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01-23-2025 , 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by WCAssassin


I trust I'm posting this acceptably.

I play on a site free of huds, I have had a little microstakes coaching but not as much as I ought to. I recognize my results leave much to be desired. Some pointers on concepts I can look up and learn more about that I'd do well to look into would be good. Perhaps what resources as well if it's not something in MPT, POP, or some other popular resource I happen to have handy.
Go to your positional tab and post the statistics from that ribbon. The stats you posted aren't particularly helpful.

It would be useful to see the following:

Raise first in (RFI) by position
3-bet frequencies vs. RFI by position --> You can add in stats, "3-bet vs EP/MP/CO/BT RFI"

cold call % (CC%)

Some BB defense stats: BB vs SB 3bet, BB vs SB Fold, BB vs SB Call

BB 3-bet, Fold and Call vs. BTN

Fold to 3-bet IP/OOP as preflop raiser
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01-23-2025 , 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Brokenstars

It would be useful to see the following:

Raise first in (RFI) by position
3-bet frequencies vs. RFI by position --> You can add in stats, "3-bet vs EP/MP/CO/BT RFI"

cold call % (CC%)

Some BB defense stats: BB vs SB 3bet, BB vs SB Fold, BB vs SB Call

BB 3-bet, Fold and Call vs. BTN

Fold to 3-bet IP/OOP as preflop raiser








Not sure how to pull the specific statistics mentioned
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01-23-2025 , 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by WCAssassin

Not sure how to pull the specific statistics mentioned
Right click in the area where the stats are and click something like "configure report". In that new window there is a search section where you will be able to search for and add stats into the right section in which they will appear in the ribbon that you have selected. The order in which you want the stats to show in your ribbon can be moved up/down manually on the side.
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01-25-2025 , 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Brokenstars
Go to your positional tab and post the statistics from that ribbon. The stats you posted aren't particularly helpful.

It would be useful to see the following:

Raise first in (RFI) by position
3-bet frequencies vs. RFI by position --> You can add in stats, "3-bet vs EP/MP/CO/BT RFI"

cold call % (CC%)

Some BB defense stats: BB vs SB 3bet, BB vs SB Fold, BB vs SB Call

BB 3-bet, Fold and Call vs. BTN

Fold to 3-bet IP/OOP as preflop raiser



Hopefully everything requested is accounted for. I know I don't the terms that well as they are mentioned on PT4, so I may be mistaken with the metrics I added.
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01-25-2025 , 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by methaments
when IP get your shovel and shepherds cane and herd theese droolers into submission with 3bets
enter pots from the blinds by 3betting
checkraise backdoor equity and hands that interract with the board blocking opponent from connecting with the board
tripple barrel with hands that block your opponemt from having top pair like KJ on Qxx
look for spots where opponents are capped then grab your sledgehammer and start bustin cheeks with massive overbets
So there's 3betting IP, semi-bluffing with backdoor equity, overbetting. What other concepts would I do well to learn more about so as not to adapt haphazardly or overcorrect? Where might I do well to learn more about these things?

Thank you for your input.
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01-25-2025 , 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by WCAssassin

Hopefully everything requested is accounted for. I know I don't the terms that well as they are mentioned on PT4, so I may be mistaken with the metrics I added.
You still need to add RFI.

BB 3bet vs SB is 11.75%, equilibrium is going to be closer to 18-20%. Would need to evaluate 3-bet success to determine if polarization is optimal vs. your population, but this is very low. It's very common to be ~12% for microstakes players for this node.

Your IP 3-bet frequencies vs. RFI are within normal values, but should probably be evaluated as a function of the construction of the actual ranges due to relatively high CC% in MP/CO/BT (~3, 7, and 11%, respectively). I'd recommend cold calling less in all three of these positions.

Your OOP 3-bet frequencies vs. RFI don't deviate much as a function of the position for the RFI player. For example, your SB 3-bet % vs. EP/MP/CO/BT are all around ~8.5-11. I'd recommend lower vs. earlier positions and vs. BT something between 14-16% as a total percentage. For your BB 3-bet % vs. EP/MP/CO/BT it's all around ~8%. This would be high vs. EP, but low vs. BT, so it's likely that you're 3-betting around the same range vs. all opening positions.

Your BB fold to SB is 64% (!!) this is a huge leak. Likely that you are leaking in BB defense vs. other positions as well.

Your fold to 3-bet values are shown, but they need to be compared to your RFI % values to give you better feedback.

Call river efficiency is 1.68 which is a bit high and for a sample of 185k hands likely indicates you have over-folding leaks either preflop/flop/turn/river or a combination of all of that.
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01-27-2025 , 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Brokenstars
You still need to add RFI.

BB 3bet vs SB is 11.75%, equilibrium is going to be closer to 18-20%. Would need to evaluate 3-bet success to determine if polarization is optimal vs. your population, but this is very low. It's very common to be ~12% for microstakes players for this node.

Your IP 3-bet frequencies vs. RFI are within normal values, but should probably be evaluated as a function of the construction of the actual ranges due to relatively high CC% in MP/CO/BT (~3, 7, and 11%, respectively). I'd recommend cold calling less in all three of these positions.

Your OOP 3-bet frequencies vs. RFI don't deviate much as a function of the position for the RFI player. For example, your SB 3-bet % vs. EP/MP/CO/BT are all around ~8.5-11. I'd recommend lower vs. earlier positions and vs. BT something between 14-16% as a total percentage. For your BB 3-bet % vs. EP/MP/CO/BT it's all around ~8%. This would be high vs. EP, but low vs. BT, so it's likely that you're 3-betting around the same range vs. all opening positions.

Your BB fold to SB is 64% (!!) this is a huge leak. Likely that you are leaking in BB defense vs. other positions as well.

Your fold to 3-bet values are shown, but they need to be compared to your RFI % values to give you better feedback.

Call river efficiency is 1.68 which is a bit high and for a sample of 185k hands likely indicates you have over-folding leaks either preflop/flop/turn/river or a combination of all of that.





Thank you for the thoughtful input. Added the RFI to the end of the ribbon.

Not sure how specifically to fine-tune how I'm playing. Not without overcorrecting again. Much of why I tightened up in the BB was because I found myself playing big pots with marginal hands. Folding more was a means to not put myself in those situations to begin with, as often as I was. What did you find helpful with exploits, playing OOP and range construction? Perhaps solver interpretation would be good for me to get more familiar with too, to this end.

Thank you again.
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01-27-2025 , 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by WCAssassin



Thank you for the thoughtful input. Added the RFI to the end of the ribbon.

Not sure how specifically to fine-tune how I'm playing. Not without overcorrecting again. Much of why I tightened up in the BB was because I found myself playing big pots with marginal hands. Folding more was a means to not put myself in those situations to begin with, as often as I was. What did you find helpful with exploits, playing OOP and range construction? Perhaps solver interpretation would be good for me to get more familiar with too, to this end.

Thank you again.
CO RFI (33%) is too wide for you and I'd recommend reducing that to 25-28% for now.

You can take a look at the following thread for more feedback which would be applicable to you: https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/6...-into-1844832/
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03-15-2025 , 10:42 PM


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first time seeing red line going negative, u don't bluff?



red line strat



JUST SAW I KEEP DEFENDING BB OOP VS BTN!!!!!

please ignore im going to rack up my 10k hands and see from there

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03-16-2025 , 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by whatwhytypethis


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Originally Posted by whatwhytypethis
first time seeing red line going negative, u don't bluff?
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Originally Posted by whatwhytypethis


red line strat
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Originally Posted by whatwhytypethis


JUST SAW I KEEP DEFENDING BB OOP VS BTN!!!!!
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Originally Posted by whatwhytypethis
please ignore im going to rack up my 10k hands and see from there
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Originally Posted by Brokenstars
Right click in the area where the stats are and click something like "configure report". In that new window there is a search section where you will be able to search for and add stats into the right section in which they will appear in the ribbon that you have selected. The order in which you want the stats to show in your ribbon can be moved up/down manually on the side.
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Originally Posted by Brokenstars
Go to your positional tab and post the statistics from that ribbon. The stats you posted aren't particularly helpful.

It would be useful to see the following:

Raise first in (RFI) by position
3-bet frequencies vs. RFI by position --> You can add in stats, "3-bet vs EP/MP/CO/BT RFI"

cold call % (CC%)

Some BB defense stats: BB vs SB 3bet, BB vs SB Fold, BB vs SB Call

BB 3-bet, Fold and Call vs. BTN

Fold to 3-bet IP/OOP as preflop raiser
A negative red line is normal/common. Your red line being positive is likely due to you calling too much postflop and having a lot of aggression (WWSF=52, WSD = 45). Go ahead and follow the instructions above that I gave to a different user to post some more useful stats.
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03-16-2025 , 12:25 PM


Here u go sir! lmk if there is something I missed. thoughts on 2bet pf & fold OOP? THEY like to 3bet me because they know I got marginal hands or something and I hate folding to let them guess my range. hence its a low fold rate, I have worked on it but still seems need more work



i think playing too much hands vs btn on bb here...

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03-17-2025 , 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by whatwhytypethis


Here u go sir! lmk if there is something I missed. thoughts on 2bet pf & fold OOP? THEY like to 3bet me because they know I got marginal hands or something and I hate folding to let them guess my range. hence its a low fold rate, I have worked on it but still seems need more work
Can you include #hands in the screenshot so I can see the sample?

RFI% fall within okay range
CC% is absurdly high (23% CC in BTN?)
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03-17-2025 , 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by whatwhytypethis


i think playing too much hands vs btn on bb here...
Your BB vs BTN defense would be reasonable only vs. a minopen and if you played exceptionally well. So, yes, you are likely overcalling your BB significantly.
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03-17-2025 , 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Brokenstars
Can you include #hands in the screenshot so I can see the sample?

RFI% fall within okay range
CC% is absurdly high (23% CC in BTN?)
Its a low # of hands according to online norms..here u go

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06-24-2025 , 09:08 PM


Hoping to address a few leak I have before moving to 10nl. Been aiming to increase overall vpip pfr and 3b as I think I'm still too tight. Any thoughts?
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