@tda not a fan of over betting OTR in H1. How many 2P or sets to do bet on the turn? And you have a lot better hands to do this with that block his calling range.

Is always folding low PPs to a 3bet preflop a leak? Or should I include some in my light 4bet range? Or maybe even flat and barrel flop if no paint hits?

hey guys! started playing NL2 6max recently,just 1 question. when do pokerstars deposit in the FREE20 bonus that i deposited with? i deposit $20 and was told i would be getting an extra $20 but i haven't seen it yet.

btw anyone here interested to let sweat me for abit?

PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

Hero (BTN): $2.34
SB: $2.01 (VPIP: 8.33, PFR: 8.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
BB: $0.92 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 3)
UTG: $2.41 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
MP: $3.40
CO: $2.80 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)

SB posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has 9h Jh
fold, MP raises to $0.06, fold, Hero calls $0.06, fold, fold

Flop : ($0.15, 2 players) 2c Jc Ts
MP bets $0.10, Hero calls $0.10

Turn : ($0.35, 2 players) Js
MP checks, Hero bets $0.28, MP calls $0.28

River : ($0.91, 2 players) 4h
MP checks, Hero bets $0.74, MP calls $0.74

Hero shows 9h Jh (Three of a Kind, Jacks) (Pre 20%, Flop 20%, Turn 95%)
MP mucks Kc Kd (Two Pair, Kings and Jacks) (Pre 80%, Flop 80%, Turn 5%)
Hero wins $2.31


btw is my bet size ok for this hand? **on turn and river**

@sick5betpreflop

I would personally muck J9s pre from a raise from on unknown but looks OK as played.

H1) Ugly flop. Should we just b/f when we get min raised on the turn or just shove it in?

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: $3.47 (VPIP: 24.16, PFR: 19.21, 3Bet Preflop: 11.48, Hands: 186)
Hero (MP): $5.57
CO: $5.00 (VPIP: 24.65, PFR: 14.85, 3Bet Preflop: 5.38, Hands: 364)
BTN: $5.84 (VPIP: 9.09, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 81)
SB: $10.18 (VPIP: 26.67, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)
BB: $5.23

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has A A

fold, Hero raises to $0.15, CO calls $0.15, fold, fold, fold

Flop: ($0.37, 2 players) T K 9
Hero bets $0.25, CO calls $0.25

Turn: ($0.87, 2 players) 5
Hero bets $0.60, CO raises to $1.20, Hero?

Happy to GII in there, need to fade some rivers probably, but still happy.
Having a hard time responding properly to getting c/r'ed on pretty dry flops while holding middle/top pair. ANy advice for scenarios like these?

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): $34.85
SB: $71.92 (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 28.57, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
BB: $29.46 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
UTG: $65.59 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
MP: $50.35 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
CO: $27.85 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has J 9

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.62, fold, BB calls $0.37

Flop: ($1.34, 2 players) T 9 4
BB checks, Hero bets $0.73, BB raises to $2.00, Hero ??

Call unless you think he can x/r to for value

Ye learn how to construct ranges it's not hard just time consuming.

J9o is probably an easy enough fold in that scenario but ye that's one type of flop that is reasonably rare so probably sort your ranges out on more frequent boards first. Which although you think you play well you probably don't otherwise you wouldn't be asking the question you did.

Where do I learn to "construct ranges"?

Mmss reason for folding?

I was kind of lying anyway it is really hard, I meant just really basic stuff. But realistically you want to make sure you have a solid grasp on lots of the basics maths of poker and basic concepts and then read up on like c-bet concept of the weeks which is probably the best starting point to get into it.

Thinking about our ranges is sooooooo important.

Because most people don't x/r wide enough (although some do far too much on dry boards, but don't have that read).

We have almost no equity vs pretty much every value raise in his range (which I'm assumign is most of villains range anyway), villains bluffing range assuming he's thinking has lots of equity against us. We don't have any turn cards that we like, lots of turns we dislike and very few we like probably leading us to make more mistakes later in the hand. The last reason usually shouldn't be a reason to fold, but there is no harm in it as long as we mark it and think through the spot later.

This is probably one of the weaker hands that we cbet too, so we're not going to be exploitable by folding (most likely).

Thanks for the feedback, I indeed ended up folding for the exact same reasons you mentioned.

I know thinking about ranges is very important, but sometimes it's a bit hard for me to put a villain on a range, especially a BB v button flat

fold unless you have high implied odds( i.e. villain is a fish or huge nit). You can widen to 77/66 on the button vs the blinds though IMO in most cases.

i'm guessing(haven't done the maths on it) you shouldn't be folding any 9x here theoretically since our range is so wide on the button but like MMSS said he has value a lot here and its going to be very difficult to play so exploit him but folding.

Thanks Gamma, was just wondering because I had a couple of those situations not far apart, but my thought process was right Agree with widening on the B vs blinds

What stakes were you playing at prior to your Million cash btw dude? 25NL is a huge step up unless you was comfortably beating 10NL prior. Just a fwiw

I was beating 10NL with 4.5BB/100 over a decent sample size.
I keep confusing you with randomcrayon, a guy I buy shares of in marketplace sometimes :P

Another frustrating day. Down just over half a buy in. Lost a stack with AA, got sucked out on a few occasions, and found myself getting 3bet a lot when I didn't have the goods. Oh well. Half a buy in is better than 2!

Playing well is often about losing less than it is about winning more.

Wp

Also a frustrating session, although ended up breakeven-ish.

Had one fish 100/68/68 3b over 30 odd hands.
Kept open or 3b shoving 100bb.
I folded a couple of times to his 3b shoves - AJs and TT I think.
He was called twice by AA and he had AJs (open shove) and 83o (3b shove )

Anyway, more interesting stuff.
1. Attempt to increase my post flop aggression. Good spot or no?
His sizing is a bit telling I think.

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BB): $5.16
UTG: $12.45 (VPIP: 55.56, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
MP: $9.28 (VPIP: 24.39, PFR: 9.84, 3Bet Preflop: 2.33, Hands: 125)
CO: $5.00 (VPIP: 24.53, PFR: 13.21, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 55)
BTN: $5.34 (VPIP: 55.56, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
SB: $5.05 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 22.22, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)

SB posts SB $0.02, Hero posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has J A

fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to $0.15, Hero calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.30, 2 players) T Q 3
SB bets $0.10, Hero calls $0.10

Turn: ($0.50, 2 players) 5
SB bets $0.10, Hero raises to $0.40, SB calls $0.30

River: ($1.30, 2 players) 2
SB checks, Hero checks



2. Limped pot, should have raised pre I think. Too big a raise on river? Think he had a hand as he raised me twice so thought he'd call.

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: $8.28 (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
MP: $5.00 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
CO: $9.33 (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
BTN: $7.13 (VPIP: 18.18, PFR: 15.91, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 47)
SB: $5.00 (VPIP: 21.94, PFR: 18.71, 3Bet Preflop: 5.45, Hands: 160)
Hero (BB): $5.00

SB posts SB $0.02, Hero posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has A 5

UTG calls $0.05, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.12, 2 players) A A 4
Hero checks, UTG checks

Turn: ($0.12, 2 players) 7
Hero bets $0.10, UTG raises to $0.20, Hero calls $0.10

River: ($0.52, 2 players) 5
Hero bets $0.35, UTG raises to $1.55, Hero raises to $4.75 and is all-in, fold



3. Nice turn but bad river. Anyone VBing here?

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: $2.30 (VPIP: 15.04, PFR: 14.41, 3Bet Preflop: 2.63, Hands: 113)
BB: $5.61 (VPIP: 35.71, PFR: 28.57, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)
CO: $3.17 (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 9.52, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 25)
Hero (BTN): $5.00

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has Q K

fold, Hero raises to $0.15, fold, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.32, 2 players) Q 9 3
BB checks, Hero bets $0.25, BB calls $0.25

Turn: ($0.82, 2 players) K
BB checks, Hero bets $0.60, BB calls $0.60

River: ($2.02, 2 players) J
BB checks, Hero checks



4. Villain a whale, should have bet turn?

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: $2.72 (VPIP: 16.53, PFR: 15.97, 3Bet Preflop: 4.88, Hands: 121)
CO: $2.19 (VPIP: 15.46, PFR: 14.43, 3Bet Preflop: 10.53, Hands: 100)
BTN: $6.33 (VPIP: 40.91, PFR: 31.82, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 22)
SB: $2.10 (VPIP: 71.43, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
BB: $3.10 (VPIP: 20.69, PFR: 6.90, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 33)
Hero (UTG): $5.00

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has Q Q

Hero raises to $0.15, fold, fold, fold, SB calls $0.13, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.45, 3 players) 9 8 7
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $0.30, SB calls $0.30, fold

Turn: ($1.05, 2 players) 9
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($1.05, 2 players) J
SB bets $0.20, Hero calls $0.20



5. Again, too big a raise on turn?

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $4.29 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
Hero (SB): $5.14
BB: $7.83 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
UTG: $9.00 (VPIP: 31.48, PFR: 31.48, 3Bet Preflop: 8.82, Hands: 109)
MP: $5.00 (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
CO: $13.18 (VPIP: 22.92, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 49)

Hero posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has 3 3

fold, fold, CO raises to $0.15, BTN calls $0.15, Hero calls $0.13, fold

Flop: ($0.50, 3 players) K 4 3
Hero checks, CO bets $0.36, fold, Hero calls $0.36

Turn: ($1.22, 2 players) 6
Hero checks, CO bets $0.87, Hero raises to $2.30, fold



6. Gah, kicking myself for only getting one street on value here. Should have bet flop, but he was calling almost every cbet and if turn hadn't been a 5 I'd be c/fing I guess.

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: $5.55 (VPIP: 28.21, PFR: 24.36, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 79)
UTG: $8.55 (VPIP: 13.04, PFR: 10.87, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 48)
MP: $5.00 (VPIP: 18.75, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 4.76, Hands: 48)
Hero (CO): $5.00
BTN: $5.00 (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
SB: $7.06 (VPIP: 74.47, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 48)

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has 5 K

fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.15, fold, SB calls $0.13, fold

Flop: ($0.35, 2 players) 7 9 5
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($0.35, 2 players) 5
SB checks, Hero bets $0.25, SB calls $0.25

River: ($0.85, 2 players) 6
SB checks, Hero checks

Not been doing too well recently. Finished down another 1.5 buyins today, although I did mincash in a freeroll tournament so I'm only down 0.5 buyins.

No major big pots lost, but not many won either, and the blinds just slowly ate away at me. I've switched to 6max from full ring as the traffic on 888 is crap at 4nl FR. Seems like there's just as many fish but just never really got many good hands, and when I did always seemed to miss the flop.

Ah well, tommorow's another day!

Reg's gon' reg. I'm so value-heavy in this spot it's not even funny.

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $30.06 (VPIP: 17.24, PFR: 15.52, 3Bet Preflop: 9.52, Hands: 59)
SB: $33.18 (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 13)
BB: $70.51 (VPIP: 16.12, PFR: 10.99, 3Bet Preflop: 3.70, Hands: 282)
UTG: $33.54 (VPIP: 38.24, PFR: 14.71, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 34)
MP: $25.00 (VPIP: 24.10, PFR: 19.28, 3Bet Preflop: 7.81, Hands: 173)
Hero (CO): $77.88

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has T T

fold, MP raises to $0.75, Hero calls $0.75, fold, fold, fold

Flop: ($1.85, 2 players) 2 K 7
MP bets $1.00, Hero calls $1.00

Turn: ($3.85, 2 players) T
MP checks, Hero bets $2.50, MP calls $2.50

River: ($8.85, 2 players) 6
MP checks, Hero bets $13.60, MP calls $13.60

Hero shows T T (Three of a Kind, Tens) (Pre 56%, Flop 9%, Turn 100%)
MP mucks K A (One Pair, Kings) (Pre 44%, Flop 91%, Turn 0%)
Hero wins $34.43

Ye I dunno, he probably has to call there because it's like the best hand in his range I'd imagine. It's quite funny that he's gone into x/c because he blocks the NFD and then convinced himself that you're likely bluffing with a missed draw even though he blocks a lot of your FD combos and the board ain't that drawy.

Anyway going to try and play 300 HU Hyper SNG's today. So I've got 24 hours. Will probably update every hundred or so, get 100 in at least before I go bed I think.

Some hands:

H1:
Poker Stars $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BB: $16.53 - VPIP: 39, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0.6, Hands: 57
UTG: $5.75 - VPIP: 40, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 5
Hero (CO): $14.11
BTN: $10.65 - VPIP: 38, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 6.3, Hands: 32
SB: $11.98 - VPIP: 32, PFR: 26, 3B: 0, AF: 2.2, Hands: 31

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is CO with T K
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.35, 1 fold, SB calls $0.30, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.80) 3 T 6 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.60, SB calls $0.60

Turn: ($2.00) 6 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.30, SB raises to $2.60, Hero raises to $5.55, SB calls $2.95

River: ($13.10) 3 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $7.61, SB calls $5.48 all in

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H2: yeah this is spew...honestly don't know how to play this one though
Poker Stars $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

SB: $5.01 - VPIP: 0, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 1
Hero (BB): $10.00 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 18, 3B: 7, AF: 2.7, Hands: 61217
UTG: $13.26 - VPIP: 0, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 1
MP: $10.00 - VPIP: 0, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 1
CO: $11.89 - VPIP: 100, PFR: 100, 3B: 0, AF: 2.0, Hands: 1
BTN: $11.61 - VPIP: 100, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 1

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BB with A K
2 folds, CO raises to $0.30, BTN calls $0.30, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.35, CO raises to $2.70, 1 fold, Hero calls $1.35

Flop: ($5.75) Q 7 J (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $1.97, Hero calls $1.97

Turn: ($9.69) J (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $2.00, Hero raises to $5.33, CO calls $3.33

River: ($20.35) K (2 players)

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H3:
Poker Stars $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

UTG: $19.53 - VPIP: 39, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0.6, Hands: 57
MP: $2.30 - VPIP: 18, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 11
CO: $10.00 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 20, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 5
Hero (BTN): $10.00
SB: $7.88 - VPIP: 38, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 6.3, Hands: 32
BB: $23.37 - VPIP: 32, PFR: 26, 3B: 0, AF: 2.2, Hands: 31

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BTN with A J
1 fold, MP checks, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.40, SB calls $0.35, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.90) A 8 J (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.62, SB raises to $1.24, Hero raises to $3.09, SB raises to $7.48, Hero calls $4.39

Turn: ($15.86) 7 (2 players)

River: ($15.86) 4 (2 players)

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H4: obvious fold on turn I think
Poker Stars $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BTN: $12.50 - VPIP: 59, PFR: 27, 3B: 7, AF: 3.9, Hands: 49
SB: $9.60 - VPIP: 46, PFR: 8, 3B: 5, AF: 2.5, Hands: 50
BB: $9.80 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 13, 3B: 14, AF: 5.0, Hands: 23
UTG: $15.99 - VPIP: 33, PFR: 14, 3B: 8, AF: 0.8, Hands: 78
Hero (CO): $10.00

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is CO with J A
UTG raises to $0.35, Hero calls $0.35, BTN calls $0.35, 2 folds

Flop: ($1.20) Q 7 K (3 players)
UTG bets $1.20, Hero calls $1.20, BTN folds

Turn: ($3.60) 6 (2 players)
UTG bets $3.60, Hero calls $3.60

River: ($10.80) 5 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

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H5: turn xb and then fold?
Poker Stars $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

SB: $7.27 - VPIP: 50, PFR: 20, 3B: 20, AF: 4.0, Hands: 20
BB: $10.42 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 17, 3B: 0, AF: 2.5, Hands: 18
UTG: $8.39 - VPIP: 32, PFR: 5, 3B: 0, AF: 3.5, Hands: 19
MP: $11.68 - VPIP: 15, PFR: 5, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 20
CO: $3.77 - VPIP: 30, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 5.0, Hands: 10
Hero (BTN): $10.33

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BTN with K K
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.35, 1 fold, BB calls $0.25

Flop: ($0.75) 5 4 6 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.50, BB calls $0.50

Turn: ($1.75) 6 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.25, BB raises to $2.90, Hero calls $1.65

River: ($7.55) 8 (2 players)
BB bets $6.67, Hero calls $6.58 all in

Which level?