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10-09-2013 , 11:04 PM
just had such rebuy madness. played the whole game with about 18 players and Late Reg closes and there are 44 buy ins.

ppl were doing it on purpose to, starting the game with 8-6 BBs. after this tournament is over im gonna check these ppls stats and see if theyre losers gambling or winners who think they found a great strategy,
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10-09-2013 , 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by A_Schupick
While it may not be perfect what exactly is wrong with that solution? It's a lot better than any other alternative than they will consider.
But should the button-mashing donkfest be the most rational low buy in tournament on your site? I like it as is. I liked it better before.
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10-09-2013 , 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by goodsaint
The Nightly $11 had a $500 overlay tonight, whereas the guarantee was exceeded on Mon night. Just sayin...
Nightly $11 exceeded guarantee tonight. Second tourney since start time advanced to 6:30pm EST. The restructured schedule hasn't impacted me as much as many posters in this thread, as I'm still a 1 trick pony- low level mtt. So with a number of my favorite tournaments no longer available, I'm playing a few more satellites for bigger buyin coupons. Just sayin...
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10-10-2013 , 02:26 AM
one player who started with about 8 big blinds made it to the final table 2nd in chips so i asked him a few questions. Yes, he knew he was buying in super short, 6 ppl from the money; he did it on purpose. Yes, hes been looking for these opportunities and exploiting everyone he sees.

He said a few days after the schedule changed he noticed Late Reg was still open with only a few people from the bubble and thought it must be a mistake. A quote: "why wouldn't some1 buy in, fold 2 hands and double their money?"

He also told me it seemed too good to be true and he might as well exploit this as often as possible because SURELY Merge would notice and close such an obvious loophole very quickly.

But no, haven't closed it, haven't altered the absurd Late Reg times. I'll admit it wasn't so bad being a big stack late in a tournament and seeing all these people adding buy-in after buy-in to a prizepool they have little chance of getting a piece of, but it just does't feel right after playing one type (a ****ing normal one) of tournament for 2 hours then in the 15 minutes be4 late reg closes its a short stack shove-fest. its just wrong.
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10-10-2013 , 03:12 AM
Checked out the new schedule for the first time tonight. There seem to be more tournaments than before. But less tournaments worth playing than there were before. What is the point of running like thirty $100 guarantee tournaments every hour?

Also yeah this 4 hour late reg...
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10-10-2013 , 03:42 AM
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Originally Posted by thegroupie
Checked out the new schedule for the first time tonight. There seem to be more tournaments than before. But less tournaments worth playing than there were before. What is the point of running like thirty $100 guarantee tournaments every hour?

Also yeah this 4 hour late reg...
Yup it's garbage. THey need to consolidate back to a few decent tourneys. They cut out all the good rebuys too because omg like no rake on rebuys!
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10-10-2013 , 04:24 AM
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Originally Posted by thegroupie
Checked out the new schedule for the first time tonight. There seem to be more tournaments than before. But less tournaments worth playing than there were before. What is the point of running like thirty $100 guarantee tournaments every hour?

Also yeah this 4 hour late reg...
this.
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10-10-2013 , 04:28 AM
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Originally Posted by goodsaint
Nightly $11 exceeded guarantee tonight. Second tourney since start time advanced to 6:30pm EST. The restructured schedule hasn't impacted me as much as many posters in this thread, as I'm still a 1 trick pony- low level mtt. So with a number of my favorite tournaments no longer available, I'm playing a few more satellites for bigger buyin coupons. Just sayin...
im seeing this everywhere lately. wtf does adding "just saying" to the end of a post even mean? just looks ******ed. sry /rant
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10-10-2013 , 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by ih8ustfu
im seeing this everywhere lately. wtf does adding "just saying" to the end of a post even mean? just looks ******ed. sry /rant
Bill Maher has something to say about it last week:

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New Rules: October 4, 2013
October 7, 2013
Every week, Bill lays down his own laws. Here is the latest set of New Rules from the last episode:

New Rule: If you end your tweet with the words "Just sayin'," then you've just tweeted something incredibly sh*tty.

No one ever tweets, "Had a nice lunch with my sister. Just sayin'." It's always, "Mexicans are what's wrong with this country. Just sayin'." How about this? You drop the "just sayin'" and we'll go ahead and assume that's what you were just saying based on the fact that you just said it.
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10-10-2013 , 06:23 AM
Further evidence that Bill Maher is awesome.
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10-10-2013 , 01:01 PM
A few thoughts:

Get the old schedule out, and put back in the 2,3, or 4 favorite tournaments that ran every few hours. Run unlimited re-entries until antes , then close registration to new players, but allow continued re-entries for bustouts another few levels. Its a little incentive for players who have invested time already.

Do whatever possible to get these favorites going with the best possible guarantees and stabilize the churning of players away from the site.

Re-entries at or near the bubble, with a double up getting you in the money. What a gimmick. This is going to wear off real fast.
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10-10-2013 , 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by ih8ustfu
im seeing this everywhere lately. wtf does adding "just saying" to the end of a post even mean? just looks ******ed. sry /rant
this is a really constructive post. just saying...
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10-10-2013 , 02:54 PM
More MTT News:


The Nightly $11 has changed times due to west coast players having difficulties. It has been moved up by 45 minutes to better accommodate everyone.

A new Nightly 6-Max $5K Gtd $22 buy-in at 17:30 was added to the schedule.

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Kahn
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10-10-2013 , 04:06 PM
cashout on ph said money has to go back to debit card around 500.recieved 160 of it 10 days ago still waiting on the rest.is this normal?and how long does it usually take?original cashout was 9/30 got the 160 on 10/2 still no more of it though.is it because other deposits were awhile back?
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10-10-2013 , 04:08 PM
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The Nightly $11 has changed times due to west coast players having difficulties. It has been moved up by 45 minutes to better accommodate everyone.

A new Nightly 6-Max $5K Gtd $22 buy-in at 17:30 was added to the schedule.

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Kahn
Good stuff. Now hopefully they add a 15 $ nightly.
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10-10-2013 , 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by kahntrutahn
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The Nightly $11 has changed times due to west coast players having difficulties. It has been moved up by 45 minutes to better accommodate everyone.

A new Nightly 6-Max $5K Gtd $22 buy-in at 17:30 was added to the schedule.

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Kahn
Good news on the $22 6max.

But with respect to the $11 Nightly, they need to either stop trying to accommodate both coasts, or change the structure. There's no way that you can have a nightly with 4hr late reg and over 1k runners and please everyone. With the current structure that mtt is gonna run 11 hours no matter what.
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10-10-2013 , 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by m3th0d1c4l
this is a really constructive post. just saying...
Thks Flop. Took words out my mouth. That said, sitting 1 out of 24 in 12:30pm EST $11 Deep Stack. Bible study w/son in 1hr. Oh, my. What's a fellow to do? Just askin...
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10-10-2013 , 05:01 PM
So is SB/PO just basically done with MTTs, or are they going to eventually go back to somewhat of a normal schedule? I played them once in awhile, but now there literally aren't any to play worth anybodys time, especially during the day. At night, they have a few guaranteed ones that im guessing are still sharing the player pool of the entire network.
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10-10-2013 , 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by kahntrutahn
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The Nightly $11 has changed times due to west coast players having difficulties. It has been moved up by 45 minutes to better accommodate everyone.

A new Nightly 6-Max $5K Gtd $22 buy-in at 17:30 was added to the schedule.

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Kahn
glad to see a nightly $22 & even happier that it is a 6max.... sweet

Really wish/think carbon should bring back the noon deepstacks $33/$22/$60

Also think everyone really misses the mid afternoon 11R deepstack that was 15k starting

-dex
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10-10-2013 , 05:24 PM
Im in agreement with everyone about the late reg issue. But I think the far bigger concern is the obliteration of the schedule, particularly the guaranteed offered. Like orders of magnitude bigger.

I have some sympathy for what they're dealing with I guess, but this is the kind of tectonic change that begins a vicious cycle. If they dont improve things soon, they may never be able to dig out of this hole.
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10-10-2013 , 05:47 PM
I just wish the morning games (7 AM-noonish) would go back to the way they were. There use to be multiple 500s, 750s, and 1k gtds that ran everyday and never had overlay. Now there is ONE $11 $250 gtd at 6AM and then maybe one or two at 10 AM that sometimes run. The rest are pitiful $25 and $50 gtds that are about pointless to play.
Use to grind the morning games everyday on my days off, not really any point in it now though. C'moooooon merge
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10-10-2013 , 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by juicestain100
I just wish the morning games (7 AM-noonish) would go back to the way they were. There use to be multiple 500s, 750s, and 1k gtds that ran everyday and never had overlay. Now there is ONE $11 $250 gtd at 6AM and then maybe one or two at 10 AM that sometimes run. The rest are pitiful $25 and $50 gtds that are about pointless to play.
Use to grind the morning games everyday on my days off, not really any point in it now though. C'moooooon merge
This big time. Used to be 18-20 hours a day where you could grind a semi-decent LSMTT session. Now there are like 2 hours a day where this is possible, and even then the schedule is not very appealing.
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10-10-2013 , 06:32 PM
lol tonight's new nightly $22 6-max is playing 9-handed

EDIT: it just got shutdown midgame
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10-10-2013 , 06:46 PM
I have not read more than the last two pages of this thread but I would like to know why exactly the plan was to water down the schedule instead of building on the pretty good foundation that already existed. The structures were great and the overall selection was super solid from what I thought. It gave every tier of grinder something to play and I didn't see the point of rocking the boat. But instead of listing of a laundry list of complaints I will try to make a few solidified points.

- You took probably your two best morning tourneys and made them a shell of what they were. $11, $33, and $60 deepstacks (the $11 and $33 had 20 min levels) were just a great way to wake up and load. Mixing in the other $22 and $11's along with some 5rs and 3rs was great because it just kept tables up. Now there is only the $11 and the $33, both gtds were slashed down to 1K and the levels are only 15 mins with no $60 and very little $3-$22 stuff worth playing. Merge has now made it pretty useless for any grinder to wake up and load tables because now there are only about 5 good tourneys to play in a 4 hour span, seriously WTF?

-Removing tourneys that players really liked is just an insult to the core tourney customer base. If you thought the schedule didn't have much to offer before what does breaking up every tourney into smaller bastardized versions of a real tourney do for anyone? Why do they think these tourneys are cancelling themselves? They had the a super sexy $11r deeps,m why not expand on that with a $22, $33 and maybe even $60 one? Instead they drop formats that most grinder drool over and put nothing worth while into replace it.

-The VIP system, I mean what else is there to say? 20K points at Carbon VIP $700 cash monthly. Most grinders were probably close to if not getting that and now we're all hoping we get an invite to the top tier without any real way of knowing how to obtain it. I have 60K in points I was planning on turning into $2100 but now I just have 60K points that right now don't mean much of anything.

-Lastly, I get the impression we're supposed to be thankful for these changes because in the long run the schedule will fill out and we will all be happy. Anyone that knows how Merge works knows this could take months if not a full year to happen. Yet I'm supposed to open my arms and give this new schedule a big hug and cup Merge's balls for looking out for me. Why not e-mail your most active customers and see what is really going on and what could be improved instead of doing whatever it is that happened.


Brovada seems like a tempting offer but anonymous tables are about as sketchy as it gets imo and not being able to use a HUD from a grinder perspective is laughable. WPN would be decent and they have a great cashout system but their schedule is seriously lacking. I never thought I'd be sitting at a point in my life where I would be saying," I just wish Carbon Poker would put their old schedule back out!" But I guess that's where poker is at these days
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10-10-2013 , 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by juicestain100
I just wish the morning games (7 AM-noonish) would go back to the way they were. There use to be multiple 500s, 750s, and 1k gtds that ran everyday and never had overlay. Now there is ONE $11 $250 gtd at 6AM and then maybe one or two at 10 AM that sometimes run. The rest are pitiful $25 and $50 gtds that are about pointless to play.
Use to grind the morning games everyday on my days off, not really any point in it now though. C'moooooon merge
That little $dazz- $50 guarantee @ 10am-est plays as a satellite for me. Bink it & able to take shot @ $11 Deep Stack. Four left @ FT. Son upset by me missing Bible study. Had no problem with me taking poker cashout 2yrs ago and giving it to him for a car. Just sayin...
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