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01-26-2012 , 12:09 PM
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01-26-2012 , 12:30 PM
Durrrr's the best! He's a great guy and totally innocent in the whole FTP mess, and I don't like when people get mad at him for it. He's a victim like the rest of us and has always had the players' best interests in mind.
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01-26-2012 , 12:33 PM
I miss Full Tilt.
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01-26-2012 , 01:02 PM
I think it's cute how he doesn't even seem to understand the complaint against FTP. He says the DoJ shut them down under one interpretation of the Wire Act and then later released a statement saying the Wire Act doesn't apply to online poker. Well done, durrrr!

(look up UIGEA, it's not the same thing as the Wire Act)
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01-26-2012 , 01:35 PM
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01-26-2012 , 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Aruj Reis
I think it's cute how he doesn't even seem to understand the complaint against FTP. He says the DoJ shut them down under one interpretation of the Wire Act and then later released a statement saying the Wire Act doesn't apply to online poker. Well done, durrrr!

(look up UIGEA, it's not the same thing as the Wire Act)
the doj shut down ftp and stars because of bank issues that arised because of pressure the doj applied based on their interpretation of how the uigea affected banks implying a flawed interpretation of the wire act.

I know thats a pretty complicated sentence, but its pretty complicated what went down.
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01-26-2012 , 01:44 PM
in after legend

Last edited by Protential; 01-26-2012 at 01:44 PM. Reason: good interview tho
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01-26-2012 , 01:45 PM
geez its 2012 and we still have to read interviews.
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01-26-2012 , 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by durrrr
the doj shut down ftp and stars because of bank issues that arised because of pressure the doj applied based on their interpretation of how the uigea affected banks implying a flawed interpretation of the wire act.

I know thats a pretty complicated sentence, but its pretty complicated what went down.
UIGEA would allow the sites to be shut down for any transactions that were illegal under state law. The Wire Act was neither required nor mentioned in the complaint(s). I could be wrong since I didn't read the whole thing, but you have more skin in the game than I.

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9. On or about March 10, 2011, a Grand Jury sitting
in the Southern District of New York returned a sealed nine-count
Superseding Indictment, S3 10 Cr. 336 (LAK) (the “Indictment”)
charging Scheinberg, Bitar, Tom, Beckley, Burtnick, Tate, Lang,
Franzen, Rubin, Elie, and John Campos (“Campos”) with conspiring
to violate the Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act
(“UIGEA”), 31 U.S.C. §§ 5363 and 5366, in violation of Title 18,
United States Code, Section 371 (Count One); violating UIGEA,
Title 31, United States Code, Sections 5363 and 5366 (Counts Two,
Three, and Four); conducting illegal gambling businesses, in
violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 1955 (Counts
Five, Six, and Seven); conspiring to commit wire fraud and bank
fraud, in violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 1349
(Count Eight); and conspiring to launder money, in violation of
Title 18, United States Code, Section 1956(h) (Count Nine). A
true and correct copy of the Indictment is attached hereto as
Exhibit A and is incorporated by reference as if fully set forth
herein.
The Wire Act is 18 USC 50
§§ 1081-1084
I find no mention of it in the amended civil complaint. As I understand it, the UIGEA was applied to actions that are or were illegal under state law. The Wire Act would be a direct violation of federal law and serves as a basis for a charge on its own where UIGEA requires an underlying violation.

Last edited by Aruj Reis; 01-26-2012 at 01:59 PM.
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01-26-2012 , 01:52 PM
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01-26-2012 , 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Aruj Reis
UIGEA would allow the sites to be shut down for any transactions that were illegal under state law. The Wire Act was neither required nor mentioned in the complaint(s). I could be wrong since I didn't read the whole thing, but you have more skin in the game than I.
the doj interpretation of the wire act caused banks to not deal with ftp/stars, and ftp/stars then chose a path where they bent/broke state laws instead of refusing us deposits.

edit: also the charges u site about ny state law i think the doj would've been afraid to bring alone for fear of losing the case, but were valid enough when backed up by the bank fraud charges.

Last edited by durrrr; 01-26-2012 at 02:25 PM.
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01-26-2012 , 01:54 PM
Durr is a tool box. Truth be known he and the rest all profited from the anything goes attitude of Lederer and the rest who thought they were untouchable. Sad thing is we will never know the truth.
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01-26-2012 , 01:54 PM
Does durrrr have any inside knowledge of when online poker may be legalized?
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01-26-2012 , 01:55 PM
^^ real american hero
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01-26-2012 , 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Aruj Reis
I think it's cute how he doesn't even seem to understand the complaint against FTP. He says the DoJ shut them down under one interpretation of the Wire Act and then later released a statement saying the Wire Act doesn't apply to online poker. Well done, durrrr!

(look up UIGEA, it's not the same thing as the Wire Act)
I think it's cute that you don't understand, that he is just a 24-25 year old guy who was hired first and foremost for his promotional value, do you expect him to have the insider knowledge we are all longing for???
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01-26-2012 , 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by banonlinepoker
Durr is a tool box. Truth be known he and the rest all profited from the anything goes attitude of Lederer and the rest who thought they were untouchable. Sad thing is we will never know the truth.
Right, because you certainly would have done things differently.

Might be nice to judge everything from the outside and with the benefit of hindsight.
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01-26-2012 , 02:04 PM
Thanks for the op. Decent interview. Good luck to Durrr and ALL of you (us) in 2012.
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01-26-2012 , 02:16 PM
Good interview durrr, but did they do it written because they knew in a video he would never look at the camera?
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01-26-2012 , 02:19 PM
I totally started a thread that hadn't already been done, AND Durrr posted in it.

I'm a ****ing rock star today.
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01-26-2012 , 02:27 PM
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Right, because you certainly would have done things differently.

Might be nice to judge everything from the outside and with the benefit of hindsight.
Actually yea I would of. I don't believe in screwing people over and not having enough money to cover cash outs so David Benyamine could go on tilt.

Look it's obvious this was a scam all the way. Only done because Howard thought the DOJ wouldn't and couldn't touch him. Life's a bitch huh? I hope he can never play poker in public again and he more than deserves it. He actually should be in jail.
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01-26-2012 , 02:28 PM
There are some serious holes in Toms interview.

He blames his lack of communication with the players on losing his phone multiple times.....errrr..OK...

And of course twitter is the only form of communication.......hmmmmm.

Did he lose his 2+2 password or lose the ability to contact major poker news sites?

Sorry, Tom just doesn't sound like his is telling the whole truth in the interview.

Another guy in a long list who turned out oweing FTP money and has probably been pressured to STFU.

And of course Phil Ivey is a "good guy"

A good guy wouldnt be playing these high roller events while players are owed money.

That was his excuse for not playing the WSOP...... or was it just BS from the "good guy"
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01-26-2012 , 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Julebag
I totally started a thread that hadn't already been done, AND Durrr posted in it.

I'm a ****ing rock star today.
Well you do deserve a:

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01-26-2012 , 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by POWERMOB
not sure why but i lold... prob because of the randomness
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01-26-2012 , 02:42 PM
Durrr please refer from responding to BANONLINE clown.... He is just embarrassing himself as usual....

You are one of the most stand-up guys in poker, your name is never linked to any type of scandals, multi-accounting BS --- you're just solid.

Anyone with have half a brain can see and understand the complexity of the corruption within Full Tilt which has obviously nothing to do with you...

You are a sponsored PRO -- not in accounting, not in uppermanagement, not in the legal department or day to day operations...

I personally appreciate your comments, answers and distain for what has happened to all the players monies at FTP....

Good Luck to you and Thanks!
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01-26-2012 , 02:45 PM
fwiw, afaik, durrr is obv a super reputable guy and is obv super bummed out about the ftp situation and phil ivey is a really cool dude.
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