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06-17-2013 , 11:19 AM
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06-17-2013 , 01:36 PM
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cash out?
concierge service.. request hookers and blow?
buy cash out, do you mean buying the 1100 euro bonus for 93500 fpps? it seems to me that this better value than buying tournament tickets (i.e. less FPPs/per dollar).

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06-18-2013 , 03:05 PM
I need a good definition of "realize the equity"
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06-18-2013 , 03:59 PM
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I need a good definition of "realize the equity"
I'll give it a try. Your equity is the pot size multiplied with your winning percentage assuming no further betting. Your expected value is your average payout. In contrast to equity, EV depends on the strategies of all players involved. Sometimes you have equity, say, with a draw, but your EV is 0 since your opponent will bet so much that you have to fold. In this case you have failed to realize your equity. You do realize it if you turn your equity into expected value, for example by semibluffing all-in.

I'm not sure that this is a good definition, but maybe this gives you some idea.
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06-18-2013 , 04:44 PM
Hands and hands abbreviated, difference?
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06-19-2013 , 12:24 AM
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I need a good definition of "realize the equity"
Can’t really define it as such, it’s more like a concept. Here’s a different way of saying the same thing Cangurino was getting at.

If you plug some hand, say pocket deuces, versus some range into an equity calculator, it will show you have a certain amount of equity. But that calculation is based on going all the way to showdown. If you sensibly fold when there is no 2 on the flop, you are giving up on those times when you would have had a winning hand by getting a 2 on the turn or river or both. You have failed to realize your equity.
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06-19-2013 , 07:07 AM
What is the action when someone donks the flop, then leads the turn called?

I would assume a Turn donk is when they x/c the flop and lead turn, and turn cbet is when they cbet the flop and cbet the turn.

Also, what is this stat called in HM2?
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06-19-2013 , 07:25 AM
I would call it a turn cbet, but I'm not sure about HM2.
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06-19-2013 , 08:19 AM
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I would call it a turn cbet, but I'm not sure about HM2.
Thanks, but I don't think its turn cbet, because that would definitely include flop cbet/turn cbet line which would skew the stat that I'm looking for.
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06-19-2013 , 03:01 PM
Hey guys, I have another question with regards to pot odds. On most sites when I player bets the money isn't automatically put into the pot i.e. if the pot is 20 dollars and someone bets 5 dollars the amount the site shows in the pot is still 20 dollars and not 25 dollars? In such a case your pot odds would be 5:1 though?

However on this site I am currently playing at a little bit, they add what the player bets to the pot. Ie if the pot is 700 and a player bets 300 then the site makes the pot 1000. I think that if I calculated pot odds here it would be 1000:300 which = 3.3:1 however I just want to make sure this is the case or whether we must go 1000+300/300?
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06-19-2013 , 04:15 PM
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On most sites when I player bets the money isn't automatically put into the pot i.e. if the pot is 20 dollars and someone bets 5 dollars the amount the site shows in the pot is still 20 dollars and not 25 dollars?
I have had accounts on over 40 sites and I have never seen this. Are you sure you're looking at the right number?


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06-19-2013 , 05:25 PM
Just out of curiousity why so many sites CMAR? Which ones do you prefer? I'm guessing pokerstars but other than that?
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06-19-2013 , 07:51 PM
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Just out of curiousity why so many sites CMAR? Which ones do you prefer? I'm guessing pokerstars but other than that?
I've been playing online for almost 10 years. Bonus whoring used to be a significant part of the game.
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06-20-2013 , 07:07 AM
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I'll give it a try. Your equity is the pot size multiplied with your winning percentage assuming no further betting. Your expected value is your average payout. In contrast to equity, EV depends on the strategies of all players involved. Sometimes you have equity, say, with a draw, but your EV is 0 since your opponent will bet so much that you have to fold. In this case you have failed to realize your equity. You do realize it if you turn your equity into expected value, for example by semibluffing all-in.

I'm not sure that this is a good definition, but maybe this gives you some idea.

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Can’t really define it as such, it’s more like a concept. Here’s a different way of saying the same thing Cangurino was getting at.

If you plug some hand, say pocket deuces, versus some range into an equity calculator, it will show you have a certain amount of equity. But that calculation is based on going all the way to showdown. If you sensibly fold when there is no 2 on the flop, you are giving up on those times when you would have had a winning hand by getting a 2 on the turn or river or both. You have failed to realize your equity.
Ty guys, basically realize our equity means that we win our share of the pot.
For instace, if the pot is 100$ and we have 25% equity, 25% of the pot belongs to us, so if we check all streets we will win a quarter of the time and so our fair share of the pot. If Villain bets and we fold, we give up that 25%...
right?
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06-20-2013 , 07:35 AM
Right.
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06-20-2013 , 02:40 PM
I'm confused if you can play for real money online. I live in US and everyone I talk to has a different answer and they aren't really that sure. Right now I've been reading a lot and want to know if it is worth my time. Can I play on pokerstars or fulltilt, really anywhere for real money??
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06-20-2013 , 03:15 PM
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I'm confused if you can play for real money online. I live in US and everyone I talk to has a different answer and they aren't really that sure. Right now I've been reading a lot and want to know if it is worth my time. Can I play on pokerstars or fulltilt, really anywhere for real money??
You would probably get more responses if your answer couldn't be found in a matter of minutes by just actually looking around online.

There are sites that allow US players and payout fast and reliably. Check out the "where can US players play" thread in the internet poker forum for details specific to your location.
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06-20-2013 , 03:18 PM
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You would probably get more responses if your answer couldn't be found in a matter of minutes by just actually looking around online.

There are sites that allow US players and payout fast and reliably. Check out the "where can US players play" thread in the internet poker forum for details specific to your location.
Thank you for the advice. This is the first site I've looked on so I thought I'd throw the question out there since it says dumb questions
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06-20-2013 , 05:27 PM
hello can someone help me? im posting in this tread not sure if it's the right place but i would like to know if having a £1000 bankroll enough to play live cash games at my local casino? the levels are under this.

Bankroll for poker only £1,000

£1/£1 blinds with £25 min £100 max [or whatever the big stack is]

I would like to earn a living from this so i wont your advice, i have 7 months living costs away from poker stored.

So any idea's from people who play cash on how many buy ins i need to be safe or if this is enough or i need more etc? and is it better to sit with £25 or buy in more? is it enough to ride the crazy verience swings?
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06-20-2013 , 06:59 PM
So you are delt pocket 10s in the small blind and the CO raises 3x button folds, action is on you what do you do preflop?

(CO has 99 but also plays hands like Q,K from this position)

What about postflop?

Assume flop hits his range (QQ6)

I had this hand a couple times and had QK flat a c-bet

What about 3 overs on the flop?

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06-21-2013 , 08:38 AM
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Thanks! Are they charging for it or did they go "out of business" assuming they were a business?
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06-21-2013 , 08:50 AM
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So you are delt pocket 10s in the small blind and the CO raises 3x button folds, action is on you what do you do preflop?
It depends on villains tendency but probably raise or call most of the time... But if this guy only plays JJ and better you should fold.

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(CO has 99 but also plays hands like Q,K from this position)
How would you know this in a hand? This information only biases me when trying to tell you what I think is the best strategy. Don't post hand results if asking for in-hand strategy.

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What about postflop?

Assume flop hits his range (QQ6)
What suit(s) are the board? That will affect the answer.

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I had this hand a couple times and had QK flat a c-bet
On what flop?
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What about 3 overs on the flop?
What suits?

3 overs would be tough to continue with ( depending on the players tendencies) because they would be all broadway and making straights or straight draws a problem. Of course that would mean you also have a str8 draw. The CO could be raising with a wide range here as co's do.
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06-21-2013 , 08:53 AM
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hello can someone help me? im posting in this tread not sure if it's the right place but i would like to know if having a £1000 bankroll enough to play live cash games at my local casino? the levels are under this.

Bankroll for poker only £1,000

£1/£1 blinds with £25 min £100 max [or whatever the big stack is]

I would like to earn a living from this so i wont your advice, i have 7 months living costs away from poker stored.

So any idea's from people who play cash on how many buy ins i need to be safe or if this is enough or i need more etc? and is it better to sit with £25 or buy in more? is it enough to ride the crazy verience swings?
The Kelly criterion is what u need
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06-21-2013 , 08:54 AM
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I would like to earn a living from this so i wont your advice,
So you're planning to be a professional player, but you're posting in a Begiiner forum asking about bankroll management? Don't you see the problem with that? It's like a surgeon asking which tool to use to cut...

Try this thread:

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06-21-2013 , 10:59 AM
why are the WSOP final table guys most under 30 the last few years? Doesn't years of experience help middle aged guys? it doesn't make much sense, or what am I missing? i guess 10,000 hands a month online poker from age 16 to 21 builds more experience and skill? wsop from back in 2003-2006 videos, see they're all older... nowadays you see punky college 21 year old guys in wsop shoving with Q4s type aggro wild hands... what's up with that?
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