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12-08-2013 , 08:26 PM
Pretty bad call imo.
12-08-2013 , 08:32 PM
I haven't won a single session in the last week it feels.
The thing is though, I'm not losing a MASSIVE amount of hands. I'm losing maybe 2 big hands a session, but not winning anywhere near enough to compensate. The last session I just had had 2 hands where I lost 100bb (one where I made a bad call, and one which was set over set), but on the other end of the scale the largest pots I won were only 30bb or something.

Unsure if it's just variance or bad play. :/ My W$SD% for the month has been something absurd like 46.2%

Thoughts? Looked like KJ or something to me.


    Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #21389151

    BTN: $21.04 (210.4 bb)
    SB: $13.42 (134.2 bb)
    BB: $5.89 (58.9 bb)
    Hero (UTG): $13.72 (137.2 bb)
    MP: $17.55 (175.5 bb)
    CO: $26.35 (263.5 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q K
    Hero raises to $0.30, 4 folds, BB calls $0.20

    Flop: ($0.65) K 9 4 (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $0.50, BB calls $0.50

    Turn: ($1.65) 3 (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $1.25, BB calls $1.25

    River: ($4.15) J (2 players)
    BB bets $3.84 and is all-in, Hero folds

    Spoiler:
    Results: $4.15 pot ($0.19 rake)
    Final Board: K 9 4 3 J
    BB mucked and won $3.96 ($1.91 net)
    Hero mucked Q K and lost (-$2.05 net)



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    Betting river here to get him off of any 99 or AxCC here. Do you guys advice just checking turn or checking river?



      Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #21389161

      BTN: $11.78 (117.8 bb)
      SB: $19.67 (196.7 bb)
      BB: $10.43 (104.3 bb)
      Hero (UTG): $12.96 (129.6 bb)
      MP: $8.26 (82.6 bb)
      CO: $11.51 (115.1 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is UTG with T Q
      Hero raises to $0.30, 4 folds, BB calls $0.20

      Flop: ($0.65) K 5 2 (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero bets $0.50, BB calls $0.50

      Turn: ($1.65) 5 (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero bets $1, BB calls $1

      River: ($3.65) K (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero bets $2.10
      12-08-2013 , 08:35 PM
      Milly update: Both Pronk and I are in the money (100% of BQ cashed woohoo!). 26k here at 1.5/3k, prob getting in a flip soon
      12-08-2013 , 08:45 PM
      Running like God over here..
      had KK on a TKT board, villain disconnects... fml
      12-08-2013 , 08:50 PM
      dillchips busted, GG bro!
      12-08-2013 , 08:52 PM
      I'm out of the Milly. Had 5bb shoved KQ ran into AJ. Biggest lifetime cash, $269.25. I'm gonna get some sleep now, it's 8.51am and I've been awake through the night. Ship the $480k Pronk, we're counting on you!
      12-08-2013 , 08:55 PM
      meh horrible shove... don't like it at all
      Back to 250k and 60th
      12-08-2013 , 08:56 PM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by dillchips
      I'm out of the Milly. Had 5bb shoved KQ ran into AJ. Biggest lifetime cash, $269.25. I'm gonna get some sleep now, it's 8.51am and I've been awake through the night. Ship the $480k Pronk, we're counting on you!
      Congrats mate, must be nice
      12-08-2013 , 08:58 PM
      Yea not a fan of the 22 shove but sweating you dude, gl
      12-08-2013 , 08:59 PM
      Yeah I know hate it myself... it was more of a LOL IM INVINCIBLE shove than anything else, need to get back to my A-game
      12-08-2013 , 09:03 PM
      When basically going all in on the river vs fish for value does anyone size it so it leaves them less than a BB so they would be more inclined to call? Or am i missing tiny value by doing this?

      i.e Fish has $2.50 left i bet $2.45 on the river
      12-08-2013 , 09:05 PM
      Didn't like your shove either but I liked villains call even less. I guess we (as villain) can give some arguments to call, but still, that call is at best barely +EV
      12-08-2013 , 09:07 PM
      'Honey, he called a raise with 86!'
      12-08-2013 , 09:17 PM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by Viva La Crayon
      When basically going all in on the river vs fish for value does anyone size it so it leaves them less than a BB so they would be more inclined to call? Or am i missing tiny value by doing this?

      i.e Fish has $2.50 left i bet $2.45 on the river
      I've heard people discussing this before, there are different opinions about it. I personally never do it, don't think it makes a difference tbh.

      There are some situations though were sizing does make a (probably small) difference. For example, If I have $8 left OTR and villain who is a fish has $3 left, I don't jam my whole stack in but just bet $3. That might look less strong to some fishes. Don't know if this actually works but I could imagine it does with certain fishes.
      12-08-2013 , 09:20 PM
      Abusing that stack size! Looked like Reikr wanted to call so bad
      12-08-2013 , 09:21 PM
      Yeah, betting effective stack is the way to go IMO, like F2012 described it

      Above 300k again in the million
      12-08-2013 , 09:21 PM
      what did you put him on pronk? Big Ax ?
      12-08-2013 , 09:22 PM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by F2012
      I've heard people discussing this before, there are different opinions about it. I personally never do it, don't think it makes a difference tbh.

      There are some situations though were sizing does make a (probably small) difference. For example, If I have $8 left OTR and villain who is a fish has $3 left, I don't jam my whole stack in but just bet $3. That might look less strong to some fishes. Don't know if this actually works but I could imagine it does with certain fishes.
      That's something i do as well. If i have a bigger stack than the other guy i never shove my whole stack when going for value just looks too aggressive, vs a reg i will as i think its normally attributed to bluffing
      12-08-2013 , 09:23 PM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by Viva La Crayon
      Abusing that stack size! Looked like Reikr wanted to call so bad
      Haha yeah put him on tilt :P guy didnt play a hand for ages then shoves K8 after i made him fold :P awesome
      PS guys any tips against the sleepiness I'm feeling? it's 2.30 in the night here and I don't have any cafeine..
      12-08-2013 , 09:25 PM
      ^^ Lol was about to say that he's on massive tilt now b/c of that shove xD

      I would eat ****loads of fruit and drink lots of water. Or eat a lot of peanutbutter sandwiches. These things make you feel fresh and energized imo

      Edit: it's person dependend, but putting on music can help too.
      12-08-2013 , 09:27 PM
      Bet you was sweating on that flop
      12-08-2013 , 09:27 PM
      PRAISE THE LORD NO DIAMONDS
      12-08-2013 , 09:28 PM
      lol @your heartrate after your call on that 299 board
      12-08-2013 , 09:28 PM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by Pronk
      Haha yeah put him on tilt :P guy didnt play a hand for ages then shoves K8 after i made him fold :P awesome
      PS guys any tips against the sleepiness I'm feeling? it's 2.30 in the night here and I don't have any cafeine..
      If you have Skype it might help to have someone sweat you with TV or Mikogo. When i ran deep in a tourney before over 10 hours and had been awake 24 hours that helped alot!
      12-08-2013 , 09:30 PM
      Is this a decent river overbet spot?

      PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BTN: $5.19 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
      SB: $13.10 (VPIP: 12.90, PFR: 9.68, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 32)
      BB: $10.07 (VPIP: 23.81, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 22)
      UTG: $12.97 (VPIP: 6.00, PFR: 4.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 51)
      Hero (MP): $23.36
      CO: $12.50

      SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

      Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has K A

      fold, Hero raises to $0.30, CO calls $0.30, fold, fold, fold

      Flop: ($0.75, 2 players) 2 3 K
      Hero bets $0.51, CO calls $0.51

      Turn: ($1.77, 2 players) 3
      Hero bets $1.21, CO calls $1.21

      River: ($4.19, 2 players) 3
      Hero bets $5.00, CO calls $5.00

      Spoiler:
      Hero shows K A (Full House, Threes full of Kings) (Pre 45%, Flop 91%, Turn 95%)
      CO mucks 9 9 (Full House, Threes full of Nines) (Pre 55%, Flop 9%, Turn 5%)
      Hero wins $13.55

            
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