I and ther were scammed by a mamber of you league, some of it happened before the league was formed so i understandniiot much can be dont about that, but he really shouldnt be in aposition to judge others.

Moving to the present he has lied cheated and welched on bets steeling from fellow players. he has stated he would take a lie detector test and have an open debate with me about this.

Dan blitz was agreed to arbitrate a 50k bet me wade and i think dan awarded me the win not 100% sure. He has scammed and lied to his friend on many occasions.

Do i have any rights with the epl to file a formal complaint or do i have to be a member?Its astonishing that he could cause so much embarassment to the league and yet they say nothing. He should be judged way higher then anyother member when putting him self in the position he has.

EPL please do the right thing, i will be hapy to discuss this with him on the radio if he would like as he has suggested before.

he cheateed askman fir 130k made him pay the same way he cheated me for 50k and didnt pay.

How to a help rid the poker cumunity of scum for the greater good of the game, or is the epl only interested taking care of the members?

Alec also cheated in the most recent poker game we played in at iveys room.

would i be better off trying to take this to the sponsors and let them decide?

I and others were scammed by a member of your league, some of it happened before the league was formed so i understand not much can be dont about that, but he [Alec Torelli] really shouldn't be in a position to judge others.

Currently, he has lied, cheated, and welched on bets stealing from fellow players. he has stated he would take a lie detector test and have an open debate with me about this.

Dan Bilzerian agreed to arbitrate a 50k bet we made and i think dan awarded me the win not 100% sure. He has scammed and lied to his friend on many occasions.

Do i have any rights with the epl to file a formal complaint or do i have to be a member? Its astonishing that he could cause so much embarassment to the league and yet they say nothing. He should be judged way higher than any other member when putting him self in the position he has.

EPL please do the right thing, i would be happy to discuss this with him on the radio if he would like as he has suggested before.

he cheated askman (ashman?) for 130k made him pay the same way he cheated me for 50k and didnt pay.

How to a help rid the poker cumunity of scum for the greater good of the game, or is the epl only interested taking care of the members?

would i be better off trying to take this to the sponsors and let them decide?

How did this go?

Good work mamafei.

to be frank, if what i hear about Alec torelli is true- i find it mildy disturbing that he would skin a trust fund baby with a gambling problem (Perky) and scam viffer (an illiterate coke addict and probably degenerate gambler) out of money.

http://www.epicpoker.com/about/contact-us.aspx

woah woah woah.....no one here minds degenerate gamblers or coke addicts, it's the scumbag scammers we hate

i have tried they are aware of certain things, they have no number if the y wish to cintact me.

is gr8 viffer?

Yup

what did Annie say when you PM'd her?

FYP

go viffer

Can all in for $100k preflop. You da man Viffer.

Excellent work - I couldn't figure out who this new "ther"-guy who also had gotten scammed was.

That had mea s well, although its good to see Viffer doing what he can to get this situation brought to the attention of the EPL and the poker community as a whole, gj

Isn't there already a thread for this?

^ yes.

love viffer, but i mean, if you're trying to professionally address a group of individuals about a major situation, it shouldn't look like it was written in crayola by a 7 year old. ha.

and it's hysterical that it says "Last Edited by Gr8" on the bottom...like, what the hell was he editing exactly? "oops, forgot a comma there...". lol.

Details, please?

Info on the Iveys room game. That sounds more interesting than the tired perky story. How did he cheat you viffer?

LOL
Seriously, people can do with their own money what they want, just don't screw other people over.

better not make a comment like this and not be able to back it up because once the casino hears about it and if its true couldnt they ban him for life for cheating on their property?

and on the flip side you just look really really bad if you cant prove this or are lying about it and pretty much just lose all credibility from here on out....

pretty bold statement viff....

She said no because someone asked.

Viffer mentions this in the podcast he did, when alec was also on but disconnected when Viffer came on.

Anyways Viffer mentioned Alec had a peice of another player at the table. Viffer pulled Alec aside asked him if he was backing anyone and Alec said "no". Which Viffer says he found out was a lie.

Viffer ended up playing on table against Alec and stakee unknowingly.

V funny