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12-15-2020 , 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by rjr777
Villain folds the nuts instead of going for obvious squeeze spot against a capped range for 2nd villain. This spot is standard in PLO.

That’s the thing I think a lot of agents don’t even play or have an understanding for the game. Also the obvious conflict of interest for agents and managers to kick players especially their own players.

Much easier to say you suck play better and keep the rake coming in.
imo it looks like you don't have experience and that could be the reason why are you losing.

Why he would fold the nuts if he is only afraid of your hands since his "colluding account" has big draw( makes more likely you have same hand like he has).
Why do you think anyone who collude would show what he folded if that can bring attention on his account?

To me, it looks just a reg folded hand that can only split vs 2 perceived strong hands. So board might be something like JT7ss where he has bare 98xx, and vs 2 strong ranges his EQ is not good.
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12-15-2020 , 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by mosquito!
imo it looks like you don't have experience and that could be the reason why are you losing.

Why he would fold the nuts if he is only afraid of your hands since his "colluding account" has big draw( makes more likely you have same hand like he has).
Why do you think anyone who collude would show what he folded if that can bring attention on his account?

To me, it looks just a reg folded hand that can only split vs 2 perceived strong hands. So board might be something like JT7ss where he has bare 98xx, and vs 2 strong ranges his EQ is not good.
That’s the thing I literally cashed out 7k 3 weeks ago and 4K the week before...

Then all of a sudden I can’t win a hand. And more importantly I can’t get a hand heads up for life of me. It’s all 3-4 way to turn and river.

This particular hand is a bad example. I have a bunch of other multi way all ins that support collusion.

I wrote in haste this hand and actually deleted other posts. Bc honestly anytime I share anything ITT I get bombarded and called a loser so it’s not worth my time.
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12-15-2020 , 02:31 PM
I was merely agreeing that it appears collusion is on the rise in this app...

I’ve been around since ultimate bet and got robbed then. I’ve been around for a long time and something doesn’t smell right.
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12-15-2020 , 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by The Standard Station
Heard about this. I suggest finding a massive fish to join your group who always loses heaps and you guys kinda subsidize his losses a bit. Otherwise your quality ratio will never be good enough to not get the boot
Yes I kinda struggle to understand this logic, kicking the winners etc. There will always be winners and losers. You kick the biggest winners and there are new biggest winners. Also luck plays a role in poker so some of the biggest winners might even be losing players in the long run.

I understand this ecosystem thing, but yet in my poker career, dating back to 2007, have I seen a site or entity benefiting for kicking legit players.
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12-16-2020 , 12:05 AM
Is there spin n gos on pokerbros..low buy in
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12-16-2020 , 01:28 AM
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Originally Posted by thegrindz
Probably a guy named Greg Murphy. Can't be trusted. He is an agent that plays with player funds and dodges rakeback payments.
is there proof? Just wondering...
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12-16-2020 , 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by XieXieXie
Anybody have any idea wtf this is?

Agent has been super slow cashing out the latest funds (almost 2 months, never had any problems before - long history but other players have had the same but eventually got the money)

Now when i try to sit this comes up.... gg funds?
@Diamon union

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If anybody remembers that post from me few months back than there has been an update and i highly encourage you to read:

I know i have only few posts on 2p2 but i have been a professional for 10+ years so this is not some random posting here.
I played mid/high stakes on PokerBROS diamond union under Lethal Poker club for several months generating tens of thousands in rake. So i thought all is good and had a good agent called Ameer Username: DXBFISH 76325 being my agent.
Then first problems with delaying cashouts started to appear and i had no issues as its always been fast and can rely on the guy. Then its been weeks and i already started playing in other places and moved away from there as it was too weird. One day i couldnt even sit down at the table so all hell broke loose. Invlolved my account and also my friends. Total 5 accs that have had "pending" cashouts for months.

I would not have gotten any money back i guess if it has not been for "halperin" https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/members/70367/ on 2p2 forum who messaged me after my previous post offering to help me. Thanks to only his help and knowing contacts things started to move (Owner of the club and the agent ignored me and my friends for months!!!!!).
Him forcing the owner etc and knowing some bigger names/groups literally made the owner move and contact/answer me.
And then yesterday after week or two halperin helping me the club owner paid all the money from his own pocket (So high five to Lethal Poker Club also for doing it even tho he/they ignored me til halperin showed up) and agent officially scamming big amounts from the club me and my friends were only a small part of this but still 5 figures.
So i have never done this but god damn if you need an agent and dont actually know your agent as i did not know mine just some guy "who seemed professional" like screw that contact halperin and he can get you to any club and i mean how can you now trust that guy after my story ?

Be safe!
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12-16-2020 , 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by el_batong
Yes I kinda struggle to understand this logic, kicking the winners etc. There will always be winners and losers. You kick the biggest winners and there are new biggest winners. Also luck plays a role in poker so some of the biggest winners might even be losing players in the long run.

I understand this ecosystem thing, but yet in my poker career, dating back to 2007, have I seen a site or entity benefiting for kicking legit players.
Hey I by no means agree with the policy of booting winners, however I do see how they rationalized doing it. But the solution to this is just go out and find some really bad players to punt so your regs who are grinding you a good income(as an agent) can keep doinf their thing and winning.Conversely you can find an agent that loses a shitload and put your crusher regs in thru his club. Youll have to cut him in a few points but its a good way to not get your whole club or downline booted
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12-16-2020 , 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by el_batong
You kick the biggest winners and there are new biggest winners. .
With the rake the way it is, the only way to have a high winrate relative to rake is extreme bumhunting.

Generally, assuming an agent has some balance of recs/regs, these are the only players that are ever removed.

What type of agent to allow is a whole other thing. I don't see any reason semi-private games must allow someone who brings only big winning cash game pros though.

There's no shortage of regs who want to play when a whale shows up, so it's debatable if such an agent adds anything to the ecosystem.

I don't think there's a requirement for an agent to have complete whales in most clubs. Just not having a group made up mostly of the sharpest and most predatory players is likely enough.
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12-16-2020 , 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by thejuggernaut
With the rake the way it is, the only way to have a high winrate relative to rake is extreme bumhunting.

Generally, assuming an agent has some balance of recs/regs, these are the only players that are ever removed.

What type of agent to allow is a whole other thing. I don't see any reason semi-private games must allow someone who brings only big winning cash game pros though.

There's no shortage of regs who want to play when a whale shows up, so it's debatable if such an agent adds anything to the ecosystem.

I don't think there's a requirement for an agent to have complete whales in most clubs. Just not having a group made up mostly of the sharpest and most predatory players is likely enough.
Strongly disagree with this. I guess its game dependant what winrates you can achieve. Im usually the one starting all the tables at the stakes I play and my winrate is ok when adding in the rake back. Past few weeks been starting 7 tables that runs way past i finish playing, this should be quite good for the unions as well. Personally raking 10k+ a week.

As I stated before my group consists of both regs and recs. The recs are my personal friends as well tho so Im kinda making sure they dont lose too much even tho they could easily afford it.

Bum hunting is definately not the only way you can win, depends on your skill level.
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12-17-2020 , 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by el_batong
Strongly disagree with this. I guess its game dependant what winrates you can achieve. Im usually the one starting all the tables at the stakes I play and my winrate is ok when adding in the rake back. Past few weeks been starting 7 tables that runs way past i finish playing, this should be quite good for the unions as well. Personally raking 10k+ a week.

As I stated before my group consists of both regs and recs. The recs are my personal friends as well tho so Im kinda making sure they dont lose too much even tho they could easily afford it.

Bum hunting is definately not the only way you can win, depends on your skill level.
If your downline isn't losing overall in terms of rake+winnings going to be hard to last as an agent in most of the main US PB Unions from my understanding.
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12-17-2020 , 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by pieceofcake
anyone know what happened to the spin thing where you could spin the wheel in order to win diamonds, or time banks or emoji things? I cant find it anywhere now
The Lucky Draw is back
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12-17-2020 , 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by kfas
The Lucky Draw is back
I was just coming here to say this, I am so close to enough diamonds for Bronze, come on 99 diamond spin !
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12-18-2020 , 12:13 AM
Hey guys srry i am new here can someone tell me what is up with pokerbros? what makes it better or different from ACR? someone sent me a message on FB saying there were a pokerbros club leader?
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12-18-2020 , 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by SunsetSherbert
Hey guys srry i am new here can someone tell me what is up with pokerbros? what makes it better or different from ACR? someone sent me a message on FB saying there were a pokerbros club leader?
I’ve been highly critical of Poker bro’s ..

With that said it’s a better option than WPN imo by a lot.

WPN has slow cash outs and is bot iinfested.

In poker bro’s just watch out for collusion but the games are way softer
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12-18-2020 , 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by rjr777
I’ve been highly critical of Poker bro’s ..

With that said it’s a better option than WPN imo by a lot.

WPN has slow cash outs and is bot iinfested.

In poker bro’s just watch out for collusion but the games are way softer
Agreed. Bovada and Pokerbros are about your only options if you are a US player. Both have issues but both have soft games. I prefer Bovada during football season but I am about to start back on Pokerbros.
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12-18-2020 , 03:04 PM
Is there a list of clubs to avoid? The club I signed up for back in march is gone.
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12-18-2020 , 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by mr.effoff
Is there a list of clubs to avoid? The club I signed up for back in march is gone.
I'm sure there are plenty to avoid. Halperin (2+2 poster in this thread) took care of a poster that wasn't even in his club, which is a pretty awesome thing to do. I've been with Halperin and two others and all three were great.
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12-18-2020 , 06:02 PM
Does anyone have experience with 400 & 1k at Eurobros
I dont think its collusion, but there are those random accounts that keep popping up who onetable me HU
They are very bad and will do stuff like 5betshove A8o, but its literally impossible to win a pot bigger than 10bb vs those accounts, Ive never seen anything like this
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12-18-2020 , 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by NINzent
Does anyone have experience with 400 & 1k at Eurobros
I dont think its collusion, but there are those random accounts that keep popping up who onetable me HU
They are very bad and will do stuff like 5betshove A8o, but its literally impossible to win a pot bigger than 10bb vs those accounts, Ive never seen anything like this
Im suspicious about this union, told my players to avoid until I have figured out whats going on. 5 card plo doesnt play true. Something is fishy. Got a really bad vibe. All accounts new pretty much. Ive seen stuff there that I have never seen anywhere else. Can pm me for more info.
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12-20-2020 , 03:13 AM
More and more problems with online poker these days. All networks such a shame.
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12-20-2020 , 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by NINzent
Does anyone have experience with 400 & 1k at Eurobros
I dont think its collusion, but there are those random accounts that keep popping up who onetable me HU
They are very bad and will do stuff like 5betshove A8o, but its literally impossible to win a pot bigger than 10bb vs those accounts, Ive never seen anything like this
I stopped playing there, and told my player to stop, although we were overall up a lot, the last 2-3 weeks every table look fishy and I couldn't win pot there played mainly 1k.
Some players under me also complained so we stopped, talked with some other agents and most of them stopped as well.
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12-20-2020 , 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by mosquito!
I stopped playing there, and told my player to stop, although we were overall up a lot, the last 2-3 weeks every table look fishy and I couldn't win pot there played mainly 1k.
Some players under me also complained so we stopped, talked with some other agents and most of them stopped as well.
I wish you posted that earlier, woudlve saved me a lot of money...
But yeah seems my suspicions are justified, thanks
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12-20-2020 , 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by NINzent
Does anyone have experience with 400 & 1k at Eurobros
I dont think its collusion, but there are those random accounts that keep popping up who onetable me HU
They are very bad and will do stuff like 5betshove A8o, but its literally impossible to win a pot bigger than 10bb vs those accounts, Ive never seen anything like this
Are you saying it’s rigged? Collusion is explainable, rigged is not. If one union can rig, all of them can.
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12-21-2020 , 12:22 AM
How do I get access to the biggest club out there? by biggest I mean most low stake nl games running
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