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Lynne Ji to beat ACR 200z? Lynne Ji to beat ACR 200z?

12-08-2022 , 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerPlayingDunces
Yeah, still a winrate though, so technically a win!, because there's no such term as a loserate.
Thanks Paisting
12-08-2022 , 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerPlayingDunces
Yeah, still a winrate though, so technically a win!, because there's no such term as a loserate.
well no one ever said it had a positive win rate. Would be funny Lynne claims a win after being down at the end. Assuming she's gonna be down
12-09-2022 , 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Carnivore
Why does anyone choose to play in games like this?
Ego
12-09-2022 , 03:45 AM
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Originally Posted by adam levine
Ego
If you're able to break even in the long run would be a decent income after rakeback. If you're netting 3bb/100 after RB you could potentially make somewhere between $30-$60 per hour, without considering The Beast rewards... but yeah if you can beat these games you probably should do something to find better options.
12-31-2022 , 12:58 AM
I don't think she could beat 10NL Blitz on ACR either
12-31-2022 , 01:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Jayjeee
Hello. I want to give you my view of the 200b as it is right now:

There are different groups:
- RTA cheaters
- Regs (all about the same, some a bit worse than others with some leaks but nothing huge)
- Bots
- Fish

Will lose a little bit vs the supposed RTA cheaters. They are a minority I think so it won't matter too much.
Won't make much money of regs either. Most regs don't make many or any fundamental mistakes, just lots of frequency mistakes based on whatever heuristics they are executing for hours on end. Also probably lots of sizing and timing tells. However, it's not worth studying any of the regs in depth to gain some sort of win rate vs them although I think it's possible. If you play ABC poker you will roughly b/e vs them. If you develop reads vs some of the high volume regs you can go for some crazy out of line plays but be aware that if you are wrong it's quickly a mega punt.

Imo should focus on bots and fish. Plenty of bots in the pool that all play in the exact same way and if you are aware of their algorithm you can gain win rate through that. The fact that there are plenty of bots playing high volume has spread a bit and people discussed it in some discords so a lot of their leaks got hammered by regs which led to whoever is in charge of the bots patching some of their leaks and them changing at a faster rate. Then there are still some fish especially if you focus on weekends and european night times.

Overall I think pool is pretty dead. If you have other options almost certainly better to go with those. Think 2 tabling and maximising lots of spots you can still get like 5bb especially if you develop strong reads on high volume regs for that extra bit of wr. But likely not worth the time. Also think it will only get worse.

Happy to elaborate on any point made in more depth if someone cares.
Sounds about right.
06-09-2023 , 09:29 PM


Been grinding 200b again for the last month or so. I changed my mind about 200b, I don't think it's super tough anymore.
Playing 5 tables and soon once my gg poker account is set up we will play 9 200 fast tables to get hands up to 1500/h+.
Think getting hands/hour up close to 2000 is the most important thing when focusing on making money.
Will add all-in or fold & reg tables on the side to go for 5 star next yr on acr.


I think playing 9 200 fast tables is also better than focusing on higher stakes where games are not constantly running or breaking and also I don't know how to play HU.
But we will still try to add 600-2k tables on the side particularly next yr to make it easier to get to 5 stars.


Paying ~4.25bb/100 in rake and getting ~3bb/100 in rb total right now. Idk how much it would be reaching 5 stars but the difference definitely will be immense so it will be worth to go for it.

Last edited by Jayjeee; 06-09-2023 at 09:51 PM.
06-09-2023 , 10:08 PM
I hope WPN changes their reg table lobby system. It currently is very annoying and inconveniences the grind.
Alternatively, they could consider allowing 8 blitz tables but I can see why they wouldn't want that.
06-09-2023 , 10:17 PM
Think 2000 h/hour is managable, too.
If after rb you had a total of 5bb/100 (will likely be higher) you still make 20 * 2 * 5 = 200/hr
Think 5bb/100 is almost having 0 tbl winnings or <1bb/wr.

Which be very happy with and as I said I think after rb my wr will be higher even when 9 tabling fast + couple of reg tables / all-in or fold.

Don't see a better way to make money than that.

Let's say we grind hard and play 200 hours per month. And we do that at 3bb/100 tbl winnings and 4bb/100 rb so total of 7bb/100.
Then at 1500 hands/hour we would make

15 * 2 * 7 = 210/hr
And thus 42k/month.

Think that's quite optimistic but possible if I rly manage to grind 200hr/month.

I think I can do that but I am getting frustrated with how long it takes my affiliate to get me on ****ing gg poker ready to punt.

Last edited by Jayjeee; 06-09-2023 at 10:31 PM.
06-09-2023 , 10:31 PM
you can play 2000 hands/hr @ 200nl. Or 500 quality hands @1knl.

You can try this but seems impossible to sustain that wr over a larger sample if you play that many hands per hour
06-09-2023 , 10:33 PM
Reg tables on WPN are always breaking, don't run constantly and what not. 200 fast is always running.

I will play 1k reg tables but only on the side to rake 180k/yr on WPN to get 5stars there.

And 500 hands/hr at 1k is quite optimistic. Probably a huge huzzle to get that volume in at reg tables at 1k.

Also, and that's a very underrated point: You are much less of a victim to variance.

Last edited by Jayjeee; 06-09-2023 at 10:39 PM.
06-10-2023 , 09:54 AM
but wait, does lynne ji beat acr 200z?
06-10-2023 , 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Slugant
but wait, does lynne ji beat acr 200z?
She said on a streamed cash game she failed pretty miserably and gave up.

Edit: I'd pretty happily bet on Jayjee at >5bb/100 over Lynne/5T live reg >neg5bb/100. I played 200b a bunch recently and agree with what Jay said in his posts about the recent pool/possibilities.
06-10-2023 , 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Slugant
but wait, does lynne ji beat acr 200z?
Her challenge ended long ago and to probably noones suprise she got clapped.
06-10-2023 , 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Jayjeee
Reg tables on WPN are always breaking, don't run constantly and what not. 200 fast is always running.

I will play 1k reg tables but only on the side to rake 180k/yr on WPN to get 5stars there.

And 500 hands/hr at 1k is quite optimistic. Probably a huge huzzle to get that volume in at reg tables at 1k.

Also, and that's a very underrated point: You are much less of a victim to variance.
you need to make a blog again jayjee
06-10-2023 , 04:32 PM
You mean the one on 2+2 or on Zenith?

Just checked out my very first blog here when I was starting. Memories.

Warning: Read it at your own risk. It's mentally challenging.

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/1...ghlight=jayjee
06-10-2023 , 05:08 PM
jayjeee any tips on how to improve? do you study MDA?
06-10-2023 , 06:48 PM
dont get the win a showdown graph, what is it meaning? you just lose or win when you call river and see each others cards? where does that line need to be
06-10-2023 , 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Jayjeee


Been grinding 200b again for the last month or so. I changed my mind about 200b, I don't think it's super tough anymore.
Playing 5 tables and soon once my gg poker account is set up we will play 9 200 fast tables to get hands up to 1500/h+.
Think getting hands/hour up close to 2000 is the most important thing when focusing on making money.
Will add all-in or fold & reg tables on the side to go for 5 star next yr on acr.


I think playing 9 200 fast tables is also better than focusing on higher stakes where games are not constantly running or breaking and also I don't know how to play HU.
But we will still try to add 600-2k tables on the side particularly next yr to make it easier to get to 5 stars.


Paying ~4.25bb/100 in rake and getting ~3bb/100 in rb total right now. Idk how much it would be reaching 5 stars but the difference definitely will be immense so it will be worth to go for it.
It’s funny, when I increase tables my red line goes up and my blue line goes down too.
06-10-2023 , 11:33 PM
tons of those tips, I might brainstorm some and respond in more depth some time

Yeah I do MDA
06-11-2023 , 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Slugant
but wait, does lynne ji beat acr 200z?
Yeah I was skimming through the thread and saw someone posted her graph earlier

06-12-2023 , 01:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Wumpy
Yeah I was skimming through the thread and saw someone posted her graph earlier



Should take the updated graph at least

WAS A GOOD WEEKEND
WE PLAYED WITH WHALES
WE PLAYED DEEP
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06-12-2023 , 01:54 AM
Dk how these games are beatable...

No fish and only solid regulars.

06-12-2023 , 01:57 AM
if the flush over flush hand is something that qualifies as a fish play then it's a dry pool
06-12-2023 , 02:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Baracus
if the flush over flush hand is something that qualifies as a fish play then it's a dry pool
I remembered it was a rec but for some reason I thought he called from the SB.

You are right, the hand in itself isn't fishy.

      
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