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09-30-2010 , 05:15 PM
Finally think I can post my graphs! Hope you can give me some advice. Thanks in advance.




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09-30-2010 , 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Chemicalweapons
Thanks for the reply fabadam,

UTG I'm opening 22+,ATs+,KQs,AQo+,KQo. You think I should open up KJ's and QJs also? Your right post flop I give up to easy when I miss the flop.
That is a 10% PFR range actually, so probably you just ran card dead UTG in this sample. Just goes to show that even 11k hands (so nearly 2k hands UTG!) still is off significantly due to variance.

Your range is quite reasonable for UTG. If you add something, make it 65s+ rather than dominated hands like KJs. This gives you more opportunity for surprise hits on 872 and similar boards.
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09-30-2010 , 06:46 PM
jtjohns: The graph you posted is absolutely meaningless except that it shows you have a lot of swings. COuld be coincidence, but more probably indicates tilt sensitivity on your part. If that is the case you know it and don't need a graph to tell you.

The stats overview you give is very small -- it's just a few stats. Preflop range is TAG, probably limping a bit too much but not overly so. Postflop slightly too passive, which seems to get exploited at NL25 mostly for some reason.
You seem a small but consistent loser at NL25 here (though from your graph, it may well just have been a wild ride -- which indicates tilty sessions ...), can't say why that is from this.
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09-30-2010 , 11:20 PM
What stats would be more helpful? I'll get them posted asap. I have to figure out what the heck is going on. As far as limping, I never, NEVER, open limp, but do limp behind in position with small pp and small suited Ax in position.

Just let me know what would be beneficial to see and I'll post it.

Thanks thus far.
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10-01-2010 , 02:54 AM
jtjohns: have a look at your "By Position" stats in HEM. Your VPIP/PFR should get steadily higher as you get nearer the button.
Also important are postflop stats, such as aggression by street and continuation bet stats.
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10-01-2010 , 07:57 AM
thanks, I believe my stats are ok but ill post them up because obviuosly something is wrong with my game.
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10-02-2010 , 07:59 PM
Hi,

Right now I am recustomizing my HUD for 6-max micro stakes and I am not quite sure about some of the stats’ scale. Can please, somebody check it and share with those I don’t have?

StathhhLoose/AggressivehhhOptimalhhhTight/Passive

VPIPhhhhhhh>24hhhhhhhhhh24-18 hhhhhhhhh<18
PRhhhhhhhhh>21hhhhhhhhhh21-15hhhhhhhhhh<15
Agg pcthhhh>35hhhhhhhhhh35-25hhhhhhhhhh<25

3-bethhhhhhh>7hhhhhhhhhhh7-4hhhhhhhhhhhhh4<
Call 3-bethhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh?
Fold to 3-beth60>hhhhhhhhh75-60hhhhhhhhhh5<
4-bethhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh?

Stealhhhhhh>40hhhhhhhhhh40-30hhhhhhhhhh<30
Fold vs Stealhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh?
3-bet vs Stealhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh?

Flop c-bethhhh>80hhhhhhhhhh0-60hhhhhhhhhh<60
Fold to c-bethhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh?
Raise c-bethhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh?
Turn c-bethhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh?
Fold to turn c-bethhhhhhhhhhhhh?

Thx
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10-03-2010 , 06:24 AM
Sibural: the HEM tutorials in the program have some information on this. All your numbers look off to me, though I don't think you should give stats such absolute values anyway.

Some guesses:
VPIP: <15 nitty, 16-19 tight, 20-27 semi-loose, >28 loose
PFR: <12 passive, 13-24 optimal, >25 aggromonkey
3-bet: <3 nitty, 4-9 optimal, >10 aggromonkey
steal: <30 nitty, 30-45 optimal, >45 aggro
flop c-bet: <55 nitty, 60-80 optimal, >80 aggro
fold to cbet: >60 exploitable nit, 45-60 optimal, <45 station/monkey

I still see it as more important to understand WHY stats should be within a certain range (e.g. if you fold >60% of cbets, opponents can profitable cbet their entire range) than striving for specific values.
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10-05-2010 , 03:52 PM
Thank You very much!
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10-08-2010 , 12:37 AM
When logging tournament stats, do you list your GROSS or NET profit? If you list your gross, will it graph accordingly?

Hopefully the right forum...closest I found to the topic in question.
Thanks.
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10-09-2010 , 04:30 AM
bubs: for tournament stats, you log your net profit in the form of ROI (Return On Investment) generally. So if you played 100 $10+$1 tournament (cost = $1100) and won a total of $1250, you report net winnings of $150 or 13.6% ROI.
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10-09-2010 , 09:59 PM
Playing 25NL 1500 hands, comments welcome as i am a beginner

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10-10-2010 , 03:18 AM
Unsoived: Nice hot run. You are aware you need to supply information to get comments?
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10-10-2010 , 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Uns0Ived
Playing 25NL 1500 hands, comments welcome as i am a beginner

Not sure why you've hidden your winnings because we can see your stakes, bb/100 and number of hands so it's easily worked out!!

Nice heater though, but what's the question?!
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10-10-2010 , 01:07 PM
ok lads thanks for the comments , like i said i am a beginner so not sure what i should be taking a snapshot of??
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10-10-2010 , 01:48 PM
Help me all advices are very appricieted
nl4 6max



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10-10-2010 , 06:58 PM
Mrrcina: for 6-max that is ridiculously tight. You also seem too passive postflop, clearly folding way too much too (62% W$SD is too high)
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10-11-2010 , 02:11 PM
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Mrrcina: for 6-max that is ridiculously tight.

Whats the problem w/being too tight in such fishy games?





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You also seem too passive postflop, clearly folding way too much too (62% W$SD is too high)
Is this not Won$@ShowDown?

If it is, thats really good is it not?
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10-11-2010 , 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Michael.T
Whats the problem w/being too tight in such fishy games?







Is this not Won$@ShowDown?

If it is, thats really good is it not?
In fishy games, it is a winning strategy to play very tight. However, playing VPIP/PFR of 11/8 means you are folding a huge amount of +EV hands (AJ, AT, KQ, etc). So you are throwing away a lot of easy +EV situations. It's OK to fold marginal situations, but if you want to develop, you have to extend your reach.

As for a high Won$Showdown: if it is very high, it means you are folding many situations where you FEAR you are losing -- in most situations (for example, facing a $3 bet into a $5 pot) you should be calling with way less than 50% chance to win.
Most good winning players have a W$SD% that is close to 50% -- if it's much lower you are a bluff-monkey or calling station. If it's much higher, you are a weak-tight nit.

To summarize: having a W$SD of 100% is really good only if you are a super-user who can see opponents cards. In all other cases, you can only get so high by folding lots of winning hands along with the losers.
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10-11-2010 , 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by fabadam
In fishy games, it is a winning strategy to play very tight. However, playing VPIP/PFR of 11/8 means you are folding a huge amount of +EV hands (AJ, AT, KQ, etc). So you are throwing away a lot of easy +EV situations. It's OK to fold marginal situations, but if you want to develop, you have to extend your reach.

As for a high Won$Showdown: if it is very high, it means you are folding many situations where you FEAR you are losing -- in most situations (for example, facing a $3 bet into a $5 pot) you should be calling with way less than 50% chance to win.
Most good winning players have a W$SD% that is close to 50% -- if it's much lower you are a bluff-monkey or calling station. If it's much higher, you are a weak-tight nit.

To summarize: having a W$SD of 100% is really good only if you are a super-user who can see opponents cards. In all other cases, you can only get so high by folding lots of winning hands along with the losers.
Ah

thanks pal
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10-12-2010 , 12:02 AM
I play A LOT of nl5 and nl10, and lately even nl2 =/. Both 6max and full ring. I have usually been a small winner.. but barely. I am running $70 dollars under All In EV for last 50k hands. I follow very strict BRM and play very TAG, but I know I have A LOT of leaks and would like some help here! Thanks.



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10-12-2010 , 02:02 AM
nkstn: Your overall look fairly OK, overall maybe a bit too much on the nitty/weak-tight side. For 6-max it looks you are a bit too tight preflop (18/16 is about the bottom of the tight range rather than your 16/14). Also, you can steal much more from CO and SB, your button steal% is OK.
You should also start defending the blinds against habitual stealers: you are folding to steals so much it is profitable to steal with any 2 cards against you (if I'd play against you to your right I would open-raise 100% of the SB folded to me).
Look out for opponents who have steal percentages of 40% or higher and just start 3-betting from the blinds agiainst them with a wider range (something like 88+,AT+,KQ, KJ,QJ,JT).
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10-12-2010 , 06:40 AM
Long time lurker, first time poster

What about these graph en stats? Where can I improve? It's all 10NL Full Ring RUSH-poker





Thanx!!!
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10-12-2010 , 07:26 AM
vmulder: Nice graph, very few swings. Your stats seem generally OK, but I don't really know Fullring, nor Rush. I don't see obvious leaks, though your FoldBBtoSteal is VERY high, which I can understand in Rush if you know very little about opponents.
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10-14-2010 , 12:37 AM
Ok I have a few questions. I started a thread in the poker goals and challenges section (12.00 to 3K by december 31st) and today I was told that Im really not that good im just running really good. I would say that im running ok but nothing out of what I consider to be normal. Every one has ups and downs, bad beats, suck outs and gets sucked out on. I guess he was refering to my greenline being so much higher then my yellow. How does PT3 figure that yellow line? What does it mean? I know its the ev line but im not even sure what that means exactly.
Also from looking at my red and blue lines what am I doing wrong. Am I not getting enough value out of my hands?


Also what do you recommend putting in your hud stats. steal%......

Last edited by cashshot697; 10-14-2010 at 12:39 AM. Reason: wrong graph
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