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10-01-2014 , 12:22 AM
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10-01-2014 , 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluntster
So does bovada still service virginia? I can't load lobby anymore on comps or phone. What gives?
I play from VA still works for me.
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10-01-2014 , 04:52 AM
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Originally Posted by iPlayPLOhigh
Casuals will make less mistakes preflop.

they are trying to force Zoom on players to pad their bottom line.
first part is not true in my experience, they still call the same crap range preflop as before. (heck, it might be worse as often there's quite a few who won't fold about anything in the BB if you raise it) Unless you're saying it's b/c it's 6 max instead of they used to wander into a FR game, which is right from a pf % standpoint.

second part is obviously true. It's a rake festival.
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10-01-2014 , 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by wheatrich
first part is not true in my experience, they still call the same crap range preflop as before. (heck, it might be worse as often there's quite a few who won't fold about anything in the BB if you raise it) Unless you're saying it's b/c it's 6 max instead of they used to wander into a FR game, which is right from a pf % standpoint.

second part is obviously true. It's a rake festival.
The worst players won't play any different, but the slightly bad players are going to play better, at least preflop. There is a lot more slightly bad players than there is complete fish and having them play tighter isn't going to help your winrate. Just my experience playing Rush/Zoom/Zone. I'm interested in others thoughts on that.
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10-01-2014 , 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Abe Schmuckfeld
yep the zero reads really reduces the skill. at least when you at a table with a guy for even 10 hands you have some sort of idea as to how he plays. Zone sucks balls. bodog is the biggest bumhunter on the net the terrible lines they give in there book to fish is laughable. They utterly destroy the public betting donks with beyond horrible skewed lines, They have these donks laying -140 and **** while skewing the points against them too.
If they are skewing points then why don't you just bet the other side? I don't think that zone poker is that bad. You get way more volume from it than regular cash tables. I can usually identify fish by the way they play a hand. There are several general assumptions that I make from seeing how most people play. And they have been running 1/2 pretty consistently lately which is a move in the right direction. It would be nice if you could track people on zone poker though.
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10-01-2014 , 01:10 PM
anyone ever play with me? i play kinda loose and usually #4 or #6 have been my most common seats.
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10-01-2014 , 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 5thStreetHog
Most successful poker players use tracking programs and keep records on every hand they play. Collectively we have millions of hands that show no such thing. We consider these millions of hands precisely gathered by highly efficient collection programs superior as evidence to a fair deal than the scribblings supposedly accurately depicting a few hands that some random disgruntled losing player put on a notebook one week to prove the deal is rigged.

Does that not seem reasonable to you? Or would you argue that your homemade notebook, even assuming what you wrote in it those few days is accurate which is highly doubtful to say the least, is a superior source of information?
Awesome you must be all knowing considering you KNOW What's in my collected data notebook. You also KNOW what type of player I'am. You KNOW whether or not I use poker tracker software. Assume much? Please direct me to the million hands anlyzed on Bovada? Can you email it to me?? PDF file? Website?
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10-01-2014 , 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyApp
Awesome you must be all knowing considering you KNOW What's in my collected data notebook. You also KNOW what type of player I'am. You KNOW whether or not I use poker tracker software. Assume much? Please direct me to the million hands anlyzed on Bovada? Can you email it to me?? PDF file? Website?
Based on your posts I'm pretty sure I know exactly what type of player you are.
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10-01-2014 , 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyApp
Awesome you must be all knowing considering you KNOW What's in my collected data notebook. You also KNOW what type of player I'am. You KNOW whether or not I use poker tracker software. Assume much? Please direct me to the million hands anlyzed on Bovada? Can you email it to me?? PDF file? Website?
Illuminati tho
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10-01-2014 , 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyApp
Awesome you must be all knowing considering you KNOW What's in my collected data notebook. You also KNOW what type of player I'am. You KNOW whether or not I use poker tracker software. Assume much? Please direct me to the million hands anlyzed on Bovada? Can you email it to me?? PDF file? Website?
I have close to a million hand sample on Bovada & it sure seems legit to me.

Last edited by iPlayPLOhigh; 10-01-2014 at 03:48 PM. Reason: Ok, it's only 800K hands, I'll report back on legitimacy once I reach mirrion
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10-01-2014 , 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyApp
Awesome you must be all knowing considering you KNOW What's in my collected data notebook. You also KNOW what type of player I'am. You KNOW whether or not I use poker tracker software. Assume much? Please direct me to the million hands anlyzed on Bovada? Can you email it to me?? PDF file? Website?
Gasp, the shocking truth will break down the shackles of the sheepish masses and allow a revolution of prosperity and truth into this godforsaken hellscape known as online poker. All thanks be to the mighty JohnnyApp, who has finally taken up his mantle as our purveyor of truth. The words passed down through the "Data Notebook" shall open the eyes of the nonbelievers and strike fear into the hearts of the deceivers, thus it is written, thus it shall be.

Or you just ran bad and overreacted because you don't understand math.
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10-01-2014 , 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by BK1248
anyone ever play with me? i play kinda loose and usually #4 or #6 have been my most common seats.
That was you? pretty sure you stacked me today.
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10-01-2014 , 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by iPlayPLOhigh
I have close to a million hand sample on Bovada & it sure seems legit to me.
I have a bit over half million hands and it seems to be fine as well.
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10-01-2014 , 06:34 PM
i dont think i've hit a set for my last 20 or so pp
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10-01-2014 , 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by lambo4bkfast
i dont think i've hit a set for my last 20 or so pp
Rigged
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10-01-2014 , 07:20 PM
I had a sandwich for lunch today. It was tasty.

Actually, they always are. I'm beginning to think my sandwiches are rigged.
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10-01-2014 , 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
I had a sandwich for lunch today. It was tasty.

Actually, they always are. I'm beginning to think my sandwiches are rigged.
11.7% of the time my bread is stale, but I have gone months stale free.
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10-01-2014 , 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
I had a sandwich for lunch today. It was tasty.

Actually, they always are. I'm beginning to think my sandwiches are rigged.
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Originally Posted by Auto Matic
11.7% of the time my bread is stale, but I have gone months stale free.
I've eaten close to 100k sandwiches and in my experience sandwich makers aren't trying to kill me.
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10-01-2014 , 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
I had a sandwich for lunch today. It was tasty.

Actually, they always are. I'm beginning to think my sandwiches are rigged.
Statistically speaking, it's impossible for them always to be good, has to be rigged. Have you went over your sandwich database and ran any sims in PST? (pro sandwich tools)

You probably only keep track of your sandwiches in a notebook, noob.
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10-01-2014 , 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by iPlayPLOhigh
More hands doesn't = more money.
Actually it most likely does.
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10-01-2014 , 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by stlcardinals
Actually it most likely does.
You don't get it either, nice work.

If more hands always = more money then why do the players that play less hands than anyone else have 5x+ (obv not in all cases) the win rate? Riddle me that.

Last edited by iPlayPLOhigh; 10-01-2014 at 07:54 PM.
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10-01-2014 , 08:00 PM
Does anyone have an idea why I can open the client, but whenever I open a table the client freezes and crashes?

I've talked to Bovada customer service five different times and they always have me try the same things over and over which never work. They have now told me they don't know what else to do and I should call Microsoft for help lol

I have AVG as my virus software and just the normal windows firewall on windows 7

Thanks
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10-01-2014 , 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by RobBizzle
Does anyone have an idea why I can open the client, but whenever I open a table the client freezes and crashes?

I've talked to Bovada customer service five different times and they always have me try the same things over and over which never work. They have now told me they don't know what else to do and I should call Microsoft for help lol

I have AVG as my virus software and just the normal windows firewall on windows 7

Thanks
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Originally Posted by cashjunkie
KrakenUO,

Take the Bovada software off your computer, search "bovada" in your start up menu search box and remove all the set up files and stuff that shows up

Empty your trash can of the stuff you just deleted so nothing is on your system

Clean out your cache by going to the history tab on your browser and selecting "clear history" then select only the "cache" box and then click clear history.

Then search "disk clean up" in your start menu and perform that function.

Then load AVAST free security software, disable or remove any other security software, and run a "boot time scan" (can take a while,like over an hour, so be patient) Avast's boot time scan is pretty much the only computer security software that starts a scan even before the computer's OS boots up, and it's free.

Then do a defragmentation of the hard drive - Defragmentation can also be searched for in the Start Menu. Defrags can take a long time, depending how much stuff is on your computer (45 minutes to an hour)

then reload Bovada

You'll be good to go!!

It's probably just a file in your cache and if you just did that and the disk clean up that may be enough, but I HIGHLY RECOMMEND you take the time and do everything!

The stuff you said you did (reset router, change IP address etc.) wouldn't solve the problem, but then, you already know that!

I had similar problems followed these steps and have not had any problems since
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10-01-2014 , 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by iPlayPLOhigh
You don't get it either, nice work.

If more hands always = more money then why do the players that play less hands than anyone else have 5x+ (obv not in all cases) the win rate? Riddle me that.
by winrate, do you mean $/bb?
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10-01-2014 , 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by AllJackedUp
by winrate, do you mean $/bb?
bb/100
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