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Is it time to call Tom Dwan a scammer?

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04-23-2016 , 09:38 AM

#826

PasswordGotHacked

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Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 2,913

Why are you so concerned with someone else being so concerned with another guys money?

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04-23-2016 , 10:54 AM

#827

GazzyB123

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Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 5,998

Why are you so concerned with someone else being concerned with what people are concerned about?

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04-23-2016 , 11:52 AM

#828

PasswordGotHacked

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Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 2,913

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Originally Posted by GazzyB123

Why are you so concerned with someone else being concerned with what people are concerned about?

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Had to give you a purpose here didn't I

Last edited by PasswordGotHacked; 04-23-2016 at 11:52 AM. Reason: even if it is a semi retarded one

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04-23-2016 , 08:26 PM

#829

Mother Mucker

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Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,773

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Originally Posted by PasswordGotHacked

Why are you so concerned with someone else being so concerned with another guys money?

One post in this thread by me isn't being "so concerned". I just think it's very odd behavior.

Worry about your own ****. Let people live their lives, bro.

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04-23-2016 , 08:35 PM

#830

OmahaDonk

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Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 5,737

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Originally Posted by Mother Mucker

One post in this thread by me isn't being "so concerned". I just think it's very odd behavior.

Worry about your own ****. Let people live their lives, bro.

In before the hypocrite police.

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04-23-2016 , 10:53 PM

#831

YoungKhalifa

journeyman

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 310

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Originally Posted by mrno1324

It doesn't matter if you're the greatest player in history and you're playing against a table of calling stations you still don't play outside your bankroll.
You'll get ****ed by variance eventually anyway which is exactly what happened when he lost ~10M set over set on a dry board. That 10M must've been a third of this bankroll *at best*.
Chinese are ****ing billionaires lol. ~10MNL is well inside their bankroll. I highly doubt they're fish either.

some people act like this is true and will happen all the time which is false, of course the chances of going broke are higher compared to if you use a very conservative BR management where chances of going broke is very small and close to 0, but dont say you go broke all the time when you use agressive BR management, whith a little luck and on a good upswing he could hav been up like 50-100Million over the 5-6 years (think he plays in macau for even longer time ?) he is in Macau, tom once said in an interview if he had 100Million he would snap quit poker for ever, he probably thought the big macau games where his chance for this.

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04-23-2016 , 11:25 PM

#832

thrasher789

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Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 6,543

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Originally Posted by vinivici9586

he plays like a teenager drunk off listerine on chess with friends. meanwhile curtains is able to recall both matches from memory lol

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/gam...with-rook-odds

it is more likely than not that durrr has gambling problems. it is more likely than not that he is cash broke. not ready to make leaps on substance abuse, but he's not looking great recently (would say adderall is more likely than not though)

lol at everything about that chess bet

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04-24-2016 , 05:54 AM

#833

riverboatking

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Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 24,026

I want to be clear I wasn't saying I think he is broke.
I have no clue as to his finances and wouldn't presume to guess, my only point was that to say you'd be "really suprised" to learn he is in makeup is ******ed.

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04-24-2016 , 06:41 AM

#834

BlueSamurai

self-banned

Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 375

Look RBK,we are all guessing here.This is my opinion,and I have every right to have one.Even if it is a "******ed" one.Won't be the first in NVG history

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04-25-2016 , 02:57 AM

#835

ambientsilence

journeyman

Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 391

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Originally Posted by thrasher789

lol at everything about that chess bet

Gotta say Greg's play in that match was pretty impressive. Especially game 2. I'm rated 1800 and I don't think I would be a favourite against that kind of play.

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04-25-2016 , 05:05 AM

#836

f0ld44

journeyman

Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 323

no i wonnt bag dwan

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04-26-2016 , 08:43 AM

#837

yo_yo

enthusiast

Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 90

WOW, the best of the best its now a scammer

When u lose a 20 mil$ pot in Macau its hard to recover from that...sick

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04-27-2016 , 03:00 AM

#838

SuperSwag

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Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 5,809

Wonder if that 20 million pot went to Ivey. I remember Jungle, Ivey and Tom all went to Manila at same time.

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05-12-2019 , 07:35 PM

#839

BlackJackDegen

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Join Date: Sep 2017 Posts: 875

It seems like Jungle has talked about this at length on numerous podcasts. He has cast aspersions on Tom's character in many pieces I have watched. Examples are Joey Ingram's podcast and many other things he has done. He does say he has paid penalties but doesn't seem overly happy with that as a resolution. The lastest I have heard him comment was last month on a podcast with Jeff Gross.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HCL...outu.be&t=2466

If the bet had of been the other way I can only imagine the crap Jungle would have taken had he or any other player dragged this on for so long. It seems very shady at this stage.

Surely Tom needs to pay out the bet or play the rest of the challenge?

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05-12-2019 , 07:47 PM

#840

NickyC

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Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,840

Just let it go man.

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05-12-2019 , 07:54 PM

#841

BlackJackDegen

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Join Date: Sep 2017 Posts: 875

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Originally Posted by NickyC

Just let it go man.

Let what go? The guy put up 500k of his own money. You can see from the interviews back then that it was quite a big deal for him. He looks like he has got completely stiffed. Luckily for Jungle, he has gone on to make a very good living out of poker. I just don't understand how this hasn't been settled and yet Dwan is seen as some upstanding member of the community while he continues to let it hang.

Just pay that man his money!

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05-12-2019 , 08:13 PM

#842

foul child

stranger

Join Date: Jan 2018 Posts: 6

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Originally Posted by NickyC

Just let it go man.

Yea okay Nicky Dwan.

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05-12-2019 , 08:33 PM

#843

golfbum983

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Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 1,943

Bc he already paid like a million in penalties then settled pretty sure ?

What else you want? A public apology to some fanboys like you ?

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05-12-2019 , 08:40 PM

#844

civ77

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Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 456

It’s nobody’s ****ing business but the people involved. Stop posting cuck threads like this and put some respect on dwans name.

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05-12-2019 , 08:42 PM

#845

BlackJackDegen

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Originally Posted by golfbum983

Bc he already paid like a million in penalties then settled pretty sure ?

What else you want? A public apology to some fanboys like you ?

It is more like 700k according to Jungle. So the guy should be commended for paying back half of what he owes?, not too mention that Jungle is a massive favorite to win a large amount more over the remaining hands so the amount owed is far greater than the bet.

What a hero Tom is. Playing in the same games for years after for huge amounts of money while owing someone at the tables a substantial sum of money. Seems pretty scummy?

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05-12-2019 , 08:45 PM

#846

GazzyB123

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Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 5,998

Tom Dwan could rape my granny and I'd still love the guy.

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05-12-2019 , 08:45 PM

#847

BlackJackDegen

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Originally Posted by civ77

It’s nobody’s ****ing business but the people involved. Stop posting cuck threads like this and put some respect on dwans name.

Jungle has made it public in a number of interviews like the one I posted so I beg to differ.

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05-12-2019 , 09:06 PM

#848

wowsooooted

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Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 5,090

This was pre-black friday.. stop living in the past man, they are both lucky degens so fkn wat?

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05-12-2019 , 09:07 PM

#849

tiltmonster1

adept

Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 1,025

Blackjack tables are this way --->

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05-12-2019 , 09:12 PM

#850

prideitoff

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Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 446

because scamming people has become common in poker

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