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01-26-2018 , 05:12 PM
Dude, I did come for differing opinions. Why do you think I called reddit the nut low. Pick a coin and their reddit is a complete circle jerk. It's not your content, some of which I've picked up a few things from and some of which sounds off to me. It's your high school attitude.
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01-26-2018 , 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by coordi
The internet?
So I'm ****ed then?
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01-26-2018 , 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by gna
buddy told me to use robinhood instead of coinbase. is it legit?
so no one has any experience with this?
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01-26-2018 , 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by sled mobiles
So I'm ****ed then?
Don't use discussion boards as the foundation for your learning. Read articles, white papers, and things like that. Form the foundation for your opinions on your own. Use discussion to ask specific questions and dig information from people who have shown knowledge you appreciate.

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so no one has any experience with this?
They opened yesterday or something like that...
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01-26-2018 , 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by coordi
Don't use discussion boards as the foundation for your learning. Read articles, white papers, and things like that. Form the foundation for your opinions on your own. Use discussion to ask specific questions and dig information from people who have shown knowledge you appreciate.
No I do go through specific coins sites and papers, articles etc. But it's nice to have a place to ask questions or listen to people discuss new stuff. Just wondering if there are any hidden oases out there.
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01-26-2018 , 06:22 PM
They wouldn't be hidden nor an oasis for long if they were being advertised here.
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01-26-2018 , 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by XMember
You must be trolling. I am your superior on this topic in every way.
Derogative tone, referring to everyone as kids, yup, hello Limon. I think I would rather take crypto advice from my toaster.
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01-26-2018 , 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by pontylad
Derogative tone, referring to everyone as kids, yup, hello Limon. I think I would rather take crypto advice from my toaster.
You should take advice from your toaster. It is assuredly smarter than you, lad.
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01-26-2018 , 07:03 PM
For anyone unaware, you can ignore specific members via right click -> view public profile -> user lists -> add to ignore list.

It's a great feature to use on butthurt trolls incapable of using the multi-quote button.
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01-26-2018 , 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Zenzor
For anyone unaware, you can ignore specific members via right click -> view public profile -> user lists -> add to ignore list.

It's a great feature to use on butthurt trolls incapable of using the multi-quote button.
Sounds like you're trying to "big time" him here, he doesn't like that and you wouldn't like him when he's angry.
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01-26-2018 , 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Go Get It
People moving out of bitcoin and into alts?

The last couple of times I've bought btc from fiat it's been to move into alts basically that day.

I personally am holding less btc now that ever fwiw. And have done exactly that. Btcs upside in terms of %growth available is clearly less than damn near all alts it's just a safer bet to be around. So people with a high risk tolerance, like me, can speculate a bit on alts we like to try and maximise profit.
Almost all the alts have fallen considerably in the same time frame.
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01-27-2018 , 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by XMember
I could post countless articles of poker players on the way to wsop having their bank rolls seized. I could also tell stories of home games being busted and the players who aren’t breaking any laws get their money taken for six months and then only get half of it back. This isn’t a conspiracy, the govt takes innocent citizens money and property every day.
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01-27-2018 , 12:22 AM
Hey all have few questions about wallets. I currently use electrum on computer and its good. Everyone seem to suggest to get hardware wallet like a nano ledger or trezor. First off, is buying on amazon safe as long as the seller you are buying off of has good reviews? I heard about that story where some guy bought a ledger on ebay but the thing was the seller sent the 24 word seed with it and thus the person who bought the wallet just used the wallet as is. So if you receive the nano ledger and as long as you reset it, then there is no way the wallet could get hacked right? I heard that if you put the pin wrong 3 times, then it automatically resets and generates a new seed. So basically that person who bought that nano ledger could have made sure to reset it, then it wouldn't have happened? That story is on reddit and very long etc and people said the device is not compromised... it was just that it came with a piece of paper with the seed printed like professionally done.


To those people that say buy a hardware wallet, the thing is i checked the coins that the nano ledger supports and there definitely are a lot of coins that are not supported by the hardware wallet. If thats the case and you have those coins and btc etc... wouldn't it make more sense to buy a new laptop sole for storing coins such as electrum and all those other altcoin wallets that you have to download? Because even with your ledger nano, well you still need to download other wallets if you own other coins that are not popular right? But of course if you only own btc, eth and litecoin and those big name ones, then obviously putting it on the nano ledger would be good.


Also another security question. Im sure there are people here that has bitcoin wallet or their other wallets on their main computer and probably done things like stream sports or tv through streaming websites. And of course visiting porn websites etc. But is doing things like this very dangerous? Thus if you want to watch porn/download porn or basically stream tv or download movies etc... buy a separate computer solely for this? Someone on another forum mentioned that even if you stream tv show or sports with a different computer, they could possibly hack into your INTERNET CONNECTION. So does that mean if you have bitcoin/altcoin and you want to stream or download movies, not only should you do this on a separate computer, but you probably should get a 2nd internet connection or use another internet connection if you have one? Because i have heard many cases of wallets getting hacked and people didn't know how did it even happen. I know people say you should have a separate computer for financial transactions such as banking but for this, obviously its more important? Thus you should never stream from even well known streaming sites to watch sports/tv show etc?
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01-27-2018 , 12:41 AM
Man this thread keeps getting worse. Best crypto discussion happening on Twitter imo.

Here's a good dashboard visualizing the Lightning Network on the Bitcoin mainnet: http://lnstat.ideoflux.com:3000/dash...esh=5m&orgId=1

It's still very early (first LN transaction was <1 month ago) and no devs are giving the go ahead yet, but the progress is definitely exciting.
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01-27-2018 , 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by omar coming
Man this thread keeps getting worse. Best crypto discussion happening on Twitter imo.

Here's a good dashboard visualizing the Lightning Network on the Bitcoin mainnet: http://lnstat.ideoflux.com:3000/dash...esh=5m&orgId=1

It's still very early (first LN transaction was <1 month ago) and no devs are giving the go ahead yet, but the progress is definitely exciting.
The beginning of the end of 80% of the **** coins... Have fun playing the alts!
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01-27-2018 , 02:19 AM
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Originally Posted by rubbrband
I could post countless articles of poker players on the way to wsop having their bank rolls seized. I could also tell stories of home games being busted and the players who aren’t breaking any laws get their money taken for six months and then only get half of it back. This isn’t a conspiracy, the govt takes innocent citizens money and property every day.
I also have many stories like this. I found out a new one in the past year I didn't even know know about having myself traveled a lot to play cash games in different countries for small trips.

my friend from the USA went to go play this big casino poker game in panama for a weekend trip. US government took 50k cash from him. apparently not only do you have to declare money when you enter the united states with over 10k cash, but when you leave the USA with over 10k you have to fill out a form as well and drop it off. the airlines though doesn't give you this form. you have to find the office that has it at the airport. my friend had to wait a year to get the money back after spending like 5k for a lawyer.
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01-27-2018 , 02:25 AM


spoofy controls the entire crypto market.


1 person controls the entire valuation of btc/eth/****coins. he literally spent 0$ walking up bid sidr finex to MC top holder and then once it hung on the orderbook he disappeared into the night.


what a ****ing boss
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01-27-2018 , 02:50 AM
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Originally Posted by aggo


spoofy controls the entire crypto market.


1 person controls the entire valuation of btc/eth/****coins. he literally spent 0$ walking up bid sidr finex to MC top holder and then once it hung on the orderbook he disappeared into the night.


what a ****ing boss
so one guy forced this guy to liquidate this huge position using 0$ and it sent the price up like 5%?
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01-27-2018 , 03:04 AM
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Originally Posted by AllinPoker
so one guy forced this guy to liquidate this huge position using 0$ and it sent the price up like 5%?
whenever u put up 20m on the bid side close to the midpoint, there's risk, right?

Spoofy was able to do this spending $0. But also note that this could mean that you're also buying his asks on the other side, right...? put up 20m on the bid side, have your own asks (true intention) get filled as market moves up. So it kind of boils down to what you believe is going on.


Spoofy could be 1 guy. He could be a team of people. He could be the market maker too.

Dunno. the only thing i can say for sure is that he exists as a real person.
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01-27-2018 , 04:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Zenzor
For anyone unaware, you can ignore specific members via right click -> view public profile -> user lists -> add to ignore list.

It's a great feature to use on butthurt trolls incapable of using the multi-quote button.
Didn't know that. Will deploy. Thanks.
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01-27-2018 , 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by aggo
whenever u put up 20m on the bid side close to the midpoint, there's risk, right?

Spoofy was able to do this spending $0. But also note that this could mean that you're also buying his asks on the other side, right...? put up 20m on the bid side, have your own asks (true intention) get filled as market moves up. So it kind of boils down to what you believe is going on.


Spoofy could be 1 guy. He could be a team of people. He could be the market maker too.

Dunno. the only thing i can say for sure is that he exists as a real person.
Very interesting to think about how the big players (spoofy) could move the markets using their tricks. I’m still new to all these concepts and trying to understand it better and not that familiar with contracts. If you don’t mind a couple more questions. What exactly was the bid set at out of curiosity? Spread between multiple big bids or just one huge one of like 1500+ btc.

Also now when his asks keep getting bought up on the way up, does he move up his big bids? To keep the momentum going?

And how exactly do such big contracts get liquidated when triggered? Is it a market order to immediately sell everything at any price when it hits a certain price? you are saying he disappears before this part?
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01-27-2018 , 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by AllinPoker
I also have many stories like this. I found out a new one in the past year I didn't even know know about having myself traveled a lot to play cash games in different countries for small trips.

my friend from the USA went to go play this big casino poker game in panama for a weekend trip. US government took 50k cash from him. apparently not only do you have to declare money when you enter the united states with over 10k cash, but when you leave the USA with over 10k you have to fill out a form as well and drop it off. the airlines though doesn't give you this form. you have to find the office that has it at the airport. my friend had to wait a year to get the money back after spending like 5k for a lawyer.
Anyone leaving the country with over 10k who isn't a stone moron would know this
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01-27-2018 , 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by AllinPoker
Very interesting to think about how the big players (spoofy) could move the markets using their tricks. I’m still new to all these concepts and trying to understand it better and not that familiar with contracts. If you don’t mind a couple more questions. What exactly was the bid set at out of curiosity? Spread between multiple big bids or just one huge one of like 1500+ btc.

Also now when his asks keep getting bought up on the way up, does he move up his big bids? To keep the momentum going?

And how exactly do such big contracts get liquidated when triggered? Is it a market order to immediately sell everything at any price when it hits a certain price? you are saying he disappears before this part?

he put up 10m in bids 100 coins off the midpoint at 11000. market moved up about 100 bucks.

he took it off for about 15m. market inched up a little more, then he put 20m in the front of the book and market pushed past 11250. guy gets MCed, and he pulled all bids.

alot of market manipulation can occur when people are given no fees on trades. on finex, everyone pays a fee on trades. the risk is that you can get market sold into, and its happened before to people like spoofy and when there are big spreads between exchanges.
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01-27-2018 , 11:29 AM
I want to be Spoofy when I grow up
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01-27-2018 , 01:26 PM
Thanks so much for the feedback last time guys. I made episode 3 today talking about the qualities needed to be a successful trader.

Episode one: https://youtu.be/aCYZFZy8z9k
Episode two: https://youtu.be/8qv1TAejbT4
Episode 3: https://youtu.be/ZZ0qHtB570M

Its a comedy series about the life of a professional crypto currency day trader.
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