigation and searches for the site aren't the easiest for a new member and that's why I thought it would be ok for a "Official Dumb Question". Sorry for the pain or annoyance caused
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04-02-2013 , 02:44 PM
Hostile? Seriously?

I'm afraid you're in for a bad time on 2+2. And the Internet. And life.


"How will you know?" You'll know because you have access to PMs. I'm not sure how to answer that - There's no "Congratulations you've been here more than five minutes" banner, you don't get a phone call from Mat.



Last edited by Cry Me A River; 04-02-2013 at 03:39 PM. Reason: ... a word
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04-02-2013 , 03:08 PM
Thank you for further proving my point. Forums are a lot different then "life" imo but you can remove all these posts now if you would like. I received as much information as I could.
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04-02-2013 , 03:19 PM
I dont get it ,when people post to get help,and complain afterwards,its free advice,where can you get that .
Keep up the good work!!!!!
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04-02-2013 , 04:10 PM
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I dont get it ,when people post to get help,and complain afterwards,its free advice,where can you get that .
Keep up the good work!!!!!
I never complained . I commented on how hostile the response was said thanks for the response. And maybe you would understand if that message was directed at you how condescending it it reads.
Basically, "you are stupid for asking this question ( in a dumb questions thread) and should know everything about the site" " you are irresponsible, not knowledgeable, and should not be on the internet"."please come back when you have learned your lesson." Not to mention the sarcasm in the second response.
Great way to accept new comers with questions on a dumb question thread.
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04-02-2013 , 04:26 PM
Lol
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04-02-2013 , 05:02 PM
Yeah, you're right, it's us, not you.

And we certainly have no reason to raise eyebrows at someone who fully admits he joined a site just to engage in high risk cash transfers with strangers, doesn't follow the minimal rules and can't wait to bypass whatever small safeguards have been put into place!

Shame on us!
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04-03-2013 , 03:31 AM
Of course, this guy got scammed for $25 already due to not following the trading rules, so probably could have used CMAR's advice more than most.
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04-03-2013 , 10:14 AM
any books/vids/threads for plo tournies - wanna have a go at stt/hypers/turbos/hu mainly.....???
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04-03-2013 , 02:14 PM
OK, I have a stupid question.
Beware, I am a Noob with capital "n".

When were calculating pot odds, we are doing it to end up with higher income than expense, but if we are loosing when the pot is high, and winning when the pot is low, it's an overall loss. So the total pot in general is also a factor, but not a factor being taught.
Can anyone please justify still calculating pot odds for me or putting the factor in there?
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04-03-2013 , 02:40 PM
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Can anyone please justify still calculating pot odds for me or putting the factor in there?
So what you're saying is that the profitability of penny stocks doesn't matter because it's just pennies?

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it's an overall loss.
Every hand is, mathematically, a discrete event. We may be able to bring some knowledge (ie; reads on players) from previous hands but otherwise other hands are not relevant.
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04-03-2013 , 03:55 PM
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So what you're saying is that the profitability of penny stocks doesn't matter because it's just pennies?



Every hand is, mathematically, a discrete event. We may be able to bring some knowledge (ie; reads on players) from previous hands but otherwise other hands are not relevant.
Oh no!
all money matters. didn't mean it like that.
Example: We have 9 outs (assuming you are a pro and i don't need to show you the math )

Hand 1: The pot total is 10$, and 1,50$ to call. odds are in favour, we call and don't hit.

Hand 2: the pot total is 7$, and 1$ to call. odds in favour, we call, we miss.

Hand 3: The pot total is 15$ and 2$ to call. odds in favour, we call, we miss.

Hand 4: the pot total is 25$ and 4$ to call. odds in favour, we call we miss.

Hand 5: The pot total is 4$ and 50c to call. odds in favour, we call, we hit and we won!!

We won 1 out of 5 like the odds said but when we won, it was 4$, but we lost altogether 8.50$.

This is what I mean about how the pot total counts for something in calculating pot odds.

I hope this makes sense.

Last edited by sniggel; 04-03-2013 at 04:08 PM. Reason: forgot to add hand no 1
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04-03-2013 , 04:33 PM
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I hope this makes sense.
No, it really doesn't unless you're psychic and can predict the future.

Making the correct decision and then sometimes losing anyway is why it's called "gambling".

See also;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambler%27s_fallacy



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