Do you understand that the Venetian poker room makes little (IF ANY) money off the rake?

Anyone who spends 2-3 nights in the Venetian / Palazzo hotels will make Adelson way more money than someone who plays in their poker room.

You (or other people here) being mad at the players playing poker at the Venetian make me laugh. The general public do not know about the online poker "plight" and worse, they don't care because they are either of the mindset that "if it doesn't affect me, I don't care" and "online gambling should be illegal anyways".

Go to your general facebook posting about Venetian and/or Las Vegas places to go. They simply do not care..

IMO, The only way for online poker to come back to the states (in the near future (~5years) is to have a Sands property online poker site (that is heavily regulated by the USA government). Or Adelson needs to die ASAP. That's pretty much what you people are looking at. Anyone who is a smart gambler should take the odds that online poker will not be back in the USA until after 2020.

I don't know about you, but I am tired of fighting a pointless fight and giving support to the "PPA" when they have literally done nothing.

Your past, present, future is bought and you people don't have the money, power or balls to take it back.

Not only does DNegs disapprove of the First Card Off The Deck Rule, but I saw him take his seat at Bay 101 about fifteen seconds after the first card was dealt, he pulled his cards toward himself, and he played the hand.

Sure, the other players and the dealer should have spoken up. But shouldn't a true ambassador want to play by the rules even if/when no one else says anything about it?

so true !!!

(plus he gets a couple hundred more people in his Casino)

no way this should happen at the Venetian

.....and to add insult to potential injury, they will be playing a Poker Tournament one night during the conference.

Now, this is fine......have a blast........play some poker....but for the love of the Poker Gods......not at Sheldon Adelsons joint.........not as The TDA

Who cares where the TDA has its meeting? It's a meeting!!

The TDA is nothing more than a committee, it is not a governing body in Poker by any stretch of the imagination. I say this respectfully, because I admire and appreciate all that serve on it, and the work they've done to produce rules standards in poker.

But the TDA is a Bull without balls, and it will remain relatively insignificant with respect to a players' rights in tournament play, until it can muster leverage with the venues and hosts that employ its rules. The TDA (to date) has offered itself in nothing more than an advisory role within the poker industry, offering no player protections in tournament play whatsoever.

And since at this point, Poker rules will not change significantly, beyond ongoing refinement. Making this, ...just a meeting. And the only people bothered about where its annual meeting is held are people that think of the TDA as being something that it's not.

It's a meeting, let it go. Sands or Hooters, so what.

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This is not an important distinction. Accepting the support of an organization with such an aggressive political presence is a tacit acceptance of its politics.

Adelson has vowed to "spend whatever it takes" to ensure online poker is never legal in the US. Pretending his efforts to support the TDA have nothing to do with that campaign is willfully ignorant.

i'll bet you a package of teddy kgb's oreos that sheldon adelson has never heard of the TDA and is unaware of the venetian's offer to host.

Instead of just announcing that the conference was already scheduled at Venetian and then backtracking and soliciting/accepting offers to move it, wasn't the play to tweet something like this first?

We currently have an offer to run the @pokertda summit @venetianpoker but would appreciate sponsorship or an offer to move elsewhere.

Alex, you Tweeted, "I don't understand why TDA board host this event at Venetian, now that Kathy is away." What happened to Kathy Raymond as Executive Director of Poker Operations at the Venetian? What is the most likely venue for the TDA Summit?

1) Aria (or other MGM property)
2) 2+2 warehouse at Henderson (or other connection through Mason Malmuth)
3) Rio (or other Caesars property)
4) Other location sponsored by PokerStars/Amaya and/or GPI
5) Poker pro's home such as Ryan Reiss, Zo Karim, or Jeff Madsen?
:

When you're already in a hole, stop digging.

M resort would be a great venue. Plenty of conference space, and a huge poker event going on there in mid June already.

I live two miles from there and can inquire if Alex has an interest to go there.

(I'm also sure they don't charge $5000 for av equipment rentals)

+1

Good to see this is changing locations.

Haven't read through this entire thread however if the conference is held offsite and AV is an issue, I am director of operations for an AV company based in LA. The owner of the company and myself are lifelong players and we'd be willing to provide AV services to the conference at cost. PM me if anyone would like to disscuss this as we would love to be apart of this and help in anyway we can

Depending on the size of screen and quality of projector it could be any where from $800 or so per day all the way up to and more than 5k per day for an extremely large screen with HD projection.

Allen,
You're speaking like an authority on something that you have no experience with. Conference facility AV equipment rental fees are atrocious. The conference space is negligible. They make all their money on equipment rentals and food (which can only be purchased through them)

I think Allen has posted and/or tweeted then apologised more than anyone can think of.

Hmmm perhaps you should run for a leadership position in the TDA, oh wait then you wouldn't be able second guess all of the decisions others make.

Always easier to see the play after the play has been made.

Props to Allen then

Haha the hashtag made me laugh.

Anyone who last played at Venetian prior to 2013 (about when Adelson became highly vocal against online poker) is certainly not being hypocritical when voicing their displeasure in this situation in 2015. Nothing to apologize for.

'Tis why my guess is most of those who replied to Matt's announcement are similar to you — maybe they once played at Venetian because of the tournaments or the room itself, but almost certainly have stayed away in the last two years.

So much energy invested into something so little and symbolic.

Las Vegas Sands Corporation had revenues of $14.5 billion, up nearly 6% percent over 2013.

I'm sure they are stressed about the loss of one small meeting.

But hey, continue on with the boycott if it makes you feel good.

Allen has a lot of ideas pop into his head and his first reaction is to jump to Twitter, Facebook or 2+2 to document them. What he doesn't do is actually think through his ideas before posting.
Far more often than not, they end up being total rubbish.
Sometimes, more by luck than judgement, one if his ideas is decent and he refers to these 'successes' to try to justify his rubbish ones.

Monkeys, typewriters and Shakespeare spring to mind.

And I'll wager that the $5K sum includes more than a projector and screen.

Here are videos from the 2013 summit:
http://www.pokertda.com/the-poker-td...tda-summit-vi/

Obviously, mileage will vary, but I chose to use Rentech Solutions as a price guide. They serve Las Vegas (among dozens of other major cities). I've never used them but I know a couple people who have. Here are the two-day rental rates for the following:

Wireless mic rentals: $89 each

Mic stands: $29 each

Wired mic rentals: $49 each (the main table appears to use wired mics, the room mics where people can pose questions, etc. are wireless)
Mixer: $99

XLR accessories: $19. This would actually be one of the most expensive lines on the equipment budget. I see a lot of cable runs in that room. Can't imagine how many cables, connectors, splitters, etc. are used there.

PA system: $69 to $129, but the room probably has house sound already in place.

LCD projector for 1024x768 native resolution: $129-149.

Projector screens: $89-99. This event appears to use rear projection screens which, in my experience, cost about that ballpark for a two-day rental.

Depending on how much of each they use, I could see this eat up almost half that $5K total. But wait, there's one more thing to pay for...

Professional video recording/production: as it turns out, Rob Perelman — one of the people who replied to Savage's Twitter announcement — is the very guy that did the video production. So he could tell you exactly what he charged to do this event.

Something something broken clock something twice a day, too.