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I think m resort is perfect. I offered to go there tomorrow to check it out. No one has responded. They have huge convention areas, and are running a poker series already in mid June.

Another brilliant idea from the OP..have it in a casino that permanently CLOSED its poker room..

03-30-2015 , 01:04 PM

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And an $80 + tip RT cab ride.

03-30-2015 , 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu Ungar

Another brilliant idea from the OP..have it in a casino that permanently CLOSED its poker room..

Theyre running the largest buyin tournament outside the wsop this summer. ... genius

The ballroom they use for that event could easily house the conference either a few days prior or after their $2500 main event.

03-30-2015 , 01:29 PM

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And an $80 + tip RT cab ride.

No one cabs there. Ask the players who played the main event there the past two years.

03-30-2015 , 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by doublejoker

No one cabs there. Ask the players who played the main event there the past two years.

Why haven't they closed their cab line then?
Can you exaggerate any more?

03-30-2015 , 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by doublejoker

I KNOW they are running the Hollywood Poker Open.

But they CLOSED their Poker Room months ago..that is FACT!

I guess Reading Comprehension for Nits 101 wasn't being offered at the Community College of Southern Nevada..

03-30-2015 , 04:05 PM

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Hey, I think doublejoker (whoever the hell that is) was just trying to help.

03-31-2015 , 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Linda Johnson

The TDA is very appreciative of the offers that have come in to help with sponsorship money and/or with host locations. It does take time to get a contract but I think that there will be some news within a week or two. Please stay tuned regarding the location.

We also appreciate the offer of help with the A/V. As some of the posters have written, resort hotels require conventions to use their A/V and the cost is a lot more than we could get it through an outside company. The TDA uses a lot more than a screen and a projector

Once you have settled on a new venue, I hope the PPA, poker media, TDA, etc. will use the PR opportunity:

"Poker community snubs Las Vagas Sands Corp."
"Poker association turns down $20K from Sheldon Adelson"
"Poker players reject gift from Venetian"
"Click a mouse - not in Adelson's house!"
etc.

03-31-2015 , 09:41 AM

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Hey, I think doublejoker (whoever the hell that is) was just trying to help.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that Allen is more offended by this post than the attacks.

03-31-2015 , 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Mason Malmuth

No. If Adelson is successful, there may not be much need for a TDA. And while we at 2+2 think that Matt Savage does a great job, we also think it's best to find another location.

Best wishes,
Mason

You, of all people, are claiming that live tournament poker would cease to exist without online gaming?

03-31-2015 , 01:08 PM

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I'm going to go out on a limb and say that Allen is more offended by this post than the attacks.

Attack all you want, but this thread is helping to move the conference.

03-31-2015 , 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyGroomsTD

My 2 cents are worth exactly that, but the TDA does not have a budget. It's a non profit that exists because the board members donate time and energy to keep it alive. Free is free. There is no TDA summit if the price of a meeting room can't be paid. So the outcry needs to stop. Either pay the TDA to have the meeting somewhere else, or accept the fact that they have to meet in a place where they can afford.
Incidentally, wherever it's at, I will be there.

Couldn't agree more.

03-31-2015 , 01:42 PM

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Attack all you want, but this thread is helping to move the conference.

Or cancel it.

03-31-2015 , 02:13 PM

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Or cancel it.

Cmon. Zero chance of that. Alex already offered to foot the entire tab.

03-31-2015 , 02:54 PM

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Or cancel it.

Either option better than having it at Sheldon Aldelsons Casino.

03-31-2015 , 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevmath

Or cancel it.

Hopefully not.

03-31-2015 , 07:20 PM

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Well it maybe too late for this year but perhaps Linda and Matt could crowd fund the TDA meeting then all poker players opposed to the current location could actually contribute to its move.

03-31-2015 , 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MrFizzbin2

Well it maybe too late for this year but perhaps Linda and Matt could crowd fund the TDA meeting then all poker players opposed to the current location could actually contribute to its move.

The sad part is they didn't even seek any sponsorships/alternatives; just accepted the prior arrangement from Venetian.

03-31-2015 , 09:30 PM

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The sad part is they didn't even seek any sponsorships/alternatives; just accepted the prior arrangement from Venetian.

Speaking as a poker player, tournament director, member of the TDA, and someone who appreciates everything that you do for poker Allen, I think it would be unprofessional in bad taste to now decline the offer after having already accepted as much as I would like to see the conference held elsewhere. The Venetian treated us very well in 2013 and I won't forget the great people that worked there (Adelson aside). I agree that I would have tried to make alternate arrangements for 2015 but there has been significant action so to speak.

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03-31-2015 , 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by As2s3s4s5s

Speaking as a poker player, tournament director, member of the TDA, and someone who appreciates everything that you do for poker Allen, I think it would be unprofessional in bad taste to now decline the offer after having already accepted as much as I would like to see the conference held elsewhere. The Venetian treated us very well in 2013 and I won't forget the great people that worked there (Adelson aside). I agree that I would have tried to make alternate arrangements for 2015 but there has been significant action so to speak.

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Is this real life?

I think its in extremely bad taste that you are having it there. Wouldn't want to be unprofessional to an upstanding gentlemen like Adelson, that would be wrong.

Tournament directors that need players to have a job, spitting in the face of all the people that play their tournaments.

03-31-2015 , 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by WiCane

I made it very clear that I agree with Allen on several points and would not have booked the Venetian as my first choice if it were my decision. I am not a board member of the TDA and have absolutely zero input as to where the summit is held. I simply said that once you accept the offer it's poor taste to go back on the agreement. I think it would be a poor business decision to burn that bridge after they were great hosts in 2013. It's a matter of principle and ethics. As previously stated I would not have booked the Venetian for those very same reasons if I was the decision maker. I'm not sure if you understand where I'm coming from.

04-01-2015 , 12:05 AM

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Awful PR for the fight against Adelson if any official body within the poker industry accepts gifts from one of his properties.

Chainsaw is fighting the good fight here.

04-01-2015 , 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by MrFizzbin2

Well it maybe too late for this year but perhaps Linda and Matt could crowd fund the TDA meeting then all poker players opposed to the current location could actually contribute to its move.

All of us impacted by Adelson's actions are paying already, in one form or another. Your comments implying that poker players bear some financial responsibility for standing against Adelson and expecting poker community leaders to act in some solidarity are, quite frankly, ludicrous.

The fact that there's a free venue available is irrelevant. It's simply inappropriate to use it.

This is on Adelson and Adelson alone.

04-01-2015 , 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by As2s3s4s5s

Speaking as a poker player, tournament director, member of the TDA, and someone who appreciates everything that you do for poker Allen, I think it would be unprofessional in bad taste to now decline the offer after having already accepted as much as I would like to see the conference held elsewhere. The Venetian treated us very well in 2013 and I won't forget the great people that worked there (Adelson aside). I agree that I would have tried to make alternate arrangements for 2015 but there has been significant action so to speak.

I don't think Adeslon is deserving of this respect. If you're looking for an excuse that agrees with your sense of fairness, how about his actions since acceptance of the offer, such as his push for last week's biased House subcommittee hearing?

And, of course, one could say it would be unprofessional and in bad taste to hold this at Venetian in light of poker community opposition, not to mention their anti-poker actions.