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Old 10-03-2019, 11:23 PM   #2476
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re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

Stop with the keys. I'm laying 3-1 that he's not using that james bond card reader nonsense. He's tapped into the feed whether by himself or with a partner, end of story. He's a cheat (clearly), but he's not using a device to read bar codes on the cards.
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Old 10-03-2019, 11:27 PM   #2477
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I think the key and marked cards might be a little too much.

Don't all casinos use a certain brand? How did they get the exact design with markings? Are all the decks in that casino marked? Are cards reused, or discarded?
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Old 10-03-2019, 11:27 PM   #2478
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I tried to find the car keys (**** me there are a lot of poker cheat car key types, scary) and didn't manage to. Might be nothing. Not gonna spend more time on it, it isn't important imo

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I know Taylors name was dropped during the 86o hand during the graphics change, when analyzing this hand I googled and found a Stones dealer named Taylor Smith. What proof is there that hes also on the graphics team? If he is, than it definitely sounds like hes in on it.

https://www.facebook.com/StonesGambl...2290814797517/

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Taylor is facebook friends with both Mike and Justin btw, Mike removed his friends list today but I checked this earlier.
I want to caution everyone from jumping too far to conclusions here by the way, I have ZERO idea if Taylor actually is involved. I'm convinced that Justin is, ofc.
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Old 10-03-2019, 11:29 PM   #2479
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Stop with the keys. I'm laying 3-1 that he's not using that james bond card reader nonsense. He's tapped into the feed whether by himself or with a partner, end of story. He's a cheat (clearly), but he's not using a device to read bar codes on the cards.
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I think the key and marked cards might be a little too much.

Don't all casinos use a certain brand? How did they get the exact design with markings? Are all the decks in that casino marked? Are cards reused, or discarded?
While there is a good chance that is true - it should definitely be looked at.

Those are great questions that we don't know Don. If the guy in charge of the show is in charge of bringing in the special RFID cards that are only used on that table, I think those are easily to manipulate.
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Old 10-03-2019, 11:30 PM   #2480
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My question is how well do the bone conducting headphones work. By that I mean do they have to be in the perfect position to get coherent sound out of them? Does the thickness of the hat/person's hair affect sound quality? Is he simply adjusting his hat/pushing the headphones down to get better sound?
I know of some on display at a local mall near me. I can go and try them out to find out this kinda stuff.
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Old 10-03-2019, 11:30 PM   #2481
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Not Tech Savvy, but owned a mobile app company? Sure
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Old 10-03-2019, 11:32 PM   #2482
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does seem to check out tho

actually that is just a Infinity rubber cover....

https://keyprotek.com/products/infin...-qx-sku-infs4a
Ah good spot.

The logo at the top doesn't look quite right tho does it?

I know its a low quality pic but after months of daily use on a key chain full of all that crap and I can't see a scuff or the white icons chipping

https://twitter.com/Mike_Postle/stat...106122240?s=20
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Old 10-03-2019, 11:32 PM   #2483
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Not Tech Savvy, but owned a mobile app company? Sure
This didn't even register with me that he's blatantly lying there but damn you're right. Lies piled upon lies really. Sociopathic behaviour

"All I can do is basic stuff........ and a customized app disguised as a betting application, showing me everyones holecards"
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Old 10-03-2019, 11:33 PM   #2484
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I am told various production team members went through Mike who was an agent and player on PPPoker - could there be a connection there?
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Old 10-03-2019, 11:34 PM   #2485
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So you just figured out a bug in the streaming software that allows you to catch the live feed and transmit hole cards. You want to cheat a casino out of money but you need a partner. You find your man in Mike Postal. Your operating in the back running the hacks and giving Mike the secret info...

Then this guy decides to play every hand in the most exploitative way without any resemblance of balance on a LIVE STREAM. When the memes come out he is godmode, you tell him to tone it down because its too suspicious. But then you realize your man actually sucks at poker and has no idea what balance means.

Mike Possum - Good enough at poker to cheat, but not good enough to make it look like he isn't cheating.
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Old 10-03-2019, 11:34 PM   #2486
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I think the key and marked cards might be a little too much.

Don't all casinos use a certain brand? How did they get the exact design with markings? Are all the decks in that casino marked? Are cards reused, or discarded?
The RFID decks for the live stream would be different from the standard decks all the other tables use. They're not cheap - a 4-pack from Faded Spade is $600. So you'd have to get those RFID cards, then mark a deck/decks with the side markings.

Seems like a lot of trouble when the majority of his play was targeting specific holdings. Had there been significant hands where he got it in bad and turned/rivered the winner, then I think it would be worth investigating.
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Old 10-03-2019, 11:34 PM   #2487
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More interesting than Mike’s infiniti, apparently JFK recently got a new Tesla.

https://twitter.com/marlecordeiro/st...338151431?s=21

Doing pretty well for a poker floor.
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Old 10-03-2019, 11:35 PM   #2488
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There needs to be a nationwide casino "black book" that extends beyond states such as Nevada and Pennsylvania.

In PA, there are laws in place that enable regulators to make an immediate entry to the "Involuntary Exclusion List" for circumstances in which cheating/game integrity issues are suspected. Apparently that isn't the case in California and in many states.

I've read that there's a push to get Mike P. to play at another cardroom while all this plays out, but f*** that imo.

I understand some will disagree, but what is the point really of putting viewers/fans (not to mention staff & players) through that sh** show? At least until this has all been properly investigated? Maybe leave the poker tables to actual poker players for a spell?

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Old 10-03-2019, 11:35 PM   #2489
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100 percent this. I have times where i have put my keys in cup holder in table in front of me because they are stabbing me in leg in my pocket but its not everytime and i wasn't under suspicion of cheating. I'd be curious what kind of car he has and what key fob he has. Theres no shot he would think to match the brand with his car.


FWIW it’s the first thing I would think of to try and clear myself of being suspected. I drive a Toyota, make sure the cheating device is Toyota branded Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)
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Old 10-03-2019, 11:36 PM   #2490
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I think the key and marked cards might be a little too much.

Don't all casinos use a certain brand? How did they get the exact design with markings? Are all the decks in that casino marked? Are cards reused, or discarded?
Stones uses special card decks for streaming. You will notice the dealers hand shuffle these cards (apparently they don't fit properly in the automatic shuffler).
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Old 10-03-2019, 11:36 PM   #2491
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I've seen quite a bit--but nowhere near all--of the streams. I don't recall a spot where he both had crotchPhone going on and did the press-the-hat thing.

This supports Joey's mixed-strategy theory.

I'm still quite skeptical about marked decks--Occam's razor starts to apply, and I have yet to see a hand where full runouts are needed to explain his behavior.
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Old 10-03-2019, 11:37 PM   #2492
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Stop with the keys. I'm laying 3-1 that he's not using that james bond card reader nonsense. He's tapped into the feed whether by himself or with a partner, end of story. He's a cheat (clearly), but he's not using a device to read bar codes on the cards.
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I think the key and marked cards might be a little too much.

Don't all casinos use a certain brand? How did they get the exact design with markings? Are all the decks in that casino marked? Are cards reused, or discarded?
I don't think anyone is suggesting that it is 100% likely that he is using this tech. It is just within the realm of possiblity, and if they wanted to do it, they certainly could have. It will take some more analysis to decide whether it is plausible or not. Again, it just ties up why he needs the conductor head set when he has his phone, and why his keys are always on the table. It could very well be nothing, or it could lead to more damning evidence for a conviction.

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https://www.facebook.com/StonesGambl...2290814797517/

A special shout out to the Stones live technical team for the production of an incredible 17 hour marathon Live stream! Lance Hudspeth, Taylor Smith, Kenny Jones, Matt Francis, Michelle Francis, Christian Bond, Andrew Tang, Rene' M Portugal, Patrick S and Blake McDonald.

Taylor is facebook friends with both Mike and Justin btw, Mike removed his friends list today but I checked this earlier.
I want to caution everyone from jumping too far to conclusions here by the way, I have ZERO idea if Taylor actually is involved. I'm convinced that Justin is, ofc.
Good find! It doesn't make him guilty but he is definitely someone to look at.

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While there is a good chance that is true - it should definitely be looked at.

Those are great questions that we don't know Don. If the guy in charge of the show is in charge of bringing in the special RFID cards that are only used on that table, I think those are easily to manipulate.
Couldn't agree more. Its worth looking into but definitely not 100% conclusive.
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Old 10-03-2019, 11:39 PM   #2493
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I mean, $600 deck for a small game like this is crazy.
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Old 10-03-2019, 11:40 PM   #2494
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This scandal story will be shown tonight on FOX40 news Sacramento broadcast at 10PM Pacific time
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Old 10-03-2019, 11:40 PM   #2495
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So I did a small bit of sleuthing on the 86o vs 96s hand, in which the video technician changes Postle's cards from 86 to 98. Allegedly, both the 8 and 9 in this deck were assigned improper codes which caused them to register as the 8 or 6.

I fast forwarded exactly 4 hands in the stream, and what did I discover? Lo and behold, on the river, the 8 drops, and it is correctly registered in the graphics! Since this was an even number of hands since the 86o hand, I am certain that the same deck is being used. This absolutely discredits the claim that Postle had flopped an open ended straight flush draw. https://www.twitch.tv/videos/365129696?t=02h42m50s

This seems to indicate that Postle purposefully lied to the floor tech about his cards. Likely because he realized how jaw dropping his play would seem to the stream viewers. This is super suspicious!

I suspect they will change their story to say "well, actually, Postle had a different combo of 89". I will keep checking the video to see if I can rule out the possibility that all the other suits of 8 or 9 were improperly coded. In particular, it will be easy to rule out that Postle had a straight in this hand if I can check that all 4 suits of 9x were properly registering in that deck.

For example, in the same hand posted above (Postle 76 versus AA), the 9 on the turn is registering properly. Now I just have to look for the other 3 suits.

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Old 10-03-2019, 11:40 PM   #2496
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whos on their phone in the middle of a hand? how does he get his "live reads" when hes deep throating his crotch every five seconds?
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Old 10-03-2019, 11:40 PM   #2497
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He's innocent.
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Old 10-03-2019, 11:41 PM   #2498
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Stop with the keys. I'm laying 3-1 that he's not using that james bond card reader nonsense. He's tapped into the feed whether by himself or with a partner, end of story. He's a cheat (clearly), but he's not using a device to read bar codes on the cards.
This. Why do you want to add complexity to the whole schema? He was making enough money just knowing the hole cards. Second, do you imagine to introduce a marked deck every day just for this? Not only that, we don’t know if you can have a rfid deck thar also is a marked deck. This is too elaborate to be honest.
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Old 10-03-2019, 11:41 PM   #2499
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I am told various production team members went through Mike who was an agent and player on PPPoker - could there be a connection there?
of course 100%


they probably got kickbacks on the app or paid out paypal/venmo/etc.

or built up debts and opened up to the GAWD for ways of repaying and made up this scheme
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Old 10-03-2019, 11:41 PM   #2500
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The Keys

Mike tweeted this pic on the 6th August 19



On the 6th April, he was in this interview. At 1hr 55 he talks about his brand new Infiniti, which is his first new car ever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09jdsX8vkMI

Now those keys don't look like the fob for a high end brand?

They look pretty cheap. And also they look fresh, nothing at all has worn off the button icons.

Infiniti 2019 key fobs look like this.



LOL never mind he really didn’t try that hard to match it after all Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

Edit: never mind it actually looks like it’s the cover for the key fob for Infiniti based on one of the pictures in the screenshot of fobs
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