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04-22-2020 , 03:49 AM
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Originally Posted by despacito
I thought IBKR handled it well by instantly eating the loss for clients and Peterffy was smooth in TV interviews (though more rattled than I have seen him before). Not worried about IBKR; curious to see how other brokers handle it.
You here that pissing noise in the middle of the interview? WSB even caught that one.
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04-22-2020 , 04:02 AM
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Originally Posted by :::grimReaper:::
You here that pissing noise in the middle of the interview? WSB even caught that one.
Truly bizarre...

https://youtu.be/FFLnsy7xTMA?t=77

(at 1m 19s)
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04-22-2020 , 04:04 AM
And he shakes his head too lol
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04-22-2020 , 04:43 AM
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Originally Posted by despacito
I thought IBKR handled it well by instantly eating the loss for clients and Peterffy was smooth in TV interviews (though more rattled than I have seen him before). Not worried about IBKR; curious to see how other brokers handle it.

EDIT: Always struck me as a recipe for disaster they let retail investors trade futures requiring physical delivery on the basis of forced liquidation before expiry, but maybe there's a segment of their customer base that does huge volume and never makes this mistake, idk.
The most charitable explanation is that they are greedy and foolish.
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04-22-2020 , 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by ToothSayer
They have <$100 million in exposure against billions in assets, of course they'll be fine. And they disclosed voluntarily. Meanwhile there's another half trillion in oil losses out there at some other brokerages, apparently, who haven't disclosed and have far worse risk management tools than IB does and probably far worse balance sheets.
Trillion?
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04-22-2020 , 08:36 AM
Here's an interesting read on oil tanker stocks.

https://seekingalpha.com/article/433...keven-analysis

To those of you who are long oil tankers, what signals are you looking for to exit the position/planned investment horizon?
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04-22-2020 , 09:09 AM
USO back up to 2.9, am i crazy to double down here with some $3 and $2.5 puts once 9:30 hits?
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04-22-2020 , 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by rickroll
USO back up to 2.9, am i crazy to double down here with some $3 and $2.5 puts once 9:30 hits?
I thought there was a reverse split today
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04-22-2020 , 09:30 AM
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04-22-2020 , 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by turtletom
I thought there was a reverse split today
it's not until the 28th

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/do...lit-2020-04-22

this is new territory for me, i'm guessing it's a good thing for all my put options and i should definitely hold onto them until at least the split occurs right?

new territory here will be reading up on it but as always would appreciate hearing the wisdom of the crowd
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04-22-2020 , 09:53 AM
BNTX jumped from 42 to 56 on news their vaccine got approval for human testing - which isn't really any breakthrough at all but standard procedure, already down to 48 as most people who owned it probably accurately read that was way too high a jump on non news same as gilead

am thinking of starting a fund to buy all biotechs with something big in the pipeline then sell the minute they get a standard "we're moving onto stage 2 of 8 stages" type news

another thought is in the sports threads we had a lot of fun doing a crowdsourced sports betting group with proposals and voting by anyone who contributed $10 - would there be any interest in doing that here? would be a lot of fun and be a great platform to share ideas and I'd imagine the greatest benefit is replicating the same trades yourself that you like which the group votes upon
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04-22-2020 , 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by rickroll
it's not until the 28th

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/do...lit-2020-04-22

this is new territory for me, i'm guessing it's a good thing for all my put options and i should definitely hold onto them until at least the split occurs right?

new territory here will be reading up on it but as always would appreciate hearing the wisdom of the crowd
No idea. It's such a broken product now. I have the front month contract up about 25% today and USO is down. Crazy.

Edit: Don't listen to me, but personally if you can halve your position and let the rest roll would be the best option imo or just get out completely. Really hard to play a broken product.
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04-22-2020 , 10:27 AM
ummm, this was on my ibkr notifications, sadly i didn't quite lose 7 figures in my earlier longs to qualify

unreal stuff, very glad i got out when i did instead of trying to weather the storm

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INVESTIGATION ALERT: The Schall Law Firm Announces it is Investigating Claims Against United States Oil Fund, LP and Encourages Investors with Losses of $1,000,000 to Contact the Firm
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INVESTIGATION ALERT: The Schall Law Firm Announces it is Investigating Claims
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investors. USO issued its registration statement on March 23, 2020, stating in
part “USCF does not anticipate letting USO’s Oil Futures Contracts expire
and taking delivery of the underlying commodity. Instead, USCF will close
existing positions, e.g., when it changes the Benchmark Oil Futures Contracts
or Other Oil-Related Investments or it otherwise determines it would be
appropriate to do so and reinvests the proceeds in new Oil Futures Contracts
or Other Oil-Related Investments.” But despite that statement, the Company
held 25% of the market on May WTI contracts. Trading was halted on April 21,
2020, as shares of USO dropped 25.1% to close at $2.81, a record low. USO is
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04-22-2020 , 10:39 AM
Standard scumbag lawyer play. Any stock that goes down a bunch gets one or more class action suits. Law firms capture 75%+ of any settlement.
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04-22-2020 , 11:09 AM
based on what i'm seeing on twitter today, i would not be surprised if USA tried starting a war w iran in order to save shale

not trading advice etc etc zzzzzz
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04-22-2020 , 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by turtletom
No idea. It's such a broken product now. I have the front month contract up about 25% today and USO is down. Crazy.
USO has been a joke since inception and anyone who invests in it as a long term vehicle is a clown-shaped potato. contango remains undefeated.

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04-22-2020 , 11:29 AM
wow snap
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04-22-2020 , 11:36 AM
re SNAP, welcome to the new economy

Revenue $462.47 million
Net loss $(306) million

makes TSLA looks good
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04-22-2020 , 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Clayton
USO has been a joke since inception and anyone who invests in it as a long term vehicle is a clown-shaped potato
this cuts deep

clayton what play would you like for oil once it's time to go long then?
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04-22-2020 , 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Clayton
based on what i'm seeing on twitter today, i would not be surprised if USA tried starting a war w iran in order to save shale

not trading advice etc etc zzzzzz
wouldnt it be more ideal for the usa if iran just striked saudi oil infrastructure again. that would bump up the price of oil too
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04-22-2020 , 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by rickroll
this cuts deep

clayton what play would you like for oil once it's time to go long then?
The was nothing wrong with USO in non-crazy times (like oil going negative crazy times), same as there was nothing wrong with using XIV to make bets. Clayton is just being Clayton. The real mistake was longing something where demand has dropped 30% and supply has dropped 10% with the storage capacity nearly full. First principles stuff.
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04-22-2020 , 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ToothSayer
The was nothing wrong with USO in non-crazy times (like oil going negative crazy times), same as there was nothing wrong with using XIV to make bets.
not even sure what you're trying to argue here, XIV was an instrument built to collect roll yield with tail risk of busto. USO (and VIXY maybe a better example) are instruments meant to capture short term opportunity but over a long period get brutalized by roll.

plz dont respond as i'm not gonna engage in whatever 7 paragraph potato argument comes next
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04-22-2020 , 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by rickroll
this cuts deep

clayton what play would you like for oil once it's time to go long then?
presumedly the big boy american oil companies that are built to withstand this bloodshed and have first dibs on the graveyards of the smaller oil and shale companies. idk what they are. i dont know anything abt individual companies, i'm just a USO hater
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04-22-2020 , 01:54 PM
gonna just put this link here and peace out on this USO discussion

https://www.fool.com/investing/2020/...-like-uso.aspx

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04-22-2020 , 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Shuffle
Bought $281 SPY calls expiring today @ 0.24
where did you get in, 277?

Where are you hoping to get out? 282?

You're betting on the market rallying another 2% during the session for a 4% + day?
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