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04-09-2020 , 12:18 PM
Is rank supposed to reset each month? I'm back down to lieutenant despite earning over 1.5k RP last month
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04-09-2020 , 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Ist Das Crazyboi
Is rank supposed to reset each month? I'm back down to lieutenant despite earning over 1.5k RP last month
At that level, yes. If that is your monthly rate, you ate far better off switching to rakeback. You have to request the switch to CS from the email you signed up with
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04-09-2020 , 12:34 PM
Does anyone else observe big winrate splits based on time-of-day?

There's a 17-point difference in my winrate before and after 2pm ET. It's only an 80k hand sample (33k before and 47k after), but the differential is drastic enough that each rate borders opposite extremes of the 95% confidence interval. This is much more severe than any difference I've seen between weekday and weekend winrates, for example, or pre- or post-quarantine, which has had much more drastic effects on number of fish in the pool than morning/afternoon.

Just curious if other WPN regs could run a quick filter to if they notice anything similar.
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04-09-2020 , 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 3_sigma
Did you actually mean this, regarding real time solver assistance during hands, like what Linus was accused of? How do you know for certain these people are cheating when ratholing to 100bb?
We're maybe getting into semantic differences between real-time solvers and pre-solved snapshots that are organized well-enough that they can be referenced in livetime.

If anything, Chazley's complaint about ratholing is LESS relevant to stopping real-time solvers because any program sophisticated enough to solve things real time can probably adjust for stack depth. It's more relevant to a pre-solved game where players can play close to perfectly just going of memory and/or static reference sheets, but can adjust on the fly to differing stack depths.

Where those two become just semantically different, though, is if there's a program that spits out pre-baked "solutions" for each spot a player is in that they can reference livetime. That's not technically a real-time solver, but it is a form of tool-assistance that would present a problem for players who have to play at varying stack depths.
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04-09-2020 , 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by TenHighCallDown
Does anyone else observe big winrate splits based on time-of-day?

There's a 17-point difference in my winrate before and after 2pm ET. It's only an 80k hand sample (33k before and 47k after), but the differential is drastic enough that each rate borders opposite extremes of the 95% confidence interval. This is much more severe than any difference I've seen between weekday and weekend winrates, for example, or pre- or post-quarantine, which has had much more drastic effects on number of fish in the pool than morning/afternoon.

Just curious if other WPN regs could run a quick filter to if they notice anything similar.
134k sample for me and it's only a 3 point difference, might just be you.
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04-09-2020 , 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by TenHighCallDown
Does anyone else observe big winrate splits based on time-of-day?
When recreational players get off work often produces win rate bumps. So around 5pm ET is the USA people starting to get off work, then add another hour or so for traveling home and eating before getting online. The 2pm ET time or around then is when I would see the Germany, UK, France, Spain, etc recreational players getting home from work.

Now I see a heck of a lot of very early morning players my time USA on Bovada which is anonymous, but my guess would be they are half way around the world Australian players getting off work playing at night given the recent online poker ban there.

Last edited by ladybruin; 04-09-2020 at 01:30 PM.
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04-09-2020 , 01:33 PM
I've noticed a 13 point difference myself, if I abstain from sexual intercourse with my wife. The question is, should I?

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And the answer is, that's not a good idea.
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04-09-2020 , 01:48 PM
how in the world do you upload tourney hands to PT4 from ACR? The hands get picked up as I play but they never get any data from them in terms of buy in won lost/ ev graphs etc. they find the hands but then they dissapear after the session. how do tourneys work on pt4 for acr
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04-09-2020 , 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by ladybruin
When recreational players get off work often produces win rate bumps.
I understand winrate splits exist between daytime/nighttime, weekday/weekend, etc, but like you said, it's a bump of a few points. It doesn't look like you're looking at graphs for two different players from opposite ends of the spectrum.

Also I wouldn't pin 2pm ET as the normal primetime for fish on a site marketed for US players.

Just thought I'd ask to see if I could gather a bigger sample.

Last edited by TenHighCallDown; 04-09-2020 at 02:07 PM.
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04-09-2020 , 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by a dewd
At that level, yes. If that is your monthly rate, you ate far better off switching to rakeback. You have to request the switch to CS from the email you signed up with
Oh, V interesting. Thanks. What is the rate of RB given?
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04-09-2020 , 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Ist Das Crazyboi
Oh, V interesting. Thanks. What is the rate of RB given?
27% flat. At 1500 CP a month you're at 12% or so.
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04-09-2020 , 03:17 PM
as far as blackjack,as soon as you x out of either site it should immediately go back to poker

don't even try to transfer money back it will do it itself
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04-09-2020 , 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by greenie7681
might just be you.
Believe me, I'm more than aware of that possibility
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04-09-2020 , 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by TenHighCallDown
We're maybe getting into semantic differences between real-time solvers and pre-solved snapshots that are organized well-enough that they can be referenced in livetime.

If anything, Chazley's complaint about ratholing is LESS relevant to stopping real-time solvers because any program sophisticated enough to solve things real time can probably adjust for stack depth. It's more relevant to a pre-solved game where players can play close to perfectly just going of memory and/or static reference sheets, but can adjust on the fly to differing stack depths.

Where those two become just semantically different, though, is if there's a program that spits out pre-baked "solutions" for each spot a player is in that they can reference livetime. That's not technically a real-time solver, but it is a form of tool-assistance that would present a problem for players who have to play at varying stack depths.
I see, I hadn't thought of the fact of how a constant stack depth so greatly facilitates optimal play assistance in this way. It is definitely extremely important then, for rathole policies to be put in place at blitz tables.

I would assume they make a good chunk of their rake from blitz alone, so I hope they take the integrity of the format seriously soon, especially since I'm a pretty new player and mainly grind 10nl, and have future goals of moving to 200nl blitz.

I know that stars has some form of rathole protection at their zoom tables, maybe just adopt their policies.
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04-09-2020 , 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by ladybruin
When recreational players get off work often produces win rate bumps. So around 5pm ET is the USA people starting to get off work, then add another hour or so for traveling home and eating before getting online. The 2pm ET time or around then is when I would see the Germany, UK, France, Spain, etc recreational players getting home from work.

Now I see a heck of a lot of very early morning players my time USA on Bovada which is anonymous, but my guess would be they are half way around the world Australian players getting off work playing at night given the recent online poker ban there.
General population works from home or is unemployed now from us. Would skew those stats from standard times a lot I would think.
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04-09-2020 , 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by TenHighCallDown
We're maybe getting into semantic differences between real-time solvers and pre-solved snapshots that are organized well-enough that they can be referenced in livetime.

If anything, Chazley's complaint about ratholing is LESS relevant to stopping real-time solvers because any program sophisticated enough to solve things real time can probably adjust for stack depth. It's more relevant to a pre-solved game where players can play close to perfectly just going of memory and/or static reference sheets, but can adjust on the fly to differing stack depths.

Where those two become just semantically different, though, is if there's a program that spits out pre-baked "solutions" for each spot a player is in that they can reference livetime. That's not technically a real-time solver, but it is a form of tool-assistance that would present a problem for players who have to play at varying stack depths.
Obviously, a real-time solver and the pre-solved screenshots are major differences. I'm referencing what Linus was accused of doing, which is having a spreadsheet of pre-solved scenarios you can constantly and quickly reference for every (mostly preflop) decision. How do we eliminate that, or at least drastically reduce the effectiveness of it? Eliminate ratholing at Blitz.
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04-09-2020 , 07:13 PM
Anyone experiencing lag and being disconnected from tables? I've noticed this begins to happen around 7pm E.T.
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04-09-2020 , 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Chazley
It should keep track of what your 4 biggest stacks were within the past hour at each stake level and make you buy in for the biggest stack in order of biggest to smallest if you try to play within the hour.

Problem solved.

The issue is 100bb 6-max poker is "solved" and youve got people with solvers popped up on their second screen while they 4 table blitz, making sure they play every spot optimally, *especially* at 200nl blitz where the time banks are longer.
That works in theory, but doesn’t work if you played 2 tables and sat out of 3 and just rotated as the time expired. It’s a brand new game every hand, it’s a pretty low issue on the totem pole.

As far as 6max NL being solved, that’s ridiculous. 1/2 Blitz on WPN is getting crushed by good players for double digit win rates....me thinks you’re being a little paranoid, but I do think timebanks should be much shorter to stop the few people who *maybe* are doing that.
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04-09-2020 , 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ladybruin
The heads up Blitz tables have a higher minimum buyin and it would be nice if the Blitz 6-max also had a higher minimum buyin. The game format is often called "fast fold" poker, therefore I believe it should be set up deep stacked with antes large enough that folding too much is the wrong strategy. That would be an ideal setup. But as for rat holing, since we are talking about computers, WPN could program whatever, for example, give people 100 rat holes a day or something. But even that over several skins ends up being a lot of opportunities to rat hole. Most live casinos have a 1 hour time out if you want to rat hole. But online with skins it doesn't work as you could just spend an hour playing a different skin unless WPN could catch every skin and lock down your play for an hour across all skins. But then multi-account cheaters would pop up.

I think the super simple solution is to just increase the minimum buyin to 150 or 200 and add antes and be done with it. Add antes larger enough to fight for so that a fast fold game isn't only a lot of fast folding would be a wise change to the format.

I wrote in another post somewhere that 50bb and under is flinging poo. And 100bb is shooting free throws in basketball. And 150bb+ is actually playing basketball.

You are correct that there are a group of players that have decided to just be extremely good 100bb free throw shooters using charts and rat holding above 125bb. The counter measure is the deeper the minimum buy in stacks get the harder this becomes post-flop.
This I would like, but it would probably turn off a lot of people.
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04-10-2020 , 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by OneShotToLive
That works in theory, but doesn’t work if you played 2 tables and sat out of 3 and just rotated as the time expired. It’s a brand new game every hand, it’s a pretty low issue on the totem pole.

As far as 6max NL being solved, that’s ridiculous. 1/2 Blitz on WPN is getting crushed by good players for double digit win rates....me thinks you’re being a little paranoid, but I do think timebanks should be much shorter to stop the few people who *maybe* are doing that.
Which players are crushing 200 blitz for double digit win rates?
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04-10-2020 , 05:34 AM
is the BEAST leaderboard working for you guys?
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04-10-2020 , 05:42 AM
Hi everyone,

It's my first time posting on here. I deposited into ACR a few weeks and recently attempted to cash out $2k to btc. After a few days, security reached out to me and said that they couldn't process the request bc I need to verify my location. It's been 4 days, and no one has followed up to clarify what exactly they need me to do. I'm still allowed to play on the website, but I just can't withdraw (of course, I could deposit if I want. lol!). My husband says our computer has a vpn, so that might be the issue. Either way, this is extremely frustrating. can anyone provide some advice?
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04-10-2020 , 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by kisgali
is the BEAST leaderboard working for you guys?
No
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04-10-2020 , 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by OneShotToLive
That works in theory, but doesn’t work if you played 2 tables and sat out of 3 and just rotated as the time expired. It’s a brand new game every hand, it’s a pretty low issue on the totem pole.

As far as 6max NL being solved, that’s ridiculous. 1/2 Blitz on WPN is getting crushed by good players for double digit win rates....me thinks you’re being a little paranoid, but I do think timebanks should be much shorter to stop the few people who *maybe* are doing that.
My idea works even better for people only playing 2 tables. Think about it.
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04-10-2020 , 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by roya
Hi everyone,

It's my first time posting on here. I deposited into ACR a few weeks and recently attempted to cash out $2k to btc. After a few days, security reached out to me and said that they couldn't process the request bc I need to verify my location. It's been 4 days, and no one has followed up to clarify what exactly they need me to do. I'm still allowed to play on the website, but I just can't withdraw (of course, I could deposit if I want. lol!). My husband says our computer has a vpn, so that might be the issue. Either way, this is extremely frustrating. can anyone provide some advice?
Their support is overloaded atm, since staff is working remotely and they have a ton of backlogged requests.

AFAIK they don't care that much about vpn use, though I could be wrong on that. They are probably just referring to needing you to certify your account, which means you have to send an ID card, and a proof of residence, like utility bill to their cashier email account.

For detailed instructions just click the FAQ link on the withdrawal page on the right to your balance, it'll tell you exactly what to do. It will take much longer for you to get your account certified right now though, I would guess 4-5 days at max.
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