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Jeff Shulman to Toss Main Event Bracelet in Trash if he wins

View Poll Results: Should the WSOP penalize Jeff Shulman

Time penalty

9 1.57%

Hands penalty

7 1.22%

Expulsion

54 9.42%

No, I don't care

503 87.78%

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07-16-2009 , 12:36 PM

#101

GuinnessNH

grinder

Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 513

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Originally Posted by Debonair

Years ago I sat next to Jeff in a tournament and listened to him trash one of the pros who was a regular writer for his (Dad's) magazine. It always seems like a class guy builds a great business, hands it to his self absorbed son, who then feels like he is someone special.

So true. /thread.

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07-16-2009 , 12:39 PM

#102

Knine

newbie

Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 39

This was reported about Jeff comments:
http://wickedchopspoker.com/jeff-shu...vent-bracelet/

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CardPlayer editor Jeff Shulman, 34, plans to throw the WSOP Main Event bracelet “in the garbage” if he makes and wins the November NineTM final table.

We had been hearing from multiple sources for days that Shulman is saying that if he were to win the 2009 WSOP Main Event, he’d renounce the bracelet as he believes that Harrah’s has treated his magazine unfairly in recent years. We just asked Shulman on the first break if this was true, to which he replied, “If by renounce it you mean throw it in the garbage, then yes.”

This is from the 2009 WSOP tournament rules:

http://www.worldseriesofpoker.com/pd...inal392009.pdf

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SECTION IV – PLAYER CONDUCT AND TOURNAMENT INTEGRITY

30. CODE OF PLAYER CONDUCT FOR THE 2009 WSOP
C. Harrah’s will penalize any act that, in the sole and absolute discretion of Harrah’s, is inconsistent with the official rules or bests interests of the Tournament.

31. In addition to that authorized in Rule 30, Harrah’s may impose penalties of any kind or nature upon any person who gives, makes, issues, authorizes or endorses any statement or action having, or designed to have, an effect prejudicial or detrimental to the best interest of the Tournament as determined by Harrah’s, acting in its sole and absolute discretion. This may include, but shall not be limited to, expulsion from the event and property, forfeiture of a player’s entry fee(s) and/or loss of the right to participate in this and/or any other Tournament conducted by Harrah’s. Additionally, Harrah’s may in its sole and absolute discretion impose penalties of any kind or nature upon any person who, in Harrah’s view engages in inappropriate conduct during Tournament play.

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07-16-2009 , 12:42 PM

#103

Karganeth

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,305

No.

/thread

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07-16-2009 , 12:42 PM

#104

JJJP

newbie

Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 15

If I were to post only 'OP is an idiot.' would I get infracted?

Last edited by Hitch; 07-16-2009 at 04:48 PM. Reason: yes

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07-16-2009 , 12:42 PM

#105

WCGRider

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 7,045

think the precident that expelling someone for speaking freely about their thoughts on the wsop and the impact that would have on harrahs/the rio

im going with no, he paid 10k to play and is gonna get to play imo.

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07-16-2009 , 12:44 PM

#106

Mitch Evans

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 5,633

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Originally Posted by Knine

This was reported about Jeff comments:
http://wickedchopspoker.com/jeff-shu...vent-bracelet/

This is from the 2009 WSOP tournament rules:

http://www.worldseriesofpoker.com/pd...inal392009.pdf

That's a bit of a stretch. Merely stating that you will throw the bracelet in the trash doesn't really fit the rules you've stated.

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07-16-2009 , 12:45 PM

#107

DoctorBarbie

journeyman

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 266

You make a compelling point OP.

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07-16-2009 , 12:50 PM

#108

Phleggm

adept

Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,036

(This is a copy of the forum post I left on CardPlayer for his eminence to read.)

So, it has been alleged in other online publications that Jeff Schulman has promised to throw his ME bracelet in the trash when/if he wins it, because he is pizzed about losing whatever rights he/Cardplayer had to WSOP coverage a couple years ago.

This reminds me of the opening montage of the spy adventure TV series "Burn Notice," where one ex-spy speaking to another ex-spy, says, "You know spies, Michael, a bunch of bit chi little girls."

Apparently poker publisher/card players fit the mold as well.

Grow a set of man-rocks, Jeff. FLAUNT the bracelet as your ultimate vindication, if you win it, and glory in the fact that all the "preferred" outlets for WSOP coverage have to display YOUR SHINNING FACE in their rags. Can you visualize your Bluff magazine cover wearing your SpadeClub shirt and CardPlayer hat? What better vengeance could you elicit? Not to mention the free advertising.

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07-16-2009 , 12:52 PM

#109

RarocASP

grinder

Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 593

take it down, don't do interviews

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07-16-2009 , 12:55 PM

#110

uppie_

old hand

Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,673

No one has any idea what was said / done in those talks with harrahs and card player. Until i know i will reserve judgement.

If I learned anything from check raising the devil, its to wait until you hear both sides of a story before you judge someone.

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07-16-2009 , 01:03 PM

#111

ParaRIOT!

banned

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 353

I got 20 Bucks that he actually wouldn't throw it in the garbage if he for some freak chance beat Ivey.

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07-16-2009 , 01:17 PM

#112

CVagts

newbie

Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 25

I'm rooting for Shulman now. Just to see if he's a man of his word.

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07-16-2009 , 01:17 PM

#113

hammerva

grinder

Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 547

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Originally Posted by illdonk

What are the odds of ESPN not mentioning this at all?

Maybe they will do it like the Jamie Gold situation where they show Gold winning the tournament and then immediately after show they got some 4th rate talking head talking about the lawsuit.

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07-16-2009 , 01:20 PM

#114

TheJuice

centurion

Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 184

he is not going to win, so it doesnt matter.

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07-16-2009 , 01:33 PM

#115

SenatorKevin

veteran

Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 2,922

Considering this guy is still butt-hurt over a business decision that was made a year or two ago, he can personally suck it.

He's just another spoiled child who's had a good job handed to him by his parents. When he doesn't get his way he cries like a little baby. WAHHH!!!

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07-16-2009 , 01:37 PM

#116

intjmastermind

stranger

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 7

I'm going to be waiting beside that trashcan to pick up the bracelet if he does do that. And then later, when he changes his mind, he can buy it back from me for $1 million. Sounds about right?

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07-16-2009 , 01:38 PM

#117

CARDRACK111

enthusiast

Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 91

i truly care

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07-16-2009 , 01:39 PM

#118

JasonInDallas

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 6,898

Not too different than the Olympian medalist who threw the medal on the ground after losing to 3-year olds.

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07-16-2009 , 02:12 PM

#119

99 problems

grinder

Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 558

Shulman 5 minutes later.

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07-16-2009 , 03:12 PM

#120

dthouse

grinder

Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 590

rule number one: this is america, freedom of speech/expression. what he said should hold no penalty.

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07-16-2009 , 03:14 PM

#121

uter

banned

Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,417

when i first looked at the word "expulsion" i thought it said "explosion" so i was gonna vote for that.
then i saw that it actually said "expulsion" so i voted for it cuz he seems like an enormous douche

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07-16-2009 , 03:17 PM

#122

Kevmath

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 28,242

From Gary Wise's latest article:

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"It has nothing to do with [Card Player no longer having exclusive rights to WSOP coverage]," the 34-year-old Las Vegas native said. "It's about my lack of respect for the WSOP and the management here and what they've done to the players. That said, I still wouldn't wear it if I was best friends with them. When I had a chance to win years ago, I said I wouldn't wear it. I'm shocked that people wear those ugly things."

"Jeff generally says and does what he means, so if he says something, I don't doubt he's going to do it," best friend Adam Schoenfeld said. "I just see this as a professional wrestling heel turn ,and Jeff's just gonna be the bad guy, so it doesn't hurt anyone."

"If I win, I'll never play at the Rio or WSOP again," Shulman said. "If I win, I'll never play poker again.

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07-16-2009 , 03:18 PM

#123

pwnsauc3

banned

Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 41

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheJuice

he is not going to win, so it doesnt matter.

But still, I hope he doesn't try to ruin the best thing thats happened in poker in a long time by being a brat.

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07-16-2009 , 03:21 PM

#124

sba9630

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 4,510

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramon Scott

...While I am not an opponent at all to smoking weed, having indulged happily for 17 years before quitting to get into the casino business, you have to think that maybe he was just high when he said this. Or maybe he was just high when he bought in...

Did you get out of the casino business? Because I think you're indulging again:

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Originally Posted by Ramon Scott

...Maybe Jeffrey Pollack, instead of awarding the Bracelet to the winner, should it be Shulman, could just award it to the second place finisher. Keep the money the same, obviously, but come out with a statement, saying, "Given the stated position of our champion that he will throw away the perpetual trophy awarded to our champions, we have decided that the Bracelet would best be deserved by our second place finisher, who we will recognize as our official champion. Congratulations on your $8.5 million victory Mr. Shulman, and good luck in the future."

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Originally Posted by Ramon Scott

...I'm an idiot with a stack stash...

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