Is that really you? good luck in November

I think that was Snead in that incident

craigmarq on 2+2 = craig marquis on final table.

What does that tell us about your parenting skills?

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I agree with Craig - if you are not in the Hand - to call the clock is rude. When I read that on Poker News - I thought that was wrong to call the clock when you are not in the hand.

What was the rush for her anyway ??

No etiquette, no class, no ethics or integrity (at least in terms of selecting sponsorship)... hey, she sure sounds like a poker player to me!

TM deserves a sponsor equally lacking in a moral compass... and she found UB. Birds of a feather flock together. I concur with the poster that said he was rooting for her until the UB thing erupted, and then he was happy she didn't make the November Nine. Amen to that.

For what it's worth- his grammar may not be American grammar. I know this might come as a shock, but America is not the only country in the world that uses the English language.

I'm more concerned with substance vs. structure. While others just like to bitch.

Your mileage may vary...

She seems nice, but maybe a bit tooooo nice.....the type of girl who will smile and say hi to you and then talk **** when you turn your back (good for poker, obv).

She is a bit condecending and like most attractive women, she probably also probably thinks a bit highly of herself. This definitely shows when she talked about her play during the ME, considering how she responded to her own hand analysis with the AJ hand (lol @ her putting the guy who smooth called PF and on the flop with KK). She'll learn like the rest of us this game humbles you.

I love how she pulled out the "I chose UB because they gave me more respect" card.

I recall some guy named Pedro Martinez saying the same thing at a Mets press conference in Dec of 2004 when he said the Mets gave him "more respect" than the Red Sox did; the same Mets who offered 1 more year and 12 million dollars more.

"More respect" = "More money" obv

Maybe she was in a hurry to bust out.

Who was playing the hand when she called the clock?

From Online Gaming News.com:

Dude had top pair and 6/1. He was stalling. Maybe he was trying to get the blinds to go up on a short stack.

JTx with a two flush is the worst flop to fold top pair on, so obv shenanigans.

What a bitch.

Fair enough

Congratulations Craig Marquis for making that final table.

Tiffany's rudeness is most telling as to her character. Craig knows. He was sitting there. Calling the clock here could have some impact on the outcome or on tilting some player. Part of poker used to be that people out of the pot remain silent when a big hand comes up. Someone needs to write a guide to proper poker manners.

Johnny Hughes

I hear she went on PokerRoad and basically brushed off the UB scandal by saying "its in the past". It is?

I was really rooting for this girl but I must say I have lost all respect for her. I also feel sorry for her - clearly she has an amateur for an agent who can't see the forest through the trees (quick score vs. BIG Picture/long term - agent allowed her to go for the quick score when the huge upside was long term). She is getting really really bad advice right now. I hope things get better for her.

As I read that hand, I was thinking the same ****ing thing...

If his stall was anywhere close to 5 minutes thats ridiculous. There's no way he was ever going to fold, I would have called clock too.

Well Tony G and Poker News valued her enough to **** out thousands of dollars to buy her into multiple tournaments. Wouldn't that constitute "a fair rate of pay". Then she ****s on them and says "well I found a loophole in my contract..." And your analogy about sports players doesn't hold, as she renegged during the event.

So when she said her agent found a loophole or whatever, she knew that she was pissing on them.

She's just trash.

I'd actually defend her on calling the clock, though. I mean, I wasn't there and Craig was, so we can accept his view, but the clock affects everyone at the table, not just the players in the hand. 5 minutes seems like more than adequate time to make your decision. Those blinds and antes are going to march up on everyone at the table, so to say someone can't call the clock just because they aren't in the hand is ridiculous.

Just as an FYI, the difference between 21st and 18th was $257,334 to $334,535 (about $77,201).

Regarding the clock hand, did the guy thinking have top pair or top set? If the latter, why is he thinking so hard?

Anyways,

1)If Tiffany had a deal saying "no other sponsors", she breached contract.
2)If not, she should have at least asked her backers if she could get some sponsors to make sure everything was okay to prevent conflict of interest (What if Ivey backed her and she got a Stars patch?) or picking a sponsor he backer displeased of. (A crooked site)
3)Her "bye Pokernews, I'm a poker pros!!!1!!!one!" was so arrogant. Congrats you made over a quarter of a million dollars in one donkament.* According to HendonMob, this is your first cash evar.

You know who made it further and made more money than her at a ME? Tiffany Williamson. Now, I know she's H-DOG/Human Delay of Game and the clock should be called on her while the dealer is still pitching. But, she's at least humble and knows she ain't a superstar.Tiffany Michelle is not humble and needs to be made humble old country style.

*You know who else exploded on the scene by almost making the FT of a big event and making this much money AND being classless?

Vanessa "I went to Duke, so I make aggresive calls while calling clock on you and slowrollin and I'm right since I got more tourney winnings than you" Rousso. (I heard this, might be a rumour, but she may have gone to Duke to study Game Theory)
TMichelle is Rousso v2.0

It was the joker who kicked Mikey out

Agree with you Bulls_Horn on the Clock, it was actually 5:52 before clock was called, nearly 6 minutes!!

Thing is that while this is totally true that its possible he was just stalling, it is VERY VERY unlikely having played with the dude for 2 days. I say it not only for that guy but also for Scott Montgomery's sake. Its really easy for people to sit in an ivory tower and say that the call is the easiest one in the world, but when you're sitting in the seat and playing and put in that situation, it is wayyyyy harder. At least for some people =). If anyone was able to talk himself into folding at the table it was going to be Paul. I think calling the clock makes a significant difference in the hand dynamic and so forth.

I'm not saying she doesn't have a right to do it, and its certainly within the rules for her to, but when we are playing for this much money I just can't imagine ever being dick enough to do it personally. I try to give the other players the same kinda respect I would want.

C

Because if you spent $10,000 on it and the table next to you happens to have a a named pro and gets picked for the "feature table" all regular players get $10,000 in sponsorship money to wear their FT or PS logo....players that are normal joes arent going out making their own deal they got lucky to have a pro there that ESPN wanted to feature
IMO totally not right...that $$$$ should go to pool or reduced rake