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02-10-2011 , 06:55 AM

#51

tomosaurus

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meanwhile lind scoops a 90k pot at 25/50 lol

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02-10-2011 , 06:58 AM

#52

chinz

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Originally Posted by jinzerd

lol @ people both negreanu and greenstien said that ps told them they were allowed to play on other sites. obviously isil can aswell also ftp would very easily change his sn.

PokerStars actually has said "Isildur1 plays online poker exclusively on PokerStars" etc several times.

Arcadian: That (doing it without PSs permission) would mean he's never again getting any kind of sponsorship deal from PS, even if they couldn't find enough evidence to terminate the deal immediatly... and fwiw I don't think it's really that hard for them to prove it. If Isildur1 is playing at other sites, it's 100% sure OK'd by Stars.

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02-10-2011 , 06:58 AM

#53

Kuja900

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Originally Posted by 27AllIn

why would he play on FTP instead of stars? Is jungleman planning to sign with ftp or something?

Isildur had home field advantage I guess their last session, Jungleman may think its only fair the next round is on his site.

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02-10-2011 , 06:59 AM

#54

ArcadianSky

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Originally Posted by Kuja900

Isildur had home field advantage I guess their last session, Jungleman may think its only fair the next round is on his site.

Possible.

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02-10-2011 , 07:00 AM

#55

poofinger

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Originally Posted by chinz

PokerStars actually has said "Isildur1 plays online poker exclusively on PokerStars" etc several times.

Arcadian: That (doing it without PSs permission) would mean he's never again getting any kind of sponsorship deal from PS, even if they couldn't find enough evidence to terminate the deal immediatly... and fwiw I don't think it's really that hard for them to prove it. If Isildur1 is playing at other sites, it's 100% sure OK'd by Stars.

Maybe Blom is allowed to play other sites.

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02-10-2011 , 07:01 AM

#56

Shining Fountain

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The only reason I can see Isildur playing on FTP is because he knows jungleman has a much bigger roll there. Otherwise this makes no sense.

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02-10-2011 , 07:02 AM

#57

Kuja900

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The fact that both players were so aggressive so quickly means they are obviously familiar with each other. Its without a doubt a smurf (and quite probably isildur at that) and not a newcomer in my mind.

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02-10-2011 , 07:02 AM

#58

tomosaurus

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Originally Posted by Shining Fountain

The only reason I can see Isildur playing on FTP is because he knows jungleman has a much bigger roll there. Otherwise this makes no sense.

maybe he really really wants that run it twice option lol

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02-10-2011 , 07:02 AM

#59

chinz

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Originally Posted by poofinger

Maybe Blom is allowed to play other sites.

Isn't that exactly what I said in the last sentence?

There's a chance that he is allowed to anonymously play on other sites, but I think it's really unlikely that he would be playing without permission from PS. Especially when playing as low as 25/50 and against someone who also plays at PS.

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Originally Posted by tomosaurus

maybe he really really wants that run it twice option lol

(I can't rail atm)
Is lindqvro running it twice? If I remember right Isildur1 didn't RIT.

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02-10-2011 , 07:03 AM

#60

Kuja900

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Originally Posted by poofinger

Maybe Blom is allowed to play other sites.

That is true they never said Blom can only play at stars. They only said Isildur1 which explains his different name.

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02-10-2011 , 07:03 AM

#61

xmykro

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Originally Posted by Shining Fountain

The only reason I can see Isildur playing on FTP is because he knows jungleman has a much bigger roll there. Otherwise this makes no sense.

Thats the reason. Jungleman has a million + roll on FTP, and he sits at tables throughout the day.

On stars Jungleman (w00kiez) has a limited roll, and he doesn't sit at any tables waiting for action.

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02-10-2011 , 07:05 AM

#62

Kuja900

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Originally Posted by chinz

Isn't that exactly what I said in the last sentence?

I'm going to just list all the evidence I know of in favor of it being isildur:

1. Stylistically this guy is a mirror image of isi (very aggressive)
2. Plays Isildur's most common game and stake
3. From Sweden, possible he just did not update his location on this account.
4.Both him and Jungleman are familiar with each other and very comfortable getting it in with marginal holdings.

edit: as a poster said above me it sounds like Isildur decided to go hunting Jungleman and that big wad of cash he has on his FTP account

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02-10-2011 , 07:06 AM

#63

tomosaurus

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Originally Posted by chinz

(I can't rail atm)
Is lindqvro running it twice? If I remember right Isildur1 didn't RIT.

Yea he is, the plot thinkens

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02-10-2011 , 07:06 AM

#64

Masq

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Originally Posted by chinz

PokerStars actually has said "Isildur1 plays online poker exclusively on PokerStars" etc several times.

That is 100% true yet this could also be him. I hope you appreciate why.

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02-10-2011 , 07:08 AM

#65

iPLOwgirls

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Originally Posted by Shining Fountain

Why would Isildur play at FTP when as others have stated he can play at Stars getting rakeback and an hourly wage? It's not as if jungleman doesn't have a Stars account.

[ ] Someone who has lost multi millions of dollars in a single session is worried about rakeback.

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02-10-2011 , 07:10 AM

#66

Shining Fountain

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Originally Posted by iPLOwgirls

[ ] Someone who has lost multi millions of dollars in a single session is worried about rakeback.

lol okay, point taken

this match is ****ing crazy. i'm pretty convinced now that this is isildur.

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02-10-2011 , 07:12 AM

#67

Kuja900

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So with other stars pros stating they are allowed to play at other sites and all the advertising saying that only "Isildur1" and not "Viktor Blom" plays exclusively at stars I think its reasonable to claim that Blom's contract would not be jeopardized playing under a disguised name over at fulltilt.

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02-10-2011 , 07:12 AM

#68

PimpLotta

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Originally Posted by insidemanpoker

Lindqvro: did u call river-bet at kk flop ?
jungleman12: yes
Lindqvro: with what
jungleman12: AA
Lindqvro: nh
jungleman12: raelly not in the mood for cliches

Isildur would never say anything like this

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02-10-2011 , 07:15 AM

#69

jinzerd

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i like jm but daaamn ihes getting flatout raped.

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02-10-2011 , 07:17 AM

#70

Shining Fountain

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inb4 lindqvro takes his entire winnings from this session and sits with Antonius at 500/1000

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02-10-2011 , 07:18 AM

#71

moki

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I find it highly unlikely that this is Isildur1

But hey, ya never know. He might have been over at a friend's house, and the exchange went something like this:

Blom: "Oh hey, you have a FTP account?"
Friend: "jah"
Blom: "Cool. Watch this."

...and much hilarity ensues.

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02-10-2011 , 07:18 AM

#72

chinz

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Originally Posted by Masq

That is 100% true yet this could also be him. I hope you appreciate why.

Yes, I'm obviously not denying the possibility. I just don't think it's as likely as some ppl here seem to think. Stakes/playingstyle is similar to Isildur1 but there's also many things against him being Isildur1.

This speculation is a bit useless with this little info, we'll probably know a lot more in few days/weeks.

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02-10-2011 , 07:18 AM

#73

The Detonator

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there is no reason it cant be isildur

stars allow some of their pros to play on other sites if they wish, Viktor was a big marketing tool for them, theres no way he would let them take away his Ivey/Antoniuos and Durrrr action so he can play 25/50 HU against Isak

the account would be for those types of players, Jungleman has his role on FTP, so he plays him while he has a chance

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02-10-2011 , 07:18 AM

#74

Vuggie

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Originally Posted by chinz

even if he is playing on FTP anonymously under another screen name without PS' permission and PS knows about it, do you really think PS would terminate his deal?

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02-10-2011 , 07:22 AM

#75

ArcadianSky

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If it does actually exist in paper, the "exclusivity" term is 100% impossible to enforce, unless Stars sets up camera's in their players homes or starts hacking their computers.

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