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02-04-2013 , 01:05 PM
So ridiculous
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02-04-2013 , 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Lessu
and you don't see a problem with this?
Why would that be a problem for Party, it's a freeroll for them?

EDIT: In case anyone doubts it, I do realize who's at the negative end of said freeroll.
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02-04-2013 , 03:03 PM
Party let someone play with a stolen credit card and punish other players who couldn't know about it. Come on; who's really surprised it happened on this site?
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02-04-2013 , 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Party_Rep
Hi,

The investigation of the PartyGaming fraud department about the issue on our French network is now over. All accounts that were temporarily blocked are now open.

We had to carry out these investigations in order to ensure fair play at our tables.

Part of the money won and lost by the fraudulent players has been taken back by our Fraud department and will be used to pay back the owners of stolen credit cards. According to French law, this has to be done by the poker room on which the deposits took place (PMU in this instance).

We have contacted the customers concerned directly and according to our terms and conditions we cannot reveal the details of our conclusions.

I can confirm that the only funds taken back from accounts were winnings from players using stolen credit cards and the rest of the bankroll has not been touched. Any rake paid when playing against the fraudulent player will also be paid back to players accounts.

Thanks

Party Poker
Hi,
Thank you for this attempt of poor communication, but this is complete bull*****.
Most of this post is totally wrong.

- The banks are the ones who are going to pay back the owners of the credit cards, not partypoker.

- Partypoker or the different skins may have to pay a chargeback from the banks, if they didn't bother to setup an insurance scheme, but in any case it is not the players who should take care of this situation, caused by partypoker total lack of control on the deposit and account creation processes.

- some accounts belonging to regulars are still locked, some of them being palladium elite players (is this how you treat your most valuable customers?), while at the same time some old fraudulent accounts are still playing. Your investigation is NOT over.

- your confirmation about the fund taken back is ridiculous. First of all, how can you seize money won fair and square on the tables, especially when money lost against a fraudulent account is not reimbursed. Secondly, pretty much all regs are complaining that partypoker sized MORE than what was won. It's even worse for some players who are net losers against the fraudulent accounts but still got decent sums confiscated. One reg says he lost 10k against the fraudulent accounts but his account was reopened with another 12k missing! Wtf?
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02-04-2013 , 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by FirstOut
I've no idea what you're talking about
The first time they ran this promo they didn't randomize it and column 3 ended with up all the rare cities.

Juk
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02-04-2013 , 03:40 PM
check if your vip countdown prizes have been awarded correctly cause I received 400$ and not 750$ this week neither the 1000$ extra for the every day 1000 pts

waiting support answer
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02-04-2013 , 04:50 PM
nvm last post I missed 1.2 pt last day ahaahhahah
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02-04-2013 , 05:18 PM
The Site should take some strong measures to act against such organized syndicate activities. As long as it punishes only the truly involved ones and let go of others, its fine and that is what Party did, in my humble opinion.
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02-04-2013 , 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by yop
Update on the french partypoker massive scam (although nobody seems to give a ****) :

- guy with 55K confiscated got the account re-opened... minus 35k (he says he won 25k against the fish).
- 2 guys got their account reopened as well, with far less than before. Both say they LOST against the fish.
- one guy claim he played 456 hands against the fish and won 2650€. They took 8k from his bankroll
- another one says he counted 30 different accounts all belonging to the same fish. He's a net loser against those accounts. Party says he played against only 15 fraudulent accounts and took 12k from his bankroll. They refuse to name the fraudulent accounts or to communicate any hand history.
- Not a single player got money back from party.
- The hacker/fish is still playing on party, playing with either an old account or a freshly created one.

As you can see from this pattern, partypoker is letting the fish play with fraudulent money and is doing nothing to stop him. Then they proceed to block all the normal players accounts that played against him and steal a lot of money, regardless of the real outcome of those encounters.
I followed this issue from very early days as I have some friends in France. They joined the festival when it was at its peak and played stake they never ventured. Few got lucky and ac or party did not touch them. There is some dramatization going on those forums and they people crying about a misdealt hand are not the most innocent.

I started a thread last month and their CS said they are looking into it etc. Nice that it is over.
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02-04-2013 , 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by opal
Party let someone play with a stolen credit card and punish other players who couldn't know about it. Come on; who's really surprised it happened on this site?
true but if it was the other way around (cheater winning) be sure that party would take the cheater's profits and distribute them equally to the players affected by him!
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02-04-2013 , 06:29 PM
party.fr shouldnt bring his aids itt
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02-04-2013 , 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Takeurcheezstfuplz
true but if it was the other way around (cheater winning) be sure that party would take the cheater's profits and distribute them equally to the players affected by him!
Was it supposed to be a sarcasm? It sounds like you really believe it...
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02-04-2013 , 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by jukofyork
The first time they ran this promo they didn't randomize it and column 3 ended with up all the rare cities.

Juk
maybe column 2 this time?
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02-04-2013 , 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by ParadoxPoker
The Site should take some strong measures to act against such organized syndicate activities. As long as it punishes only the truly involved ones and let go of others, its fine and that is what Party did, in my humble opinion.
Block all players east of Germany. Simples.

Juk
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02-04-2013 , 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Takeurcheezstfuplz
nvm last post I missed 1.2 pt last day ahaahhahah
Oh man that's gotta hurt

Can you not try and plead with support?

Juk
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02-04-2013 , 08:43 PM
Why the f do some tourney tables not pop up automatically when they start and I have to go looking for them and manually open the table.
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02-04-2013 , 11:51 PM
can we please have a real replayer in the client like stars and ftp?
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02-05-2013 , 07:13 AM
Is it me or have all the bounty and shootout tournaments been removed?

Not that they were any good...
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02-05-2013 , 09:53 AM
The HU tournaments appear to have been cut as well.
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02-05-2013 , 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by jukofyork
The first time they ran this promo they didn't randomize it and column 3 ended with up all the rare cities.

Juk
Ah, now I get you! I was referring to the lack of players/flop stat on the cash game listings so I got confuzzled.
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02-05-2013 , 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by yop
Hi,
Thank you for this attempt of poor communication, but this is complete bull*****.
Most of this post is totally wrong.

- The banks are the ones who are going to pay back the owners of the credit cards, not partypoker.

- Partypoker or the different skins may have to pay a chargeback from the banks, if they didn't bother to setup an insurance scheme, but in any case it is not the players who should take care of this situation, caused by partypoker total lack of control on the deposit and account creation processes.

- some accounts belonging to regulars are still locked, some of them being palladium elite players (is this how you treat your most valuable customers?), while at the same time some old fraudulent accounts are still playing. Your investigation is NOT over.

- your confirmation about the fund taken back is ridiculous. First of all, how can you seize money won fair and square on the tables, especially when money lost against a fraudulent account is not reimbursed. Secondly, pretty much all regs are complaining that partypoker sized MORE than what was won. It's even worse for some players who are net losers against the fraudulent accounts but still got decent sums confiscated. One reg says he lost 10k against the fraudulent accounts but his account was reopened with another 12k missing! Wtf?
Hi,

According to French law, the poker room on which fraudulent deposits took place (PMU here - not PartyPoker) have to pay back the banks. The banks will then pay the players. This is what you call "chargeback".
All fraudulent accounts are closed. The only remaining closed accounts have been called, and will be called again if they didn't pick up the phone, to explain the situation.

We cannot reveal the details of any specific accounts but we can confirm again that the amount seized match exactly the winnings against fraudulent players minus the rake paid.

Thanks,

PartyPoker
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02-05-2013 , 10:47 AM
What happens to the players that these rogue accounts won money from?
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02-05-2013 , 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ebffs
It's been many years since I played on Party and I've never had the client installed on my latest laptop.

Now I was planning to get some volume in but I'm having a pretty strange and frustrating problem that I can't figure out.

The issue is I can only see some of the tables that I know are running (a small fraction of those I can see running from checking the instant play web browser). The only solutions Party tech support has offered is to do a fresh install of the Party client software and to make sure my Adobe Flash/Active X is up to date. Both of these had no effect. As a further control, to check if it was a corrupt install of Party that was not being fixed by a reinstall (possibly due to some residual configuration files that I could not find and delete) I installed the WPT.com client (another skin on the same network and also the identical software).
It worked perfectly the first 3-4 times I loaded up the client. Now this morning, after loading it up, I see I'm already having the same problem with missing tables that I was having with the Party install. Also before installing WPT for the first time I tried uninstalling the Party client, deleting the left over Program files, then running a disc cleaner and registry cleaner before reinstalling fresh. So somehow it is my computer, consistently not working with 2 identical versions of this software, but I have no clue what could cause this kind of problem.

I was hoping Party tech support would be very knowledgeable about how the Party client software takes information from the server and relays it as table information in the lobby on my screen. Then we could trouble shoot wrt to what programs/setting/errors on my computer could be interfering with this process. Unfortunately it takes min 5 hrs if not 12-24 hours for every response from support. Each time getting almost nowhere because they seem to not bother reading my e-mails (key word search followed by cookie cutter canned response).

Anybody here with more computer/software knowledge have any idea what could be going on here?
Has anybody else experienced this kind of issue? If I didn't know people already playing on this network and/or double check the web browser instant play lobby, I would have just assumed the client was working properly and there simply wasn't a large player pool on the network.




Hi,

Please be advised that this issue only affects players that are logged in as play money players - this will not affect real money players.

Thanks

Party Poker
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02-05-2013 , 01:11 PM
i want to play huge amount of hands at partypoker but it feels very hard, here is why:

for every single table i start, here is what i need to do:

1) click wait for big blind
2) post big blind
3) post small blind (+ click ok), unless i was fast enough to click auto post blinds, which is close to impossible when masstabling with stack

that is 4 clicks for every table before I am in the process of continuous hand dealing

to someone this might seem like a small deal, but I don't want to spend a huge amount of time clicking buttons, when things like this should be automatic!

also for every time a table requires me to wait for big blind or to post my blinds, the action is stolen from the tables I already have up and running, causing me to fold hands if I don't act inhumanly quick! This is a huge issue, and you can't blame it on the players.


This is a enormous hassle just for me to sit down and play some poker, something must be done!

I would understand things like this if it was the year of 1998 and poker software just launched, but I can play 40 tables on pokerstars with a few mouseclicks in TOTAL, doing this on partypoker I need to click 40x4 -> 160 mouse clicks before I am sitting and playing.


You should make it at least manually selectable in options to "always wait for big blind", "always post blinds", it's a absolutely horrendous excuse to not have this as a option - all you do is chase away people who want to play poker without clicking hundred times before being able to.

And the very least you should make possible is to put in a "wait for big blind" box among with the "auto post blinds" boxes.

I have used computers all my life and I'm very quick at doing things - but partypoker makes me want to bang my head in to a wall with this ridicilous prompting of actions, at least give us the chance to just sit down and play poker!

I would play on partypoker insanely much if it didn't make a living hell for me to start up a session!

Also there is a bug when stacking tables, even if I got the box ticked to stay in focus until action is complete, suddenly another table can pop right up in front, and that's just insanely dangerous bug
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02-05-2013 , 02:20 PM
right based on my hits i make these the rarest for each country

France - Bordeaux
England - Nottingham
Russia - Saint Petersburg
Germany - Leverkusen

Argentina - Buenos Aires or Cordoba ?
Colombia - Bogota or Medellin ?
Canada - Vancouver
USA - Los Angeles

Japan - Yokohama
India - Bangalore
China - Shenzen
Soth Korea - Seoul

South Africa - Durban
Ghana - Kumasi
Ivory Coast - Yamoussoukro
Senegal - Saint-Louis



If anyone has these please post as it probably means you or me have a rare city. Exception being the 2 countries im unsure on obviously, but post to fill those in.
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