People fold out of turn all the time. But not pros in a super important spot at the final table of a 50k.

I am now convinced it was an angle based on comments from Dan Smith, Ike and Harlabob

Well if the angle gained him 300-500k and is not any consequence then Probably worth while

Pretty hard to just assume poker players are going to be honest

That's not how it works. I don't even think it was an "angle" ie not done on purpose... and it didn't cost/gain 300-500k cmon man be realistic maybe 50 tops. High roller player of the year rep worth 50k? flllluck outta here

I thought it was final table 4 handed ?

Edit: he gained 200k by moving up 1spot

Do you honestly think Sam would do such a thing? I mean he had an online screen name KingNig so he definitely holds himself to very high standard.

in this video the moment in which he does the open raise does not appear, it is funny, bc he forgets a chip. This shows that he was not very concentrated

Actually it gives the impression that Heath folded, in fact it seems that Heath does it on purpose to confuse, and he is the one who tells Sam that he is missing a chip when doing the OR, I do not know why he thinks so much anyway, but maybe the detail of the OR has something to do and unconsciously try to confuse Sam, who obviously was not very focused .



the detail of the open raise is too important to not appear in the video, this is rigged lol

?????????? That's not how it works... I don't think it was an angle but if it was he only gets an advantage when

Guy calls with a range he usually wouldn't, I can't imagine its more than 20k. As played it changed nothing

Did they actually let that slide with no penalty?

This should be a hefty penalty. DQ is fine if you can prove it was intentional, but you can't. Multi-round penalty and a short WSOP ban seems appropriate to me.

seriously, look at the complete sequence in pokergo repetition. It is clear that Heath provokes this situation by purposely question for time in a way that seems to be folding, after asking him to count his chips, and knowing that he is still placing them. It is so obvious ... (It really is Sam's fault anyway, what I want to say is that he does not intentionally)

I do not know how to record my screen if I had not already done it

Not an intentional angle imo. That’s pretty bold of all those pros to slander Sam like that. Ike has never seemed like a serious live reads expert anyway lol

2-3 orbit penalty

doesnt look 100% intentional..... i can see why yurasov was upset, is he the same yurasov from pokerstars? his screen name? one of the supernova elites i think right?

for sure!

Sam Soverel is a known angleshooter it was 100% intentional, he is banned from several casinos

good read from Ike if he didnt know the guy

It did look like Heath just folded and he just snap-folds after. I don't think he was paying attention. He made a mistake.

For me it is very clear that Heath causes this situation intentionally and don´t know why nobody says it. He asks for time in another way in other hands, not dragging the chip quickly like a fold, it is also evident that he knows that Sam is placing his chips at that moment. He also knows that Sam can´t see his cards bc the chips amount.

Probably he thought that with luck he could eliminate two rivals and be HU in that hand if it went well and Wsop penalized Sam with the 3rd place or worse.

He also looks much more embarrassed and less surprised than Sam at all times.

He also knows that sam is not too much focused bc what i say that the Open Raise (what not appear in that video)

And if is true what Xenoblade says, Heath can know that Sam did it more times...

Fake News. Name one casino he is banned from. There aren't any. Sam needles and trolls everyone. It's coming back to bite him in the ass right now. He can be an ******* at the table with his attempts at humor, but he is in no way a cheater. I believe 100% this is an honest mistake. You think he would risk his reputation, trying this angle for the first time on a live stream with thousands of viewers??

It was a angle IMO. When Ben asks Sam for a count before the incident listen to how Sam reply's and look at all his body language, that was his first attempt to telegraph his hand strength and get Ben to call, what he did after is indefensible.

Do you guys really think he thought about folding? I do not think so, so probably he dont have nothing to think in that time, and even then it seems that he realizes something by their faces.
Look at the chips of Sam, he has very few and only 3 colors available, it does not make sense to ask for the account.
He asks that, and surreptitiously before he finishes placing them he drags the timebank chip as if he were folding his cards.

This makes a lot more sense when everyone says that Sam had done this before, if people say it, Heath will know. He also knows that his chips cover his cards, Sam can not see them. He also knows that Sam is not very focused.

In the end Heath benefits more from Sam doing that than Sam himself ... Heath risks nothing at all, Sam risks everything

If you look at the behavior of the body, please look at Heath, he is totally ashamed, and not at all surprised. The opposite of Sam, look until the end, until Yurasov leaves.

Ike haxton does not seem very intelligent, appearing a minute later on twitter saying that he was purposely 99% just because he had seen / heard something from Sam at another time. The reputation does not say anything at all, it would be great if a gesture professional analyzes the sequence and close the Ike Haston´s mouth for being a loudmouth

seems like some people who play with him think otherwise about his 'reputation'

Hi Sam!

I'm just convinced that it was unintentional and it seems incredible that a lot of people think that it was intentional just because they talked about their bad reputation.
I also find it incredible that nobody talks about Heath's intention

also, and even though I do not know if Sam cares about what they say about him on the internet, I would not like to be in his place and see people convinced of a lie because a famous pro without brain says he is 99% sure a minute after it happens

Famous pro who is highly respected in the community, is near the very top of the game, has endless live poker experience and is basing it on previous experiences with the individual in question to come to a conclusion on intent to a high degree*

Looks like some Razzie level acting there.

Stating someone is not intelligent and then resume with that kind of logic?
gg, you just played yourself.