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07-21-2023 , 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by PointlessWords
lots of assumptions here. part of suing is so you can subpoena and see what really happened. Guess you havent considered that the casino may have drilled his box and kept the contents.
VEry doubtful that would be policy (even unwritten one). Bellagio/MGM is not going to benefit financially from doing this. Once found out, the reputational costs would massively outweigh any short terp benefits.

Now could they have drilled and emptied. Sure and they could have messed thing up and lost the funds. They might have then "lost" the paper trail to cover it up. Also an employee(s) may have stolen then funds after found in a drilled inactive box.
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07-22-2023 , 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by ScotchOnDaRocks
?

And why so obviously fake? What was endgame?
Endgame can be a lot of things.. Owes money. Claims to have a lot of liquidity as proof that hes doing well to backers. etc
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07-22-2023 , 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by PointlessWords
Yea not that simple. I’ve won court cases where similar things happened. I just had to show receipts for where the money came from and then I gave my sworn statement about a couple other things.

You just don’t know what you’re talking about. Thx


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But he cant prove any money was in the box you dolt. Its not about proving “where it came from.” Players are given access to these boxes in private and there is no record of what, if anything, is inside. You have not won “similar cases” before, and you somehow seem to be confusing a players box with a deposit in the casino cage that is documented. If you are just trolling then you got me but if not you mustve been dropped on your head recently.
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07-22-2023 , 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by arcdog
But he cant prove any money was in the box you dolt. Its not about proving “where it came from.” Players are given access to these boxes in private and there is no record of what, if anything, is inside. You have not won “similar cases” before, and you somehow seem to be confusing a players box with a deposit in the casino cage that is documented. If you are just trolling then you got me but if not you mustve been dropped on your head recently.
there is more way to prove the existence of money than the records you are referencing. Additionally, there may be evidence the casino is withholding that dude cant get access to, and that evidence may help his case. I have had deposit boxes at the casino before. thanks
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07-23-2023 , 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Kebabkungen
Endgame can be a lot of things.. Owes money. Claims to have a lot of liquidity as proof that hes doing well to backers. etc
Those are opposite things and neither one really makes sense. If he owed me money it wouldn’t help, might gain him a broken leg for holding out.

Was weird to go posting on Twitter, but seems like weird dude, although he’s a nice little poker player
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07-23-2023 , 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by ScotchOnDaRocks
Those are opposite things and neither one really makes sense. If he owed me money it wouldn’t help, might gain him a broken leg for holding out.

Was weird to go posting on Twitter, but seems like weird dude, although he’s a nice little poker player
Both scenarios make more sense than his bogus story of "oh my hundreds of thousands that I have no record of ever existing was stolen by the multi billion dollar Bellagio"
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07-23-2023 , 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Kebabkungen
Both scenarios make more sense than his bogus story of "oh my hundreds of thousands that I have no record of ever existing was stolen by the multi billion dollar Bellagio"

Are you implying the casino is an entity and can do things on it own?

Or are you being facetious and you understand that a casino employee or a couple of them likely defrauded or stole from the customer , or do you actually think the bellagio is an entity that can choose to do things independently of a human.


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07-23-2023 , 11:23 AM
Between this story (no idea if it's true) and https://ktla.com/news/local-news/fbi...beverly-hills/ I'm never using safety deposit boxes.
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07-23-2023 , 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by PointlessWords
Are you implying the casino is an entity and can do things on it own?

Or are you being facetious and you understand that a casino employee or a couple of them likely defrauded or stole from the customer , or do you actually think the bellagio is an entity that can choose to do things independently of a human.


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Yea I think the Bellagio is a living entity and it stole the money to go buy hamburgers. Disingenous dumb****.
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07-23-2023 , 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Kebabkungen
Both scenarios make more sense than his bogus story of "oh my hundreds of thousands that I have no record of ever existing was stolen by the multi billion dollar Bellagio"
Lol “hundreds of thousands of dollars that I have no record of ever existing!”

Well I mean he did cash for around 250K in last years’s WSOP (2nd in 10K dealers choice for 186K) and there are people who probably remember playing high limit cash at Bellagio.

Seems entirely possible if not probable that he would keep 50-120K in a box and come back to it next year. Might be less than 10% bankroll, it felt safe, and less hassle next year.

Still don’t know what caused you to jump to your 100% he’s lying conclusion. Seems entirely possible casino messed up or just simply doesn’t know what happened. But that they also know they can win the battle anyway as Gordo had no outs. It’s fly swatting to them.
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07-23-2023 , 02:44 PM
The people who believe this story are the very same people who would lend money to a "respected tournament regular" based on Hendon results and longevity in poker community and then cry when they take forever to pay back.
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07-23-2023 , 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Kebabkungen
The people who believe this story are the very same people who would lend money to a "respected tournament regular" based on Hendon results and longevity in poker community and then cry when they take forever to pay back.
Lol none of your “great” takes make any sense at all

The ole “sorry I owe you but it got stolen from me” one got explained away. If he owed me, he’d catch a beating for holding out

It’s possible he’s lying but putting it at 100% is ridiculous. It happened to mason malmuth
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07-23-2023 , 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by PointlessWords
there is more way to prove the existence of money than the records you are referencing. Additionally, there may be evidence the casino is withholding that dude cant get access to, and that evidence may help his case. I have had deposit boxes at the casino before. thanks
Well Ill tell you this - he wont file a lawsuit, and its not because he is a charitable man who wants others to benefit from his hard work. You use terms like “prove” when you mean “assert” or “claim.” He 100% could never prove that the last time he went to that box he didnt empty it out, and all of us but you are smart enough to see that.

Ill give you one thing, your user name is on the money.
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07-23-2023 , 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by arcdog
Well Ill tell you this - he wont file a lawsuit, and its not because he is a charitable man who wants others to benefit from his hard work. You use terms like “prove” when you mean “assert” or “claim.” He 100% could never prove that the last time he went to that box he didnt empty it out, and all of us but you are smart enough to see that.

Ill give you one thing, your user name is on the money.
I mean he could prove that, relatively easily, if a couple of things happened.

he sues, company says he was right and they punished an employee for emptying his box.

so yes, that would be a way to prove he didnt empty the box out.

you are wrong, again. please dont speak in absolutes, they are easy to disprove and dont help the discourse
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07-24-2023 , 05:14 AM
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Originally Posted by ScotchOnDaRocks
Lol none of your “great” takes make any sense at all

The ole “sorry I owe you but it got stolen from me” one got explained away. If he owed me, he’d catch a beating for holding out

It’s possible he’s lying but putting it at 100% is ridiculous. It happened to mason malmuth
You didnt explain ****. The "poker community" dont even beat up or punish known thieves of millions or dollars or cheaters stealing massive EV.
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07-24-2023 , 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Kebabkungen
You didnt explain ****. The "poker community" dont even beat up or punish known thieves of millions or dollars or cheaters stealing massive EV.
They didn’t owe me, I don’t play games
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07-24-2023 , 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by ScotchOnDaRocks
They didn’t owe me, I don’t play games
what were the last 3 times you punched someone. which years
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07-24-2023 , 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by PointlessWords
what were the last 3 times you punched someone. which years
As an ex boxer the list is long, but lol. I don’t lend money but if I did and they didn’t pay back or if I got cheated my response wouldn’t be to expose on Twitter using a PIO sim. That I can tell you.

Anyhow Kabhamnedbhdjjdjkba’s take that it was 100% a lie on Gordo’s part doesn’t really make sense. I mean it’s possible but there’s not a great reason why.
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07-24-2023 , 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ScotchOnDaRocks
As an ex boxer the list is long, but lol.
It shouldn't be that long. 3 items tops.
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07-24-2023 , 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by OneCrazyDuck
It shouldn't be that long. 3 items tops.
One Crazy Duck
Pointless Words
Kagajakhkdjsjajba
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07-24-2023 , 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by PointlessWords
there is more way to prove the existence of money than the records you are referencing. Additionally, there may be evidence the casino is withholding that dude cant get access to, and that evidence may help his case. I have had deposit boxes at the casino before. thanks
Yes, evidence is withheld, Imma post on twitter since it wouldn't be fair if I hired an attorney.
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07-25-2023 , 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by PointlessWords
Yea not that simple. I’ve won court cases where similar things happened. I just had to show receipts for where the money came from and then I gave my sworn statement about a couple other things.
Oddly, now I want to see receipts that you have won said court cases.

Also, this...

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Originally Posted by PointlessWords
please dont speak in absolutes, they are easy to disprove and dont help the discourse
...should be pinned to every online forum, bulletin board and Subreddit ever created.
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07-25-2023 , 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Wilbury Twist
Oddly, now I want to see receipts that you have won said court cases.

Also, this...



...should be pinned to every online forum, bulletin board and Subreddit ever created.

Not telling but I had receipts from before hand. Diffident situation but not entirely diff.

I won one case and the defendant didn’t show up and didn’t appeal.


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08-08-2023 , 11:10 AM
What's wrong with having a safe behind a false wall behind a bookshelf that has to be taken apart before access? Just don't tell your wife/gf about it.
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08-08-2023 , 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by PointlessWords
Not telling but I had receipts from before hand. Diffident situation but not entirely diff.

I won one case and the defendant didn’t show up and didn’t appeal.


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.... and I'm sure your proof of service was adequate.

Did you ever collect a dime on your default judgment, just curious.
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