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06-09-2013 , 05:38 AM
I'm glad there's a thread for these:

I'm really, really excited about using PokerTracker although right now between initial deposits and subscriptions like duecescracked, I'm a little thin on money for a couple of weeks. Is there anything like PT that's free and I could use on BCP until I can buy PT4?

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06-09-2013 , 05:40 AM
I think that PT4 has a free trial period. The free alternative is "Free poker database" (google that), but I'm not sure it works on your site.
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06-09-2013 , 05:50 AM
I'm new here and my question is.. Why don't my friends invite me to their home games? I have to travel 3 1/2 hours to find a poker table that will accept me and even there I've noticed people that seen me before switch to another when I sit down.
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06-09-2013 , 06:01 AM
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I think that PT4 has a free trial period. The free alternative is "Free poker database" (google that), but I'm not sure it works on your site.
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06-09-2013 , 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by udkWILL
I'm new here and my question is.. Why don't my friends invite me to their home games? I have to travel 3 1/2 hours to find a poker table that will accept me and even there I've noticed people that seen me before switch to another when I sit down.
My guess would be that they don't enjoy playing with you. Now why that is, and how you can change this, I can't answer, but maybe you can.
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06-09-2013 , 06:46 AM
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My guess would be that they don't enjoy playing with you. Now why that is, and how you can change this, I can't answer, but maybe you can.
I'm guessing fear.. I played in my friends house few times before they started avoiding me and I admit, they noobs, they only mock what they see on TV but have no reasoning behind their moves. But at a casino you running away? When you're supposedly a "grinder", maybe is just my way of thinking, that in order to be the best, you have to wanna play the best.
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06-09-2013 , 07:29 AM
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When you're supposedly a "grinder", maybe is just my way of thinking, that in order to be the best, you have to wanna play the best.
Yes, that's very true.
But don't forget: what is your goal?
Do you wana be the best or do you wana make money?
Generally in each and every way I'd agree. Go play against the top at ther game and you'll crush anything below.

But if I get to choose between a full stacked table where I can hardly profit or a table full of idiots where I'd end up with all the money all day every day?

However to get back to the original question: been there as well, we used to play a weekly homegame. People wouldn't just invite me anymore because one way or a other I'd end up with all the money. And not that I played good! No I didn't even botter trying but my cgame still beats ther therable a-game. And people start liking playing with me for that reason.
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06-09-2013 , 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by udkWILL
I'm guessing fear.. I played in my friends house few times before they started avoiding me and I admit, they noobs, they only mock what they see on TV but have no reasoning behind their moves. But at a casino you running away? When you're supposedly a "grinder", maybe is just my way of thinking, that in order to be the best, you have to wanna play the best.
BBV is a great place for veiled brags.

Why is it that people stutter, sweat, and tremble to their knees when I am around?

Spoil:
Cause I am the ****!
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06-09-2013 , 04:46 PM
What is a reverse blocker bet?
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06-09-2013 , 09:27 PM
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What is a reverse blocker bet?
I guess it's something blocker-sized with a nutted hand, trying to induce a raise.
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06-10-2013 , 11:49 AM
My first post \o/


Ok, a Poker Tracker 4 question.

I make bad C-Bets and want to filter all the hands in a session where I've made a C-Bet to review each on and hopefully learn not to be so bad, how do I do this?

Currently the way I'm doing it it in the Results tab with the Hero vs Villian report with a quick filter set up for showing just Bet Flop C-Bet hands and then highlighting all the villians in the top section to then display all hands in the bottom section.
But I have a problem with this method since, using all the same filters, my method only displays 65 C-Bet hands but the My Reports section shows 82.

is there a better/easier way to do this?
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06-10-2013 , 03:57 PM
Not sure how to play J-rag, Q-rag, K-rag, A-rag at micros? I play NL2 now but planning to move NL5 as soon as possible.

Anyways. Right now I fold most of the J/Q/K-rags and use this strategy with A-rags:

1. Fold if pot is raised before me
2. Raise (3xBB) if pot is unraised before me (But I fold UTG and EP, even with A10)

I have two questions:

1. Should this strategy apply to K-rags and Q-rags? I guess J-rags arent worth playing but you tell me?

2. And is my strategy even correct? If no, how'd you recommend me to play?

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06-10-2013 , 04:22 PM
Depends on
- Exactly what "J-rag, Q-rag, K-rag, A-rag" means
- Your position
- Your image
- Table texture
- Who's behind you, particularly in the blinds
- If raised in front of you, how many callers and the size of the raise in relation to effective stack sizes
- Your relative skill post flop
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06-10-2013 , 05:02 PM
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Depends on
- Exactly what "J-rag, Q-rag, K-rag, A-rag" means
- Your position
- Your image
- Table texture
- Who's behind you, particularly in the blinds
- If raised in front of you, how many callers and the size of the raise in relation to effective stack sizes
- Your relative skill post flop

Talking about anything under J10, Q10, K10 and A10 both offsuit and suited. And yea I guess it depends, i never play them EP tbh. Thanks for the answer though, it does help me figure some things out and take my thinking one step further.
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06-10-2013 , 10:59 PM
Are there any successful online NLH players that *don't* using any type of software, e.g. HUDs, scripts, etc? Or is it a *must* that top players have them?

Is it a serious disadvantage for anyone wanting to play seriously (and be a winner) online to *not* have these software? If yes, could such disadvantage be overcome or hopeless?
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06-10-2013 , 11:57 PM
Is it possible to be a carpenter and never use a hammer?
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06-11-2013 , 12:07 AM
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Are there any successful online NLH players that *don't* using any type of software, e.g. HUDs, scripts, etc? Or is it a *must* that top players have them?

Is it a serious disadvantage for anyone wanting to play seriously (and be a winner) online to *not* have these software? If yes, could such disadvantage be overcome or hopeless?
I was actually wondering if a player who's learning to play poker online would benefit from learning the game without the tracking software. It's not like you can bring it to the WSOP with you.

What also seems likely to me, though, is that a player would get used to spot recognizing certain situations and odds because the tracking software has made them aware of so much more going on at the tables.

Any thoughts?
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06-11-2013 , 04:26 AM
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Is it possible to be a carpenter and never use a hammer?
I guess another question is will these software ever get banned by the major sites? I think that scripts are banned in some, but what about HUDs...too much $$$ involved?
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06-11-2013 , 10:14 AM
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I guess another question is will these software ever get banned by the major sites? I think that scripts are banned in some, but what about HUDs...too much $$$ involved?
Will Microsoft back away from their controversial rights management policies on Xbox One now that Sony destroyed them at E3 or will they stick to their guns and rely on brand loyalty in order to push forward a new distribution model?
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06-11-2013 , 10:24 AM
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I guess another question is will these software ever get banned by the major sites? I think that scripts are banned in some, but what about HUDs...too much $$$ involved?
Why do you want them banned? Learn to use them.
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06-11-2013 , 12:14 PM
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I guess another question is will these software ever get banned by the major sites? I think that scripts are banned in some, but what about HUDs...too much $$$ involved?
There is a lot of software that is banned but most of those softwares interfere with the poker client in a way that is cheating, like bots that make the plays for you. All HUDs do is make it much more practical to multi-table since if you were playing any one of those tables on its own you'd get a good understanding of your opponents VPIP/PFR/AF anyway.

But the main reasons I think HUDs aren't banned is because - 1) There's too much money in multi-tabling players for online rooms to ban them, and 2) it'd be unenforceable because HUDs don't do anything to the client, they just read read HH files from your hard drive and follow a Window around. To make a ban on HUDs workable you'd have to not allow players to save their hand histories.
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06-11-2013 , 12:33 PM
I don't really get the term of a donkbet. A lot of players see it as a weak or an unorthodox move, but lets say I call a raise OOP preflop with a hand like JQ and I flop a Queen pair, is it considered a donkbet when I bet into the aggressor? Or you just call it a donkbet when you don't get a good hand/hand at all and you're just trying to draw cards without even reading odds?
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06-11-2013 , 12:38 PM
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I don't really get the term of a donkbet. A lot of players see it as a weak or an unorthodox move, but lets say I call a raise OOP preflop with a hand like JQ and I flop a Queen pair, is it considered a donkbet when I bet into the aggressor? Or you just call it a donkbet when you don't get a good hand/hand at all and you're just trying to draw cards without even reading odds?
Anytime somebody leads into the preflop raiser from out of position it is called a donkbet. It is not inherently bad. The reason it is looked down upon is the following: 1) Many players play fit-or-fold on the flop, so one way to exploit them is to make frequent continuation bets. 2) Hence many players make frequent continuation bets, so a way to exploit them is to check to them often. So in your case with the flopped top pair you could check-raise or check-call instead of betting out, depending on the rest of your opponent's strategy. However, if he does not cbet frequently, donkbetting can be a good move.
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06-11-2013 , 12:43 PM
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is it considered a donkbet when I bet into the aggressor?
Yes.

It's called a donkbet because:

- It's very common for bad players to do this inappropriately.
- There's often a better play (ie; check-raising).
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06-11-2013 , 12:44 PM
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Anytime somebody leads into the preflop raiser from out of position it is called a donkbet. It is not inherently bad. The reason it is looked down upon is the following: 1) Many players play fit-or-fold on the flop, so one way to exploit them is to make frequent continuation bets. 2) Hence many players make frequent continuation bets, so a way to exploit them is to check to them often. So in your case with the flopped top pair you could check-raise or check-call instead of betting out, depending on the rest of your opponent's strategy. However, if he does not cbet frequently, donkbetting can be a good move.
Good post man. Clears up some things I'm wondering I guess it depends, just as always in poker. Against some villains a donkbet is better, and against some checkraising/checkcalling is better.

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Yes.

It's called a donkbet because:

- It's very common for bad players to do this inappropriately.
- There's often a better play (ie; check-raising).
So at NL5 I would rather be checkraising or checkcalling depending on hand/board, against someone who maybe likes to C-bet a lot
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