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Originally Posted by Poogs
This isn't true. Again, people giving opinions when they don't know what here talking about. If Jason was an agent, as he says he was, then he doesn't need any kind of bankroll at all. Agents are just middlemen
You don't seem to get it. Who or what Jason was here isn't the most relevant part. The relevant part is that a bet was accepted from Chris that couldn't be paid out if he had won, evidenced by the others who placed bets and won. This suggests Chris was freerolled. Regardless of who JY is or isn't in this situation doesn't change the fact that if Chris wasn't going to get paid when he won then he shouldn't be obligated to pay when he lost. Even if JY was the middleman/agent (gosh darn, this part was really oh so tough to understand this complicated sportsbetting stuff) then he shouldn't be going to another victim of the scam asking him to cough up money to pay someone else off when he doesn't have an obligation anymore after things are discovered to be fraudulent.
The other people (like sheets) owed money were scammed by the book, it's not CM's responsibility to make them whole. And plus, the example that was being responded to was from the perspective of JY being the one taking the bets himself, which other posters who "do know what they're talking about" (from sportsbetting experience) have already said was the most likely case here anyway.
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Originally Posted by isteal
Just pay the bet. You made it. You lost it. Whether or not JY is paying other people doesn't matter.
LOL. EV. What is it.
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Originally Posted by dunlap
Before arbitration I would like an answer to two questions
How in the hell do you have balance at 25k? My biggest bet of my life was the 7k bet I made so I know my number.
How do you open up the book for sheets in October when your boss is gone and you are insolvant?
Given how this thread has gone it doesn't seem to me that you should be jumping into arbitration so soon. As others have explained, the onus seems to be on JY. Other players being owed money at least proves that the book 100% was taking bets it couldn't pay out at some point, the question now is just timeline. The information that needs to come out to address this is in your and JY's hands, so it could just as well be posted here without freerolling yourself in some arbitration. There were also some strong arguments posted for why the timeline here for when they became insolvent isn't particularly relevant.
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