You're just wrong. LOL


The minute it went to court, he can't even show that Bellagio knew there was anything in the actual box for them to be responsible for. Even if there was a presumption or responsibility (there isn't), there was no way to validate the inventory.

So there's literally no record of anything to be liable for.


With your incorrect opinion, anyone could just claim they had 100 million in the box and it's now gone. They could even take a picture of 100 million in the box and claim it's proof.

But without a Bellagio approved inventory and restricted access that Bellagio is present for an inventory after......literally means there is no way to prove what was or wasn't in the box. Which means no court will ever hold the casino responsible.

LOL. He doesn't even know how much was in the box.

If he doesn't even know, there's no way the facilitator of the box knows. And zero way of even identifying what would be paid if there was even a shred of responsibility on the casino's part.

Him "accepting the loss" likely means he's read the contract he signed and/or talked to an attorney who has confirmed that he has no recourse.




The casino, just like a bank gives you the option to deposit money with them. Where it has receipts and is insured. And just like a bank, when you decide to forego that option for a box.....you assume all responsibility after. You don't get to have your cake and eat it too. You either have to leave money on deposit with an institution and you are covered, or you don't leave it on deposit and you're not.

So he spends 2k to have a video/documentary of this incident, in the hopes of doing what? Other than the potential loss of access to MGM properties, and of course the spending of 2k.

You obviously didn’t read his thoughts on the situation and how last thing he wants is an MGM ban, which is what you’re idea would bring.

Nah, he would say "I think I had as much as $100M...but it might have been only $45M. So I'll be fair and settle for a payment of $45M, kthxbye."

He could narrate it wearing a red clown nose

Agree not a good idea

Watched Gordo on Solve 4 Why podcast yesterday and he initially says he keeps great records, then says he isn't sure how much was in box, guesses somewhere between 45k and 100k.

Must be nice to have so much money you consider keeping good records not knowing where 50k may or may not be..

Is it possible he took the money out of his box and forgot he did it?

How could someone else have accessed the box?

Said it was their box, their key didn’t work, and then the casino drills it open.

'“I can very confidently say that I did not leave my box empty the last time that I accessed it,” he told PokerNews. “Since we are in the gambling space and I know that people are curious about these sorts of things, I would venture to say that the likelihood of me having emptied out my box on my last visit, failed to make a written record of it, completely blocked the event out of my memory, and then hit the parlay of my key getting jammed is approximately 0.0025%. It's not impossible, but boy, it sure is unlikely.”'

37% of statistics are made up on the spot.

closer to 50% obv

Lmao Gordo

Pretty sure this is the likely scenario. I hadn't seen before now it was almost a year since he accessed his box.



I imagine most places have inactivity clauses where if you don't access your box every so often youll lose it (they should be contacting you to return the contents) because boxes are in high demand so you cant be hogging one and not using it. IIRC at seminole hard rock it was somewhere between 3-6 months.

lots of assumptions here. part of suing is so you can subpoena and see what really happened. Guess you havent considered that the casino may have drilled his box and kept the contents.

Do any of you people know what discovery does? Do you realize under law casinos are required to keep surveillance footage for a long time of their cashiers for reasons just like this. What is the chances there’s no surveillance showing how much money is in the box when he’s using it/how much he is depositing? There’s also going to be footage of the drilling and subsequent inventory of remaining contents. There’s also a witness as a third party that can be subpoenaed who did the drilling. A judge would obviously find a way to determine his estimation of how much is in there even if he doesn’t find Mgm totally accountable or caps their liability at some amount because it’s no longer reasonable to hold them liable for extreme amounts they would still lose the lawsuit as they are negligent.

We had this come up there used to be no cameras in the safety deposit box rooms where I played because casinos wanted to play dumb if anything happen. They put them in later so obviously regulators deemed anywhere cashiers are there has to be a camera for reasons like this. Banks are different they do not itemize what’s in safety deposit boxes and don’t have a way of confirming contents so that’s why individuals have less protection but obviously if they’re able to prove contents then they are protected from negligence. If a bank just drilled a persons box and took the contents a judge would rip into them though 100% and if you think otherwise you obviously have never gone through litigation. When you act in that bad of faith a judge has leeway to do whatever he wants basically.

Ya he’s negligent for letting the box go inactive but not fully. They are supposed to send a certified letter stating inactivity and intent to drill and they are supposed to inventory the contents after drilling and keep in their custody for a set period of time like lost property. Mgm was negligent as well and much more at fault so i doubt they’d ever win a lawsuit properly litigated but we will never know.

Look……..i had a box in the poker room area……..also had 1 in the main casino area before the made it no longer available to poker players……….i had my box for a long time at Bellagio……..12yrs approx………..so what happens if you do not access your box within 12mos?……they notify you via certified letter to the address given on your valid state ID………..after 2 attempts…….box is flat out forfeited if you do not contact or take action………and yes i know because i got a notification when i moved and responded and returned my key while getting my $100 deposit………so this also could have happened as player mentioned it had been awhile………they are suppose to record contents i believe for legal purposes but there may have been some flaws in this particular incident………just another possibility……….also………why not contact police? Why twitter? Seems odd

Incredible how so many will believe an obviously fake story just because hes a known name and high stakes player over a decent period.

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He doesnt know how much money was in the box and he cant prove anything was. Its as simple as that. There is no case here regardless of how many dense comments you make.

Yea not that simple. I’ve won court cases where similar things happened. I just had to show receipts for where the money came from and then I gave my sworn statement about a couple other things.

You just don’t know what you’re talking about. Thx


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Listened to Berkeys pod. Anyone who believes this story is brain dead lol.

I mean why couldn’t it have happened?

So what are you saying he 100% just made it up?

To those of who don’t listen to poker podcasts pls give highlights

Unless we are given a good reason to not believe this seems like a spot where it seeems we are ok to believe it happened

But before posting are we required to indicate the degree of certainty?

Can’t we just post as if we assume it has happened even if only 80% sure? But why does that matter?

And why so obviously fake? What was endgame?