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11-28-2014 , 06:00 PM

#22176

HiDesertAce

journeyman

Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 249

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Originally Posted by JohnnyApp

I respect your response since I do love the game, but by the hands that you see me encountering, in same sessions, not cherry picking sessions, how can I not be extremely skeptical. over 500,000 hands.
It's not like i'm just running below ev with KK's, it's all situations.

first off yr playing small stakes. move up where they will respect yr shoves. you are way more likley to get sucked out on in the micros where quite frankly losing a $10 all in just lol to most people. so yes they are going to call all in with their k 10 not really giving an f if they lose 10 bucks. might not happen with a $100 stack or more.

also, as another poster said, fold pre.

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11-28-2014 , 06:03 PM

#22177

maad-nervous

centurion

Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 112

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyApp

Hey man, I get it, sometimes we run soooo bad it just seems unreal. I once had a blowup after playing a couple back to back 2 day sessions and totally freaked out in the rigged thread. I weathered the storm and things got back to normal. Use your intelligence to fight those feelings. We've all had runs like yours.

the game is much harder than it used to be. We're rarely getting the free money like the old days. So when we run bad, it's baaaad, since we don't have the free money to make up for it.

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11-28-2014 , 06:03 PM

#22178

Malefiicus

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 6,417

Sometimes you run bad. I've had years where I was 80bi under expectation, a good friend of mine had a year where he was over 100bi under ev. We still had good years, since we beat the games well enough, but it's pretty hard to handle when you expect to, and do lose every hand unless you've got the nuts. But that doesn't mean the games are rigged, when there's 100k players on a site, and 10 percent of them are running unimaginably bad, that's 10,000 players who math is going to screw. It's not that rare.

At the end of the day though, you just need to understand what variance is. http://www.nsdpoker.com/2011/03/nlhe_6m_pros/ http://pokerdope.com/poker-variance-calculator/

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11-28-2014 , 06:06 PM

#22179

JohnnyApp

centurion

Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 100

Quote:

Originally Posted by HiDesertAce

Your coment makes no sense, I get so tired of people posting how they would play. You're not acknowledging the odds and ev I had. Your statement is a cop out statement.

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11-28-2014 , 06:09 PM

#22180

pwnsall

CFBBPC

Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 67,116

deposited some for the bonus but not sure how much i should do

right now did 1600 kinda want to do do a bunch more tho

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11-28-2014 , 06:10 PM

#22181

maad-nervous

centurion

Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 112

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyApp

Your coment makes no sense, I get so tired of people posting how they would play. You're not acknowledging the odds and ev I had. Your statement is a cop out statement.

I agree that his reply is useless. Everytime I hear the "go play where they respect shoves" comment, I immediately know that person is a fish. The reply just above yours hits it on the nail. Discuss these things with intelligent players, not only will it improve your game but also your emotional control.

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11-28-2014 , 06:10 PM

#22182

lingerfelter95

centurion

Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 176

^Can someone ban this guy? Stop clogging up this thread with your lol bad beats.

"I lost 8 all ins--must be rigged."

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11-28-2014 , 06:12 PM

#22183

pwnsall

CFBBPC

Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 67,116

oh right i reached the credit card limit, well i guess that is it

pretty good deal tho

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11-28-2014 , 06:28 PM

#22184

daedalus 9

adept

Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 772

Is there a max on this bonus?

So 300 points to clear each $100 I'm getting from this thread.

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11-28-2014 , 07:16 PM

#22185

TheFunBegins

adept

Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 707

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeBuzzsaw

For all them players who keep asking for reload bonus... Friday is your time to do it. 20% bonus on reloads.

http://www.bovada.lv/sports/content/...y-reload-bonus

I tried to get this bonus but I was told on phone they don't have it. They also told me they are not associated with Bovada. I was under the impression Bodog/Bovada are the same company. When I asked if they shared the same player pools for poker he said no.

Am I missing something here? I always thought they were one and the same?

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11-28-2014 , 07:42 PM

#22186

Ice_W0lf

Tremendous

Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 13,587

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Originally Posted by TheFunBegins

They share the same pool, but they can offer different promotions.

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11-28-2014 , 08:11 PM

#22187

tradenine

adept

Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 946

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Originally Posted by DDBeast

Regarding the bonus, I got a much better informed CS rep. He confirmed with the higher ups, that you only have to clear points on the bonus amount (not deposit+bonus). The bonus is added instantly but you can't cashout until it's cleared. You have no way of knowing if it's cleared or not on your end, but you can call support and they can tell you your progress.

i was told on two separate calls that rollover applies to dep and bonus, as were u apparently the first time u called. 3 reps say one thing, then the fourth says what u reported above... what to believe?

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11-28-2014 , 08:11 PM

#22188

GoDeViLs

veteran

Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 3,491

People posting hand histories in here should be infracted

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11-28-2014 , 08:14 PM

#22189

tradenine

adept

Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 946

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Originally Posted by dark_horse

You can't cash out anything, or you just can't cash out the bonus?

If you deposit via Visa, does the bank treat it as a cash advance? Kind of defeats the purpose if I'm hit with a 4.9% fee, and then a 10% fee from the credit card lol.

what bovada rep told me: cant cash out anything

bank treats visa transaction like normal shopping, not cash advance, im almost positive

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11-28-2014 , 08:18 PM

#22190

tradenine

adept

Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 946

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Originally Posted by vookenmeister

well crap. how do they handle it if you withdraw before you play through the whole amount then? I did two separate $1K deposits to get the max $400 triggered.
I was expecting to run about 160 $50 DoNs through it (14-18 hours of play) and then withdraw. That would mean I have to now play 6X as much?

If I bail early and withdraw how do they figure out which piece of the bonus is credited? I guess I will keep my eye on what happens and learn from it.

i was told that if u want to w/d before necessary points are earned, u can call them and they will cancel the bonus if it is more than 30% of requested cashout amount, thereby letting you cashout.

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11-28-2014 , 08:24 PM

#22191

MikeBuzzsaw

journeyman

Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 244

There is a $400 bonus cap?

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11-28-2014 , 08:42 PM

#22192

tradenine

adept

Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 946

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Originally Posted by MikeBuzzsaw

There is a $400 bonus cap?

it seems there is a 2k cap on credit/debit card deposits per day, ie $400 bonus cap on cc deposits. u could deposit up to $800 via moneygram as well tho, if that is an option for your account.

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11-28-2014 , 08:45 PM

#22193

tradenine

adept

Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 946

i just called bovada for a third time re. the bonus, and unlike the first two times in which i was explicitly told the rollover applies to both deposit and bonus, this time i was told what ddbeast was told on his second call - that rollover applies to bonus only. the rep says he confirmed this with a manager, and that the previous two reps must have been confused.
lol wtf

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11-28-2014 , 09:01 PM

#22194

vookenmeister

old hand

Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,736

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Originally Posted by tradenine

Cool. Thanks again. It makes more sense like this. I can only assume that you can still withdraw at any time. Only difference is that the moment you withdraw you no longer can accumulate additional bonus (and only receive what you are already earned)

That's how it's been most everywhere else (with the exception of Lock back in 2012 that let you keep accumulating even when you withdrew)

PS. Pls no more "rigged" posts here. Start your own thread.

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11-28-2014 , 09:41 PM

#22195

tradenine

adept

Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 946

Wow......

I just called bovada for a 4th! time today for help with another issue, and the rollover thing once again came up at the end of the conversation. This time I was absolutely guaranteed by the rep, before and after checking with his supervisor, that the rollover applies to both the deposit and bonus :O