If you check, you gotta shove over his bet imo. A lot of turn cards suck and will leave you having to ck/f (any club, A and K, so 14 outs)

I dunno what worse hands are calling if I shove the flop( A few random hands I guess because he's so fishy)... BUT
How is a club bad for me? I have a club in my hand

I would shove with the intention of ending the hand right there while thinking it was best. AJ with Ac will probably call. Villain called your 4bet, so it's easy for him to have Ac and/or Kc

Betting >> ck/shove >> ck/c imo

Frankly, if Villain had you beat on the flop, a blank turn card isn't going to change anything anyways, stacks are still going on. I mean a legit scare card came on the turn and stacks still went in because of effective stack sizes (although I do think folding was better than calling)

This would be true if the flop wasn't monotone.
If the flop is monotone then you should just bet, since any AK with a club will likely call. Thin value, really.

I think the correct line for this should be Cbet flop, Cbet a blank turn, and X/C a blank river, turning our hand into a bluff catcher. As played I'd probably cbet flop and cringe/check fold turn.

Today's results were bad, but ended good thanks to poor players at PLO.




Crushed 5PLO for a rate of 107bb/100 today. lolsamplesize, I know, but it was pretty enjoyable.

The downwards spiral up until hand 600 was all NLHE. Everything after was PLO.

This is the BEST part imo. If u can't beat 10nl you should question skill. It's nothing bad if it makes you wanna learn. But it is also a mental thing. You can't play the game you wanna play somethimes when u move up. You ether get gunshy or thoughtlessly aggro. Keep being interested in the game and not in the $$ and you'll get there soon

I think it's only the worst part because of how it effects future play. The lowered confidence from questioning ones ability tends to hurt my game quite a bit.

But I definitely agree with your post. If there's one thing I need to do more of it's focus less on results and more on my decisions, and would like to get a bit more focused on using stats/maths to figure out profitable frequencies for cbetting or double-barreling.

@OlyBrah so learn to play better postflop. Also you can't say I've won a lot more from 3b pots than non-3b pots as a defense for that strat. Ducy?

What a roller coaster ride. I am mentally exhausted.


How are you guys spending your fpps?

Guys a couple of really dumb Btn spots which must be obvious but I can't really know without asking.

Hand #1

Villan is a 28/18, Do I fold/call/3bet here?



Hand #2

CO is 34/23, BB is 27/18



Cheers.

Just played live cash. Ended up £30 down at 10p/20p. Table full of weak reggish players. A couple of hands:

1. Hero is BB with As4s. Four limps (first one from fish, others weak but not awful players), including BTN (mostly competent player who's sometimes button-clicky, likes to barrel a lot for thin value). Limpers have between 80 and 100bb stacks, BTN has 240bb, hero has 150bb.

Flop: Ac 5d 7s (pot: £1)

Checks to BTN who bets 70p, hero calls, one limper calls, others fold.

Turn: 2s (pot: £3.10)

Hero checks, limper checks, BTN bets £2, hero calls, limper folds.

River: 8d (pot: £7.10)

Hero checks, BTN bets £4, hero raises to £11.70

Thoughts?

2. Hero is SB with QQ and a 180bb stack

UTG (competent online 6m LAG reg, 250bb stack) opens for 70p, MP calls, BTN (Lithuanian player who seems tight but getting bored, never flats pre and sizes awfully, 60bb stack) 3bets to £3.50. Hero 4bets to £8.40. BB (donky player, talks a lot and tries to teach at the table) shoves for about £18. UTG shoves. MP, BTN fold. Hero tank-folds.

Again, thoughts?

Results...

H1:



H2:

Deposited 30 last week.

Managed to run it up to 85 + 10(FPP Bonus) in 35k hands 16-18 tabling at 2 NL while running $10 under EV. Thinking about taking a shot at 5 NL when i have 25 BIs. Not sure whats the main difference between 2 NL and 5NL? Would definitely start by 4 tabling first, since my previous experiences at 5NL and 10NL were terrible.

Oh yeah posted this in the PT 4 thread, dunno if i should post here but....


Hey guys, i've been trying out PT4 today(HEM2 user) and am really enjoy the clean interface and the ''user friendly' side of it.

Big problem though is that PT 4 takes very long to start up after i used ''get hands while playing''. The HUD stats doesnt show up for all my 18 tables, the longest one took like 10-15 mins and i might already have played some big pots without it.

Also, i cant seem to figure this out. When i tried to import from disk, i went to my pokerstars HH folder and found that it was EMPTY. Did some googling and looked under the PT4/Processed folder, it is empty too. So right now my stats looks weird, it says im a 100 BB winner today when im actually a 130 BB winner. I cant find the HH from both folders and getting it from email is such a freaking hassle when you play 5-10k hands a day(Think stars send max 200?).

Any advice? Would really like to get it all sort out and have the correct graphs and results.

At 6-max, 2nl has on average about 3-4/6 fish on the table. At 5nl that drops to about 1-2/6 fish at the table. You can still find a table with a LOT of fish, but mostly only when all the other tables are full and you start one. Fish always jump on the open tables when the rest aren't available, so yeah.

Difference in play? Well, the "regulars" at 5nl are still extremely exploitable, calling PF opens with bad hands that play poorly against an opening range, not folding enough in spots where they only beat a bluff, and they're pretty straight forward so they're easy to hand read.

5NLHU

I was +2BIs when playing what was probably a weak reg, then -5BIs when I played someone that was just practicing HU and normally plays 1kNL FR

There's worse ways to be -3BIs for the day I guess. Plus I'm pretty sure $EV adjusted will leave me at -1BI, which doesn't mean sh*t but it raises my self esteem a little...even though it shouldn't. I have to wait to find out though...stupid Bovada

Although I made some genuinely bad plays, I'm glad I was able to not tilt for the hour long session even while being stuck. I have a hard time admitting guys have an edge over me and quitting them sometimes

Only being down 5BI's to a 1kNL reg isn't bad though. How do the microstake HU games usually play? I'd love to get involved, but considering most strategy information is for 50NL+ where people might 5bet jam AQs or pocket 9s it might be a bit useless to be watching strategy videos and such.

Watching any HU video or reading any strategy helps because HU is really just about adjusting to your opponents, regardless of stakes. Afaik the only way to play HU micros on Stars is to just start tables, the lowest they probably offer is 50NL for actual HU tables, which is why I play I like Bovada even though the rake can be relentless for my stakes. (Well that and I live in the US)

If you wanna start playing HU cash, I'd highly recommend putting in a volume of ~15 hours playing HU play chips first, just one tabling. Being nitty and not being able to adjust asap to villain tendencies will crush you if you're playing against someone solid. Also with the rake being tough to beat, you need to be pretty solid to beat it since the rake eats away at your winrate. Although my sample size isn't huge, rake for me is 16.5bb/100 at 5NL over 1241 hands.

Here's my arithmetic to make sure it all checks out:

Rake paid: $11.52
Hands played: 1241

$11.52/1241 hands = $.00928/hand

$.00928/hand x 100 = $0.928

Ran so bad last night...all my monsters ended up beat by the river.
Even a flopped set board ran out 4 diamonds.

As for this one. Hmmm...

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (UTG): $6.61
CO: $1.80 (VPIP: 42.11, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 20)
BTN: $5.38 (VPIP: 21.62, PFR: 21.62, 3Bet Preflop: 8.33, Hands: 37)
SB: $2.33 (VPIP: 53.85, PFR: 34.62, 3Bet Preflop: 18.18, Hands: 27)
BB: $8.76 (VPIP: 18.18, PFR: 18.18, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 35)

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has 8 8

Hero raises to $0.15, CO calls $0.15, fold, fold, fold

Flop: ($0.37, 2 players) 7 6 4
Hero bets $0.20, CO raises to $0.40, Hero calls $0.20

Turn: ($1.17, 2 players) 8
Hero checks, CO bets $0.75, Hero raises to $2.05, CO calls $0.50 and is all-in

River: ($3.67, 2 players) 5



Only time I was stacked though.
I guess against this villain it's a standard GII spot?

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: $5.59 (VPIP: 28.07, PFR: 24.56, 3Bet Preflop: 6.25, Hands: 59)
UTG: $5.00 (VPIP: 14.68, PFR: 11.95, 3Bet Preflop: 4.04, Hands: 301)
MP: $5.00 (VPIP: 23.97, PFR: 19.01, 3Bet Preflop: 8.70, Hands: 124)
CO: $8.33 (VPIP: 41.82, PFR: 14.55, 3Bet Preflop: 4.00, Hands: 58)
BTN: $7.25 (VPIP: 17.53, PFR: 8.25, 3Bet Preflop: 2.86, Hands: 98)
Hero (SB): $5.00

Hero posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has Q A

fold, fold, CO raises to $0.15, fold, Hero calls $0.13, fold

Flop: ($0.35, 2 players) Q A T
Hero checks, CO bets $0.35, Hero raises to $0.85, CO raises to $3.75, Hero raises to $4.85 and is all-in, CO calls $1.10

Turn: ($10.05, 2 players) 7

River: ($10.05, 2 players) 4



Unbelievable 80/5 fish was sat to my left running super hot, never folding, got a 300bb stack then lost a BI calling down with J4o on a KKAA6 board
Then the rest of it on this hand.
Unfortunately he took some of my money with silly hands like this hitting 2 pair by the river.

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: $7.60 (VPIP: 80.68, PFR: 4.55, 3Bet Preflop: 4.35, Hands: 91)
MP: $8.39 (VPIP: 31.48, PFR: 22.22, 3Bet Preflop: 5.88, Hands: 55)
CO: $7.31 (VPIP: 11.54, PFR: 8.97, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 78)
BTN: $12.55 (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 13.73, 3Bet Preflop: 3.45, Hands: 103)
Hero (SB): $5.48
BB: $12.50 (VPIP: 30.84, PFR: 23.36, 3Bet Preflop: 15.38, Hands: 109)

Hero posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has A 8

UTG calls $0.05, fold, fold, BTN raises to $0.20, fold, fold, UTG calls $0.15

Flop: ($0.47, 2 players) 6 7 2
UTG checks, BTN bets $0.36, UTG calls $0.36

Turn: ($1.19, 2 players) 7
UTG checks, BTN bets $0.65, UTG calls $0.65

River: ($2.49, 2 players) K
UTG bets $1.20, BTN raises to $11.34 and is all-in, UTG calls $5.19 and is all-in

H1 = LMAO

fold riv in h1. after looking at results i think his call is fine (you x/c a 6 way Ahi flop...)
h2 prob a close fold just stove it

Idk if it's because you're playing with online players, but it seems like you're playing GTO. You need to play exploitable in live play

H1: The time to bluff was been the turn. If you didn't think bluffing the turn would've worked, you shouldn't have done it on the river

H2: Easy fold

[ ] GTO

4bet sizing

Wouldn't bluff river and wouldn't fold QQ for 18 quid if they turned their hands up. It's a KFC bargain bucket

Sorry, could've made HH a little clearer, it's £28 more, UTG shoved, covers my £36 stack. Tbh the more I think about it the clearer a fold it is - a competent player shoves over a cold 5bet with no fold equity and 2 live hands behind.

I started this month with 200 and I have 1650 now playing live 1/2. Last night I got lucky, I had 2 3 clubs and hit a straight flush on the turn, and did a hal pot sized bet. The villain called and hit a full house on river and went allin. The whole table and dealer misread the hand and thought he won.

???
You put them right though?

Anyway, rungood today!

Not many hands on this feller but what I had seen he was all over the place.
Guess he's repping a 4? But he hasn't got a 4 in his 3 bet calling range has he?
Judging by his showdown hand he very well could have

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: $5.07 (VPIP: 11.11, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 21)
BTN: $7.00 (VPIP: 17.46, PFR: 15.08, 3Bet Preflop: 4.65, Hands: 128)
SB: $12.48 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 33.33, Hands: 21)
BB: $2.00
UTG: $3.53 (VPIP: 69.23, PFR: 23.08, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 13)
Hero (MP): $5.03

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has A K

UTG raises to $0.10, Hero raises to $0.25, fold, fold, fold, fold, UTG calls $0.15

Flop: ($0.57, 2 players) Q 6 4
UTG checks, Hero bets $0.40, UTG calls $0.40

Turn: ($1.37, 2 players) K
UTG checks, Hero bets $0.70, UTG calls $0.70

River: ($2.77, 2 players) 4
UTG bets $2.18 and is all-in, Hero calls $2.18



This guy seemed like a reg. Guess he put me on a flush draw and thought I'd fold.
Is his play ever good?

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: $5.14 (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 15)
Hero (BTN): $5.00
SB: $5.34 (VPIP: 21.15, PFR: 17.31, 3Bet Preflop: 11.76, Hands: 53)
BB: $8.79 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 29.17, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 24)
UTG: $5.70 (VPIP: 20.83, PFR: 20.83, 3Bet Preflop: 10.00, Hands: 24)

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has T T

UTG raises to $0.20, fold, Hero calls $0.20, fold, fold

Flop: ($0.47, 2 players) 5 T J
UTG bets $0.22, Hero raises to $0.65, UTG calls $0.43

Turn: ($1.77, 2 players) 7
UTG checks, Hero bets $1.25, UTG calls $1.25

River: ($4.27, 2 players) 6
UTG bets $3.60 and is all-in, Hero calls $2.90 and is all-in