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09-21-2016 , 03:01 PM

#76

TrueBloodz07

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Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 4

Isn't there an easy solution for seating scripts?

Normal scenario : 3 players are battling -> fish joins table -> players with fastest seating script get the 2 other seats.

New scenario : 3 players are battling -> fish joins table -> player joins 'waiting list' -> after one minute pokerstars picks one random person from waiting list to join table. (process continues untill table is full).

So players have a fixed timespan to join the table.
an as an extra: pokerstars should hide the fact whether there is a waiting list or not, so that recs will feel less targeted. (Ofcourse you can't stop the fact that there will still be 5 regs vs 1 rec)

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09-21-2016 , 10:46 PM

#77

lancelott_

veteran

Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,467

Dont worry they will find a better way of balancing & creating a better ecosystem than banning some dumb seating scripts.
For example they can raise the effective rake via new cuts, or come up with a new super low edge `lolpokerlol` format.

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09-22-2016 , 02:06 AM

#78

LektorAJ

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 7,875

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Originally Posted by TrueBloodz07

Does that system treat regs and recs differently then?

The above could work if you have a rule that only one new player per table per minute - so the rec gets normally gets on straight away and random people from the queue (or waiting room) gradually fill the other spots.

Really though screen name changes and/or no lobby are the solution. PS already have a quick seat feature.

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09-23-2016 , 03:59 AM

#79

hornykiss

banned

Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 157

https://www.pokertube.com/poker-news...ing-pokerstars

We are aware that there are sites that collect data from all our games, and we are taking steps to prevent them from doing so. Unfortunately, this is not as easy as flipping a switch, but we have dealt with the issue in the Zoom games, and we expect that we will be able to roll out a solution for the Spin & Gos as well. We are hoping to do so in Q1 of 2016, though it is possible we will have to revise that date. After the Spin & Go solution is in place, our other games will be covered as quickly as possible.

Any update pokerstars? Which games are next on your list?

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09-23-2016 , 11:12 AM

#80

iamblackornot

centurion

Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 142

they have already solved this problem with heads-up cash tables. no bs, no promises brocken

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09-23-2016 , 01:29 PM

#81

Cards201

enthusiast

Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 80

Why not just assign a random 'session' number to each player and only display that opposed to the player alias? The 'session' can be whatever they want... per logon, a day,week, month, etc.
Wouldn't this resolve most issues? People could still use HUDs but they would be more directed to benefiting ones own play and development and not targeting how to best target specific other players. Seating scripts would be fine as the only benefit I can see is aiding sitting massive amounts of tables and managing table numbers... they wouldn't be able to target/bum hunt.
So wouldn't the only people offended by this change would be the bum hunters and grinders?

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09-23-2016 , 02:51 PM

#82

Zenzor

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 5,420

What Pokerstars should do is reduce rake.

Breaking news: If you don't swipe away edges to rake, regulars will start tables and play 5 handed against each other instead of bumhunt.

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09-23-2016 , 07:22 PM

#83

Keep Your Dreams

adept

Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,175

It simply seems like PS doesnt have the capacity to ban the software.
Theyd need to invest a fortune for solutions to effectively find evry single user every time or completely re-write the whole program. I guess its just not a profitable enough effort for theire business model.

Most 3rd party software bans in online multiplayer games, that im aware of, first take years, second result in the exclusion of thousands of users when exposed, but never actually the software to be blocked.
And these are multi billion gaming giants 10 times the size of PS

Its pretty save to say amaya doesnt really like to invest in PS

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09-23-2016 , 07:34 PM

#84

Keep Your Dreams

adept

Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,175

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Originally Posted by LektorAJ

Then change your screen name.

If your site won't let you then change site.

The only reason PS and online poker is successful as it is today is because of the fairytales of players who "made it" playing under a screen name( identity )

Simply imagine you wouldnt have been able to follow or relate to a screen name and its history of being a winning player .

All the success of online poker wouldnt have happened without screen names (a identity) . Simple

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09-23-2016 , 07:40 PM

#85

Keep Your Dreams

adept

Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,175

Also its my wish (like many fun players, recs) to know who the player is next to me playing. They need to find another solution.

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09-24-2016 , 02:53 AM

#86

LektorAJ

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Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 7,875

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Originally Posted by Keep Your Dreams

People can still opt in to results sites if they want just like now, the two things aren't related.

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09-24-2016 , 10:14 AM

#87

Keep Your Dreams

adept

Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,175

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Originally Posted by LektorAJ

People can still opt in to results sites if they want just like now, the two things aren't related.

How would you be able to find a players results without his screen name?

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09-24-2016 , 10:47 AM

#88

LektorAJ

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Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 7,875

If someone opts in to results tracking then presumably they are also going to be willing to share their "results name" or "log-in" or whatever. There are also leaderboards.

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09-25-2016 , 04:34 AM

#89

hornykiss

banned

Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 157

Stars should be issuing warnings to players about what games are being tracked. I'd guess there are game types where bots and cheats are going to town and I suspect heads up is one of them, hence why most of the hu tournaments have been taken away. Olivier Busquet even admitted on Joey Ingrams podcast bots are known there ( 2 of them) and he has little interest in participating further in this environment.

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09-25-2016 , 03:54 PM

#90

iamblackornot

centurion

Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 142

i assume stars will eventually start using their own bots to ensure the bots-paranoia stays high so that every rec will accept making rake unbeatable cause if games unbeatable bots make no sense

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