Been over 48 hours since I requested my MG max payout, still has not been approved . Not to mention my check still hasn't cleared and it's day 7

Nothing wrong with bank. Probably not enough history on the account is my guess. I would call the bank and ask what the holdup is. Bovada will only refund the money to your account if you give them a copy of the first uncleared check I think

just got hit by the dreaded "we will no longer send you bank wires since you're a known poker player" email. Unreal.

Ugh. Did they give you any more information on what you can do? I was told this too last week. I called again today and they said I need to open a corporate account and that he (the customer service rep) said it should be at a different bank from any personal accounts I have. He said they might be able to do it if it's the same bank, but he wasn't sure...

I would really like to hear from anyone doing this with an incorporated bank account. Couldn't this link you to violating some kind of laws? Since it is a corporate account and supposed to be linked to some sort of legitimate business? When it is not and its pulling all of its money from a gaming website isn't this some sort of fraud? There are def some legal considerations to take into account before doing what they suggest in their email.

Got hit with a $320 loss on my last max wire. I'm sticking to checks I think.

Hmm, that's a good question. Does anyone else have any thoughts on this?

This probably isn't the right thread but maybe someone here has come across this before.

I just tried depositing on Bovada today and my card was declined. I got an email from my credit card company and they wanted me to confirm if it was me or if it was some kind of fraud activity, so I confirmed that it was just me. Not long after that I got a text message saying the same thing and asking me to confirm that I made the transaction or if it was fraud activity. So I confirmed again. I few minutes after that they replied Thank You and said they may need to call me for additional questions. What do I tell them it was?

Maybe call Bovada and see what they suggest.

You made an internet purchase. Shouldn't have to say more than that. They just want to confirm that it was you.

i've had to deal a lot with declined transactions when trying to make deposits with a bank debit card. either it's the automated systems of visa fraud prevention or the bank, that are to blame, cause they flag the deposit transaction that is going through an international processor. you just have to confirm you are making it and the next time try twice or thrice in a row if you again get declined, or try at another time or the next day, etc., till you succeed.

also there's the verified by visa service, it might ask you to sign up after you try to make a deposit, you can skip it the first two times, and then be forced to sign up the third time, so then do so and find the visa site for your card and cancel the service to see if that helps with the declined transactions. you can also call bovada and have them make the deposit since they don't get the signup page i think.

In general, there are plenty of "legitimate" purchases that will be based overseas, and also have "discrete" billing descriptors.

for example, you purchase something like a water bong, giant purple dildo, or some live webcam shows on a porn site....they usually offer discrete billing so your wife doesn't open up the CC bill and see you blowing your savings on "PURPLEDILDOS.COM" or "RUSSIANWEBCAMSLUTS" or "CANNABIS-STORE".



so yeah if your asked to verify a purchase dont worry....obviously with these poker sites we won't always know what the billing descriptor will be and sometimes this will set off alarm bells etc....just tell them it was an online purchase that's private and that its supposed to use discrete billing, then let them know the $$ amount of the purchase.

just make sure to NEVER mention poker or gambling!

I have recently requested a pay out and Bovada tells me I need to send in the credit card verification form. But the card they are giving me is not one I have used on my account. This is after multiple withdraws with the same account. Any suggestions?

Would also like some input on the legal ramifications of opening a business account to receive wires from bovada.

Curious if anyone has gotten the no more wires email and not been using B*** of A*****?

I got the email 2 or 3 days ago, and had multiple wires returned to my account. I'd just been given the option to wire a couple weeks ago and received only 1 before having it taken away.

If anyone gets more info from bovada regarding this, please post!

I had similar concerns so I contacted three well known online gaming attorneys, two of whom have written books on online gaming law. The first one I contacted said I would not be taking on additional legal risk by using a corporate account. The other two, however, were extremely adamant that I should not do so. They said that using a non-gaming related corporation to help a gambling site evade authorities would make you complicit in money laundering and fraud. The penalties for this could be severe.

See that's what I was saying. What the other 2 attorneys said would concern me a great deal. Obviously Bovada doesn't care about the legal ramifications for you. They only care about moving the funds.... Still love to hear more...

Anyone here with experience getting a bank wire made to blue bank that rhymes with race? Been receiving checks the till now but want to try out bank wire since the past few checks have been bouncing...

from cali

No issues for me

4chainz you think you can PM me...I don't know exactly what I should be putting for the bank address and swift code, wanna make sure this transaction goes as smooth as possible. thanks

Just sent you pm. Just use your local branch address and any major banks swift code is available online.

Was using it for months with many cashouts now wire transfer has been removed from my account what's up with this?

this is useful information for other players in the same situation...you should ask the first lawyer why he disagrees with the other 2 you consulted.

also I'm not sure how everyone else feels about this...but I almost feel like we shouldn't continue this discussion inside the thread anymore for some of the reasons you just mentioned. i feel like this is a bit similar to posting a specific bank name or check details...i'm sure if Bovada has recommended this to a couple of you guys then there are already people out there who are doing this.

Many people who are known poker players are having same thing happen. Hope my limited hendon mob doesn't make me one.

I posted for the sole reason of warning other forum members who might not be aware of possible legal ramifications. They can do their own research and make a decision on what path to pursue. Bovada has offered other solutions not involving the use of a corporation that may be more palatable.

The reason people do not put bank names is to reduce the chances that a bank representative googles her bank name and finds information in the thread that would help her identify gambling transactions. There is already more than enough information in this thread to incriminate Bovada with the government if they weren't already sufficiently incriminated so I don't think we need to worry about that.

thats my point....we dont want to incriminate Bovada unnecessarily either.

anyways your post was fine...its informative and def helpful for other players.
I'm just saying it may not be the best idea to openly discuss something that crosses into being "complicit in money laundering and fraud." maybe you won't need to cross that line, but I'm sure there are players including 2+2ers who are already doing this because they need to continue pulling off large wires(from binks/heaters, people playing higher stakes, etc).

that may also be true...but im almost certain the main reason we dont get too specific with check info/bank names...is to help prevent things like gov't agencies from busting processors, or for the banks themselves to stop accepting their checks/wires.

anyways its not my call, just don't want to give any LEO's easy access to incriminating information that they may not have known about(especially in certain states).