Yeah, you'll be able to choose between our usual three deck options (Standard, Alternative, and Simplified). Simplified is my favourite though, and I think it goes really well with the Slick theme!

Is that Slick theme a new modifieable base. Would be nice to finally not have to mod round rings for the avatar images.

All great suggestion. I also would love an option to sit in on multiple tables with one click.

Why does badugi have its own tab instead of being a subsection of the draw poker tab? Also, what kind of stuff should we be looking forward to in the upcoming year? Are we talking more game types (a-5 (triple)draw, 5card stud, etc) or new ring game and tourny options? Also, I'm loving the badugi and am glad to see the higher limits that have been introduced. What sort of plans are there for pl/nl badugi cash? Also, are there any spread limit games on stars? If not, are there plans to introduce this format? I think spread limit tdl and badugi would work very well.

Scott,

When will the "monday update" for Window's based software take place? I've logged off and on several times this morning and no update that everyone else is talking about.

TIA

I'm pretty sure it is.

I honestly don't know! The way Badugi came about is weird. It was originally developed in 2006 (back when we introduced HORSE, Razz, and Triple Draw) but abandoned. It's possible the choice of tab is a throwback to that.

New tournaments, improvements to ring games, and improvements to client features in general. I can't give too much away though.

NL - very unlikely. PL - no immediate plans, but maybe if enough people want to play it.

There are no SL games and no plans to introduce them. I think this is the first request I've ever seen for SL, there just isn't much demand.

FYP. The release was delayed until tomorrow to fix a bug.

Fozzy, Your thoughts?

Firstly, money on the main page is one of the worst ideas ever. Many of us play in semi-public areas (ie dorm rooms) and do not want someone accidentally seeing how much money we have online.

While I disagree about either banning HEM/PT or even educating the public about it (if they want to find it, there's plenty of information, but we don't want to scare the recreational players who think that everyone has all this math that plays for them and can't be beat. It's obviously not true and sorry Sodom I realize shortstack play does require some skill, there's still a ton of skill involved in playing with a tracker+HUD. If it were that easy everyone could just pay the $80 or w/e PT or HEM cost and crush the games and make dough.

But the name-changing I like quite a bit. Sorry Stars, I know you guys are great at stuff like this and shut down a tracking site a few weeks ago, but I'm assuming you know about the recent one as well. It's not about the sites being online though, it's about the data being somewhere. I've received a message from someone who apparently found a private datamining service where for a monthly fee he was getting millions of hands for his level. And there's no way at all to monitor hand sharing among users. I think Stars needs to admit that as good as they are, they can't stop datamining/db sharing completely, and that a simple measure such as screen name changes could stop a ton of that. I'd even say like once a month or every ~200k hands wouldn't be too short of a time.

And finally sne: There was a time last year I was told the 200nl FR vpp rate was like .53 vpp/hand. Whether it was or not I don't know, I wasn't playing the game then. Now I am, and a good day is when I make .42. It was .45 a few months ago. Whether it's the guys shortstacking for sne/milestone or just the games getting dryer I don't know. All it means is that next year most likely instead of the ~2 million hands it'll be an extra 400k hands plus obviously the games are not as profitable with the other regs going for sne and stuff. Bottom line is lower winrate, have to play more hands to make it, and I've heard from so many people that the games at other sites are softer at the limits I play mainly because you have so many high-volume players. Obviously they play here though because of the rewards plus for the basically amazing support you guys have.

So although I'd hate to move my business elsewhere, it's getting to the point where the bonuses aren't worth the tougher field and the insane number of hands. I'll give it a shot in January, but if the games really get as bad as some have predicted with all the other sne chasers I'll be moving my play to a softer site where the softer field and the fact that I won't have to play as many hands will most likely make up for the difference between sne bonus money and rakeback along with the support. I don't know what I'd do as Stars, maybe slightly increase vpps/hand (ie modify the vpp rules somehow)? Obviously this costs you money and I don't know whether it would be more or less than the lost business you'd get from high-volume players. I just know that I'm not alone in this and I know multiple people who have already switched.

I haven't done the update yet, but if this is what it seems like (a constantly-updating balance in the lobby that can't be removed), I think it's a bad idea. Aside from zachvac's reason, some players who wish to avoid emotional reactions to short-term swings make a point of NOT viewing their account balance beyond an infrequent basis to make necessary deposits and withdrawals. When PartyPoker introduced this, I think there was a lot of backlash against it here.

Should be easy enough to make this an option that the player can toggle on and off, right? I hope it will be.

WAT



Pretty sure more people than just me have asked for PL games.

Thanks for the quick reply. I have a few comments and a couple more questions. Keep up the great work. This feedback thread is great.

Interesting bit of history. Glad to hear that badugi was picked up off of the cutting room floor. Can you give us any details as to why it was abandoned two years ago and what caused it to be pursued again?

I guess we should read this to mean that there aren't going to be new game types introduced which I'm fine with. I think the 10 variants on the site are plenty, but perhaps more mixed games would be good. With badugi in the mix, BHOT (baduig, hold em, o/8 and triple draw) would be very fun.

OK, just curious. I figured since there are pl tournaments cash would inevitably follow. Will pl be restricted to just mtt or will the sng be spread as pl too? Also, can we expect higher buyins for the badugi mtts? What about the triple draw mtts?

I've never really played spread limit games, but it used to be very popular at casinos, especially in stud games I think. I remember in ssII Negraneu wrote that triple draw is sometimes plays as a spread limit game. I think it would be a lot of fun if it were implemented in some variants. So consider this the first request, lol. Sorry, still giddy over my win in last night's badugiment.

Hi

FWIW - This whole 'No Immediate Plans for PL Badugi' comes as quite a surprise to me, and upsets me deeply.

I'm sure we'll get the pl version soon enough if it really makes the game as good as people seem to think it does. Stars has been amazing about add/adapting their games to please their customers.

I don't know if it's been mention. I would love to see an OPTION for turning off the FLASHING when it's somebody's turn to act. It really bothers my eyes while I'm trying to follow the action. Also instead of the cards coming out 1000mph on the board/street. I would like to see the cards just turn over,much easier for the eyes.

I have animation turned off, that answers the second question. It's just under options -> animation toggle check-box.

If you misclick fold when you have the option to check, it brings up a popup where your only options are check and fold. you should obviously be allowed to bet

It's a bit annoying that closing the "VIP Status" window also minimizes the lobby.

You can turn this off by unchecking "minimize main lobby when opening new table" under Options -> Advanced multi table options

What about Double VPP promotion in this christmas ????

+1 lol

Alex please convince them to add PL Badugi. Thanks.

fyp

Something similar would be able to show what you're folding in a heads up situation. Instead of saying what you had, and nobody believes you made a great lay down.

For the flashing when it's a players turn to act I hope something can be done about that. Please make it an option. Flashing on or Off. For now I'm using sunglasses,which helps.

What theme?? Try a different theme, that has a more subtle active player image. There are plenty of custom themes available (free and not free) which may be of benefit to you, if it really bothers you that much. Search the software forum (or my profile) for some alternative custom Stars Themes.

Are there any plans to upgrade the Private Tournament stuff? I host them occasionally for my friends, but the lack of options and the crappy structure are really a letdown. Any chance things such as 3000 starting chips, slower moving strucure and 6 max will be added somewhere in the near future?