I can imagine that Stars might want to physically inspect the two computers before a payout, or possibly get permission to install a remote access program on them to inspect for evidence of an autofolder and incriminating chat logs. Any prohibited files should still be visible even if the files were deleted. And if the drive shows evidence of being wiped by something more potent, that would be sufficiently incriminating to withhold payment.

they got 74,500 by playing, 70,000 by folding.

like i said..... all hu table played like this when they saw that the 70b hands was 1million hand away... moran

That is not right. Lets say you are able to narrow down the period in which the the landmark hand is likely to be dealt to within about 8 seconds (not too hard to do - everyone knows when it is about to happen simly by watching hand numbers). You are sitting on 24 tables with maxed out timebanks and simply wait until this period and then close 3 tables a second for those 8 seconds. That will give you around 24 chances to be dealt a landmark hand. If these players actually have ten times the chance that you do, this means they are starting 240 hands in this time period, and it is simply impossible to fold hands this quickly and be dealt new ones in this time frame. Chances are they started around 24 hands in this timeframe too.

In fact, doing a little maths shows that a rate of ten thousand hands per hour actually implies they play 22 hands in this period, so in fact you had a better chance than they did at hitting the landmark hand. You can change the 8 second window a bit and it does not change things much.

Left-wing looney lottery. Let someone else pay for the tickets but make sure you're there with your greedy hands out on disbursement day.

stars have a a new thing called HOTKEYS. all you have to do is assign the fold button to X and you just click it as if you paffing for 1 hour

Yeah, a "normal 2 tabler" bumping up his tables by playing against the same guy 24 times and folding every hand. Quite a normal 2 tablers.

And they didn't play any hand. That's the point, they weren't playing pokers, they were folding. I thought the promo was for the action of playing poker.

the guy in the BB would get in no?

I dont see how Pokerstars can punish only these 2 people. I am sure dozens of others did the exact same thing. If PS wants to go out and punish everyone that did this fine but then you have the issue of who gets the money.

another fact..... right around 699999bilionth hands you couldnt find a table.. you had to open and it was filling up quick........

show your proof that they both played all their tables with same players and you got a proof that they played together but how the **** do you collude HU

All people were playing against the same opponents 24 times and folding all hands in their session? If that's the case, I think they were also colluding.

they raised their chances of winning from infinitesimal to miniscule, who cares, this is not cheating or colluding. with all the real problems going on the poker world, we don't need sensational threads like this going on where players are doing nothing explicitly wrong

yes show your proof.. pics and all

This is not cheating. Exploiting, maybe. But not cheating. They are smart, they deserve the money.

I must admit that the information I was given was that they played all tables against each other and were folding for a long time. I'm speaking with that information in mind.

this

OMG how does it make any difference who they were playing? EVERYONE WAS AUTO FOLDING AROUND THE 70B HAND MARK(not everyone but almost everyone)!!!! Do you not get this? It doesn't matter what they did prior. How could it????

They didn't play any hand, and they weren't rewarded for any hand prior to the 70b hand were they? Explain to me how them folding hand 69b makes a difference?

Really don't get how people don't understand this.

huge angle - hope they get their money confiscated.

ya but the software pauses it when you get the milestone hand so you have like 2 minutes to choose not to fold.

Full Ts and Cs

Cant believe people think they should be let off


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Not everyone was auto folding. The guys at my table didn't seem to understand this concept. Hence the winners had a bigger edge in general. They were working as a team for a common goal, make the big one. Mission accomplished but I still think if I were giving out 70k, I wouldn't like to give it to these guys.

I played and of course watched those two win as well as watch the loser fake grumble and whine. I have not the slightest doubt they knew each other. I thought PS had witnessed this same problem at the 50 billion challenge and was going to rethink it regarding two person tables. Obviously I was wrong.

When I replayed the previous hands at the table they did not play one game at all. Simply folded and folded until the 70 billionth hand came up. Left PS feeling like the sucker I probably am.

I dont think you guys get it.

This is about the rules. If you are found to have soft played in a HU
or SNG

Lets say for instance Pokerstars decides to check hand histories and finds
that these players where in fact folding AA and KK to each other .

I guarantee the players will be contacted to explain why they are folding
AA , KK etc especially HU.

Players have been banned in the past for softplaying in DoNs there is
no difference here.

Just for the record, I'm in the US so I can't play on Stars, but I'm going to go on the record and say good job to the winners. Everyone on here who's crying about how unfair it was, you all could have done the same damn thing, you all probably just didn't think of it lol. Guaranteed once PS's gets to their 100 billionth hand promo there's going to be a lot more 2+2er's doing the exact same thing.

Doing this probably gave them a .00x% edge on the rest of the field, but it's just the same as someone who plays 2 tables jumping to 24. Yes, of course they didn't pay rake, but does it say in the promo rules that you must be generating rake to win? If it's not in the rules, then they didn't break any. Get over it everyone, if they hadn't won, this thread wouldn't be here. It's ridiculous.

First, I want to have more information, but from what I see right now :

1- If you agree to fold every hands to gain an advantage, it's the definition of collusion.

2-They weren't playing poker were they? How can they receive poker money without playing poker? It does not make sense to me.

3-They freerolled by colluding. A freeroll is kind of a reward.

I tried to look on ptr, but yesterday's session wasn't there.