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Jungleman getting destroyed by unknown Swede (isildur's new ft account?) on 4 tables of PLO Jungleman getting destroyed by unknown Swede (isildur's new ft account?) on 4 tables of PLO

02-10-2011 , 09:06 AM
He had to run out of rungoot eventually
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02-10-2011 , 09:10 AM
Perfect time for Durrrr to jump in and get some money back?
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02-10-2011 , 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by chinz
So, you think it's likely that Viktor Blom is risking million dollar contract with PokerStars just to play 25/50 games against really tough reg (who also plays on PokerStars). Give me one good reason why'd he play Jungle at FTP instead of PS.
It's probably as likely as Phil ivey "risking his equity in FTP" (lol) just to play some tournaments on stars...

Also, "isildur1 playing exclusively on stars" is different from "Victor blom playing exclusively on stars".
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02-10-2011 , 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by jimpo
Also, "isildur1 playing exclusively on stars" is different from "Victor blom playing exclusively on stars".
Quoting PokerStars so you can stop with these useless "Isil != Blom" posts:
"Viktor ‘Isildur1’ Blom is the world’s most infamous high-stakes online cash game player, and now you can watch him play exclusively at PokerStars. The SuperStar Showdown will see Isildur1 take on all-comers in high stakes action."

I just find it weird how so many people think that either PokerStars doesn't care even though they are advertising that he plays exclusively on PS or Blom is breaking his PS contract terms just to play 25/50 against jungle.

Either of those options sounds far less likely (obv not impossible) than the simplest explanation, lindqvro isn't Viktor Blom.


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Also even if he was Isildur1, it would probably mean he's playing on somebody elses account, not on renamed Isildur1 account. lindvqro has played some tourneys last year and I doubt FTP would make some smallstakes recreational(?) tournament player change his name just so PS pro could pick exactly that name. Just doesn't make any sense to break FTP TOS and his PS deal just to play jungly at 25/50.

Last edited by chinz; 02-10-2011 at 09:36 AM.
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02-10-2011 , 09:29 AM
If true, he should of changed his name to Isildur2 imo.
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02-10-2011 , 09:31 AM
lindqvro is

Spoiler:
Chuck Norris
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02-10-2011 , 09:31 AM
If he was playing nosebleeds then there may be some validity to this thread, but there's no way he's changing his FTP SN just to play jungle 25/50 when they could easily be playing it on stars.

No common sense ITT





But hey, big news..... someone other than isildur1 had a 25/50 heater..... I bet that's never happened before..... ever ever ever.
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02-10-2011 , 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by chinz
Quoting PokerStars so you can stop with these useless "Isil != Blom" posts:
"Viktor ‘Isildur1’ Blom is the world’s most infamous high-stakes online cash game player, and now you can watch him play exclusively at PokerStars. The SuperStar Showdown will see Isildur1 take on all-comers in high stakes action."

I just find it weird how so many people think that either PokerStars doesn't care even though they are advertising that he plays exclusively on PS or Blom is breaking his PS contract terms just to play 25/50 against jungle.

Either of those options sounds far less likely (obv not impossible) than the simplest explanation, lindqvro isn't Viktor Blom.
makes sense to me
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02-10-2011 , 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by chinz
Quoting PokerStars so you can stop with these useless "Isil != Blom" posts:
"Viktor ‘Isildur1’ Blom is the world’s most infamous high-stakes online cash game player, and now you can watch him play exclusively at PokerStars. The SuperStar Showdown will see Isildur1 take on all-comers in high stakes action."

I just find it weird how so many people think that either PokerStars doesn't care even though they are advertising that he plays exclusively on PS or Blom is breaking his PS contract terms just to play 25/50 against jungle.

Either of those options sounds far less likely (obv not impossible) than the simplest explanation, lindqvro isn't Viktor Blom.
It's really not that strange. All the "exclusive" pros, like ivey, do it regardless.

Also you have to realize it's Victor. He does a lot of stupid things, like 9 table nosebleeds vs the top 3 of the world, or keep playing without sleep vs cardrunners tag team. Why do you think he wouldn't do something "stupid" in this matter?
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02-10-2011 , 09:34 AM
Iwanttobelieve.jpeg
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02-10-2011 , 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by chinz
Quoting PokerStars so you can stop with these useless "Isil != Blom" posts:
"Viktor ‘Isildur1’ Blom is the world’s most infamous high-stakes online cash game player, and now you can watch him play exclusively at PokerStars. The SuperStar Showdown will see Isildur1 take on all-comers in high stakes action."

I just find it weird how so many people think that either PokerStars doesn't care even though they are advertising that he plays exclusively on PS or Blom is breaking his PS contract terms just to play 25/50 against jungle.

Either of those options sounds far less likely (obv not impossible) than the simplest explanation, lindqvro isn't Viktor Blom.
Didn't i CLEARLY dispute this same exact post from you earlier? (which you had no response to). I mean, come on man.

Give us ONE legal way Pokerstars can prove if Viktor is playing on Full Tilt or not. Speculation means NOTHING. People spent months and months trying to figure out who he was on FT all of last year and it'd be no different this time around. A term that can't be enforced or regulated, isn't much of term, now is it?

Like I said, please name one way Pokerstars could possibly enforce that term. Until you do, shut up with this.

Last edited by ArcadianSky; 02-10-2011 at 09:40 AM. Reason: I'm not claiming it's Viktor at all, just saying that that term isn't the basis of good reasoning.
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02-10-2011 , 09:38 AM
Very unlikely to be Isildur1 IMO. Hope he goes on to tear up the nosebleeds whoever it is

1. Isildur prefers 6 tables, unlikely that jungleman would have refused to play 6 if Lind asked
2. After Winning 250K Isildur would be playing 200/400!!
3. Chat differently
4. Isil did not Run it Twice
5. Why wouldnt they just playu at stars??
6. All swedes are crazy aggressive!

Remember the Ziigmund chat at 100/200 once, went something like this...
Ziig: 3 tbls 200/400
Isil: Dont have br
Isil: Ok 4 tables, i'l sit

Those were the days!!

Last edited by buckyohare1985; 02-10-2011 at 09:45 AM.
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02-10-2011 , 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by IupsWINg
lindqvro is

Spoiler:
Chuck Norris
Spoiler:
I have never seen Lindqvro, Blom, and Norris together in the same room. It must be Norris.
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02-10-2011 , 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by ArcadianSky
Give us ONE legal way Pokerstars can prove if Viktor is playing on Full Tilt or not.
First of all, I expect that Viktor Blom has enough class to honor the agreement he has made with PokerStars. Even if he thinks it's unlikely he gets caught, that doesn't mean he's going to "cheat" PokerStars just to play Jungleman12 at FTP. Do you really expect people to break the terms of million dollar contracts (without any real gain!) just because they think they are likely to get away with it?

Also lindqvro is not a new account, it has played some tourneys earlier, so if that is Isildur1 playing it means he is actually cheating and breaking FTP TOS in addition to his PS contract (unless PS allows this, which is unlikely given the quotes)

PS/FTP might also give each other some information when trying to solve cheating/multiaccounting cases, I wouldn't be that surprised if they'd confirm whether he is Blom or not is PS requested to know.

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Like I said, please name one way Pokerstars could possibly enforce that term. Until you do, shut up with this
You really think PokerStars doesn't have a way to figure out whether it's Blom or not? Viktor Blom has made some really good contacts with PokerStars and he probably has the possibility to continue his sponsorship for a long time. Do you really think playing jungle at 25/50 is enough of a reason to compromise that?
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02-10-2011 , 09:45 AM
How did PS verify Blom was Isi? Did he go to the Isle of Man to log on to his FTP acct in front of the PS execs?

I know it's a silly question, but I'm curious as to the logistics of the verification process.
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02-10-2011 , 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by chinz
Quoting PokerStars so you can stop with these useless "Isil != Blom" posts:
"Viktor ‘Isildur1’ Blom is the world’s most infamous high-stakes online cash game player, and now you can watch him play exclusively at PokerStars. The SuperStar Showdown will see Isildur1 take on all-comers in high stakes action."

I just find it weird how so many people think that either PokerStars doesn't care even though they are advertising that he plays exclusively on PS or Blom is breaking his PS contract terms just to play 25/50 against jungle.

Either of those options sounds far less likely (obv not impossible) than the simplest explanation, lindqvro isn't Viktor Blom.


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Also even if he was Isildur1, it would probably mean he's playing on somebody elses account, not on renamed Isildur1 account. lindvqro has played some tourneys last year and I doubt FTP would make some smallstakes recreational(?) tournament player change his name just so PS pro could pick exactly that name. Just doesn't make any sense to break FTP TOS and his PS deal just to play jungly at 25/50.

This. Also if he wanted to play jungle 4 tables of 5k plo. He could just do exactly that on stars
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02-10-2011 , 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by chinz
First of all, I expect that Viktor Blom has enough class to honor the agreement he has made with PokerStars.
You expect him to have enough class through your extensive relationship with him and conversations that have led you to believe he is a top class act, is that correct?

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Originally Posted by chinz
You really think PokerStars doesn't have a way to figure out whether it's Blom or not?
Like I said, give me a METHOD as to how Pokerstars would find out. Stating "You really think PStars don't have a way to find out?", isn't a good reason. So, go ahead, and thoroughly explain to me how they would find out (since you believe they're capable of it). I'd like it explained to me how that term could be enforced in any way, shape or form. Thanks.
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02-10-2011 , 09:49 AM
might be compris, from sweden won 150 k on stars yesterday, had just signed up for stars to
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02-10-2011 , 09:51 AM
lol Arcardian Sky. Use your imagination. The world of poker site operation would be a fairly tight knit community. People talk :P
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02-10-2011 , 09:52 AM
I don't think the question should be, Can he get away with it? More, What would motivate him to do it in the first place?

I could probably get away with a lot of things, but there are certain things I wouldn't comprimise in the process, which I'm sure is the same for most people.

If I were him, I doubt I would compromise a sweet deal with Pokerstars to play an opponent I can play at PS anyway at the same stakes. It just makes no sense.
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02-10-2011 , 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Yaksha
lol Arcardian Sky. Use your imagination. The world of poker site operation would be a fairly tight knit community. People talk :P
Do they? Is that why it took us over a year to find out who isildur1 was for certain?

It's not hard to get a P.O. Box and register something under a friend or relatives name. This isn't rocket-science procedure.
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02-10-2011 , 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by ArcadianSky
You expect him to have enough class through your extensive relationship with him and conversations that have led you to believe he is a top class act, is that correct?
I think it would be extremely stupid (both moneywise and morally) and there is no real gain, he could just play 25/50 against jungle at PokerStars. It's not like he couldn't arrange a match there. There is no motivation for him whatsoever to do it.

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Like I said, give me A REASON as to how Pokerstars would find out. Stating "You really think PStars don't have a way to find out?", isn't a good reason. So, go ahead, and thoroughly explain to me how they would find out (since you believe they're capable of it). Thanks.
Just like everyone knew who Isildur1 was even in xmas 2009... Breaking his contract without any real reason would really be a really disrespectful move, so even if they couldn't legally prove that he is VB to terminate the deal, it would most certainly mean that PS wouldn't be offering him any deals in the future.

Do you actually have any reason to think that he has no intention of respecting the contract he made with PokerStars?


Anyway, let's leave it at this... obv neither of us is changing our opinion and we'll probably hear more in a few days.
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02-10-2011 , 09:55 AM
NO WAY PokerStars would ever kill their contract with Blom, even if he did break all the rules. This guy is worth a lot. And pulling a stunt like this (on FullTilt) and crushing the Tilt guys would just add to the aura because that will make people watch Isildur1 on Stars even more. It would probably take Blom being seen on webcam under a different SN to ever put Stars in that kind of position.
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02-10-2011 , 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by ArcadianSky
Do they? Is that why it took us over a year to find out who isildur1 was for certain?

It's not hard to get a P.O. Box and register something under a friend or relatives name. This isn't rocket-science procedure.
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02-10-2011 , 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by chinz
I think it would be extremely stupid (both moneywise and morally) and there is no real gain, he could just play 25/50 against jungle at PokerStars. It's not like he couldn't arrange a match there. There is no motivation for him whatsoever to do it.



Just like everyone knew who Isildur1 was even in xmas 2009... Breaking his contract without any real reason would really be a really disrespectful move, so even if they couldn't legally prove that he is VB to terminate the deal, it would most certainly mean that PS wouldn't be offering him any deals in the future.

Do you actually have any reason to think that he has no intention of respecting the contract he made with PokerStars?


Anyway, let's leave it at this... obv neither of us is changing our opinion and we'll probably hear more in a few days.
You're failing to understand the debate. This has NOTHING to do with Blom, I could care less about him or whether this alias is him or not. This has to do with the term that you keep repeating over and over again, yet are unable to provide a single way that it could be enforced.

So I ask, again...please explain to me, since you are using that term as the basis of your argument, how it could be enforced (not just with Blom, but ANYONE). I'm not asking to necessarily prove a point, I'm asking because I truly don't understand how a term like that has any weight and want it explained to me.
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