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Old 06-14-2008, 06:24 AM   #1
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Why are pros kicking butt at the wsop?

Well-known pros seem to be doing abnormally well at this years' WSOP. Why?


More non-hold'em events?

More pros playing more events?

Better structures? (supposedly Negreanu's doing)

Weaker non-pros?

Rigged by sponsors?


Or is all this just this just an illusion, and it's donkaments as usual?
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Old 06-14-2008, 06:25 AM   #2
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Re: Why are pros kicking butt at the wsop?

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Old 06-14-2008, 06:32 AM   #3
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Re: Why are pros kicking butt at the wsop?

there are just more well known pros?
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Old 06-14-2008, 06:32 AM   #4
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Re: Why are pros kicking butt at the wsop?

rigged
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Old 06-14-2008, 06:34 AM   #5
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Re: Why are pros kicking butt at the wsop?

They are able to play day in and day out level headed. And set Tarps!!!
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Old 06-14-2008, 06:46 AM   #6
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Re: Why are pros kicking butt at the wsop?

basically FT has converted everyone to pro...
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Old 06-14-2008, 06:52 AM   #7
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Re: Why are pros kicking butt at the wsop?

they got skillz imo
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Old 06-14-2008, 08:03 AM   #8
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Re: Why are pros kicking butt at the wsop?

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basically FT has converted everyone to pro...
This. They're a step away from having a web form you can fill out.
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Old 06-14-2008, 08:07 AM   #9
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Re: Why are pros kicking butt at the wsop?

Variance

but as mike said: someday the only people in the WSOP will be those staked by Ivey, Forrest, Lindgren, Doyle ... and the Stars FT players + maybe 20 more - all others will be busto.

Didnt get his point but sounds cool
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Old 06-14-2008, 08:09 AM   #10
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Re: Why are pros kicking butt at the wsop?

small fields?
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Old 06-14-2008, 08:13 AM   #11
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Re: Why are pros kicking butt at the wsop?

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Well-known pros seem to be doing abnormally well at this years' WSOP. Why?


More non-hold'em events?

More pros playing more events?

Better structures? (supposedly Negreanu's doing)

Weaker non-pros?

Rigged by sponsors?


Or is all this just this just an illusion, and it's donkaments as usual?
Just a thought, might be why they are called pros. Just cause a bunch of kids have computers, it don't mean they can play cards
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Old 06-14-2008, 08:20 AM   #12
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Re: Why are pros kicking butt at the wsop?

Because they are professionals and have learned and adapted . it was only a matter of time imo. im guessing they probably realized that trying to outplay random donks is a bad idea and instead just play ABC style with the occasional overbet shove when they have the nuts against a guy who really seems to like his hand and would also LOVE to knock out a big name pro. just a guess. whatever the reason is, im glad il get to see some final tables this year with people who deserve to be there.
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Old 06-14-2008, 08:33 AM   #13
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They are able to play day in and day out level headed. And set Tarps!!!
I have a tarp to cover my bike in the winter... you think one of those guys would come over in the fall and set it for me?
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Old 06-14-2008, 10:00 AM   #14
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Old 06-14-2008, 10:02 AM   #15
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Re: Why are pros kicking butt at the wsop?

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small fields?
That's what I think. Wait till you get to the Main Event & you have 300+ players per 1 pro. You could conceivably have another idiot like Jamie Gold on a hot streak win it. These current games have a much smaller filed where most of the players are pro's themselves.
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Old 06-14-2008, 11:27 AM   #16
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Re: Why are pros kicking butt at the wsop?

i think its the structures cuz they have much more play this year meaning the pros can utilize wat they know and take advantage of the less skilled players, its annoying how some ppl on this thread r saying that its rigged and **** cuz its obv not ITS THE FRIGGIN WORLD SERIES u idiots.
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Old 06-14-2008, 11:28 AM   #17
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Re: Why are pros kicking butt at the wsop?

There are more non Holdem events plus there are more higher buyins. This leads to mostly pros in some events with smaller fields which makes it look like the pros are doing better than past years.
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Old 06-14-2008, 11:41 AM   #18
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Re: Why are pros kicking butt at the wsop?

Nobody has even shown that they are. How much are all the "pros" combined up (or down) at the WSOP this year?
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Old 06-14-2008, 12:11 PM   #19
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Re: Why are pros kicking butt at the wsop?

doesn't every 1-2 grinder consider themselves a pro nowadays 4 realzz
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Old 06-14-2008, 12:13 PM   #20
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That's what I think. Wait till you get to the Main Event & you have 300+ players per 1 pro. You could conceivably have another idiot like Jamie Gold on a hot streak win it. These current games have a much smaller filed where most of the players are pro's themselves.
There's only 25 pros?
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Old 06-14-2008, 12:49 PM   #21
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Re: Why are pros kicking butt at the wsop?

This thread is weird as it seems to me the internet nerds are pwning.
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Old 06-14-2008, 12:50 PM   #22
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Just a thought, might be why they are called pros. Just cause a bunch of kids have computers, it don't mean they can play cards
Why are so many online players killing it at the WSOP then?
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Old 06-14-2008, 12:58 PM   #23
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Why are so many online players killing it at the WSOP then?
In one year an online player plays more hands than a live pro does in 20 years.
Also the internet allows players to study the past history of all tournament play.
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Old 06-14-2008, 01:10 PM   #24
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Re: Why are pros kicking butt at the wsop?

come on guys we are talking about REAL PROS JESUS live TV PROS
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Old 06-14-2008, 01:40 PM   #25
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small fields?
The fields are bigger this year. The structures are deeper/better.
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