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illya Trincher checks in prison today after playing Bobby's room with Abe Mosseri and Justin illya Trincher checks in prison today after playing Bobby's room with Abe Mosseri and Justin

06-29-2014 , 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by michelle227
unless he somehow had a ton of backtime credit at sentencing, six months of fed time is NOT a release in 60 days.

I don't have a lot of involvement with clients in that system, but as I recall, it was no more than a 15% shaving and that was contingent on program participation. The projected release date in this case will be known once the BOP has processed him into custody though...at the moment, all I have is the Register Number that will be associated with the incarceration (64660-112).
No credit for good time for sentences less than one year. Which is why judges hand out 366 day sentences some times. Figure he gets a few days credit for initial arrest and arraignment.
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06-29-2014 , 04:58 PM
I don't wish prison on nobody but maybe Mosseri for a week. He won 1.2 a few days ago and was in Bobby's room complaining the games were two low at 2k 4k. What a nit.
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06-30-2014 , 06:10 AM
Russians are so boss! Sucks that a couple of those guys had to forfeit $20 million in cash. Hopefully they came ahead on the deal.
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06-30-2014 , 08:16 AM
Yeah 5 years was too much for sure. But he was hooked to that famous russian mobster on tapes.
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06-30-2014 , 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Fish Taco
LOL...you think I have no concept of jail because I'd take probation over time? First in this case we would be talking about prison, not jail. Please learn the difference between the two before you tell me I have no concept of one.

Second, yes I have a good concept of what jail is and I would much rather take the time over probation. Now in most cases when you choose time you get way less time than the length of the probation. So if I had the choice of doing 3-6 months (possibly more depending on the charge and length of probation offered) in a federal prison over 2-5 years of probation I would snap take the time.

Maybe you have no concept of what probation really is then. I have experience in both and stick by my original statement that I would accept time over probation.
probation is a ***** joke. how much time have you done inside?
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06-30-2014 , 09:59 PM
Federal supervised release ("probation") is no joke. Alot of people would take 6 months in prison over 2 years of supervised release, as crazy as that sounds.
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06-30-2014 , 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by rockrock
Federal supervised release ("probation") is no joke. Alot of people would take 6 months in prison over 2 years of supervised release, as crazy as that sounds.
Stop trading up the thread. U don't know what " a lot of people would take" I don't understand how someone can speak for others on a matter like this, especially without knowing the exact terms of the probation. Start a poll and a separate thread , please

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07-01-2014 , 05:08 AM
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Originally Posted by rockrock
Federal supervised release ("probation") is no joke. Alot of people would take 6 months in prison over 2 years of supervised release, as crazy as that sounds.
You fill out a tan-brown form every month and your PO comes to visit usually once a month.
That's what Federal supervised release usually is,barring special conditions.

Anywhere you go, you can get PO's who are power-tripping cnuts but pound for pound, you'll find a higher caliber man in the Federal system than the state by a mile. The culture of the given office (Prosecutor, Probation, etc) will play a role in how they treat people but you're a lot less likely to encounter a complete mouth-breather in the Fed than in in any given state system where the barriers to entry are a lot lower.

Example: Public defenders. A typical Federal PD is going to be on par with whatever you will get from a random private attorney, actually probably better. A typical State PD is going to be overworked and provide sub-par service to his defendant.
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07-01-2014 , 05:47 AM
I know someone who chose 6 months in federal prison, far away from his family and friends over 2 years of supervised release. If you like to smoke pot or gamble, supervised release may not be for you.
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07-01-2014 , 08:04 AM
You gotta be an idiot to take 2 years of federal supervised release over 6 months in prison.
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07-01-2014 , 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by rockrock
If you like to smoke pot or gamble, supervised release may not be for you.
If you like to smoke pot or gamble, prison may also not be for you.
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07-01-2014 , 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by GrindPokerAllDay
You gotta be an idiot to take 2 years of federal supervised release over 6 months in prison.
Yeah.
What idiot could possibly choose sleeping in their own bed every night, eating when they want to eat, showering by themselves in their own shower, watching what they want to watch on TV, going to the movies when they want, going to bed when they want, hook up with women whenever they want but having to fill out a sheet of paper every month and/or take a piss test for two years versus spending a half a year IN PRISON.

I get that some people live their lives for recreational substances, I get that, and that probation cramps their style but for anyone who lives their life for life, they would not choose 6 months in prison over 2 years probation unless they're already a mostly institutionalized homosexual who doesn't mind that environment or actually likes it.

Variance: I believe there are some super-duper intensive forms of probation where its basically like a halfway house but in your own home, that, I can't comment on but those are very unusual cases.
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07-01-2014 , 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by WM2
Yeah.
What idiot could possibly choose sleeping in their own bed every night, eating when they want to eat, showering by themselves in their own shower, watching what they want to watch on TV, going to the movies when they want, going to bed when they want, hook up with women whenever they want but having to fill out a sheet of paper every month and/or take a piss test for two years versus spending a half a year IN PRISON.

I get that some people live their lives for recreational substances, I get that, and that probation cramps their style but for anyone who lives their life for life, they would not choose 6 months in prison over 2 years probation unless they're already a mostly institutionalized homosexual who doesn't mind that environment or actually likes it.

Variance: I believe there are some super-duper intensive forms of probation where its basically like a halfway house but in your own home, that, I can't comment on but those are very unusual cases.

lots of ppl choose prison over probation bec it costs a lot and if you get in trouble the situation becomes worse than the original sentence.
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07-01-2014 , 05:59 PM
Might as well cross-post to this thread:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...sting-1322518/

That thread got some 115,000 views. Then one someone posts a mini-rant about its follow-up, no one seems to know what he's talking about. NVG is a big world, I guess.

That said, I'm surprised the OP didn't just bump the previous thread, rather than starting a new thread out of context.
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07-01-2014 , 10:55 PM
if you like to do drugs and gamble, 2 years is a long time to abstain. I don't think it is unusual at all to chose some prison time over a long supervised released. Their are often other restrictions as well which will certainly be imposed in all gambling cases - you aren't gonna be allowed to own a device that connects to the internet, you aren't gonna be allowed to get a phone without telling them the new #, etc. Any violation and you are probably going back in front of a judge, who isn't going to let the violation go without some time in jail.

If you like to sit at home and watch tv, supervised release doesn't sound all that bad but for anyone that finds themselves in the federal corrections system, i would suspect supervised release really sucks.
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07-02-2014 , 03:23 AM
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Originally Posted by rockrock
but for anyone that finds themselves in the federal corrections system, i would suspect supervised release really sucks.
As noted and now renoting:

"Federal probation" is usually going to be a considerably less stressful event than most state probations.

Each Federal district and probation office sets their own ground rules, most use a tiered system for risk (and a separate system for sex offenders) but seriously, excluding those who have the self control of toddlers or total losers doing life on the installment plan, for normal human beings who find themselves caught up in the system, probation is almost always going to be preferable to prison/camp, unless there's some huge time disparity (like, 4 months in a camp or 10 years probation, I might take the 4 months there).

Otherwise, no.
Filling out a sheet of paper is not 'worse' than prison. A Federal PO is going to have a bachelors degree 90% of the time (excluding some real old timers). A State PO is going to be a step above an EMT or Jail Guard.
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07-02-2014 , 04:54 AM
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Originally Posted by WM2
As noted and now renoting:

"Federal probation" is usually going to be a considerably less stressful event than most state probations.

Each Federal district and probation office sets their own ground rules, most use a tiered system for risk (and a separate system for sex offenders) but seriously, excluding those who have the self control of toddlers or total losers doing life on the installment plan, for normal human beings who find themselves caught up in the system, probation is almost always going to be preferable to prison/camp, unless there's some huge time disparity (like, 4 months in a camp or 10 years probation, I might take the 4 months there).

Otherwise, no.
Filling out a sheet of paper is not 'worse' than prison. A Federal PO is going to have a bachelors degree 90% of the time (excluding some real old timers). A State PO is going to be a step above an EMT or Jail Guard.
drug tests are mandatory, and for a gambling conviction involving the internet, you probably aren't gonna be allowed to access the internet for the entire length of your supervised release. Could you even make 2 days without accessing the internet? What if you smoked pot every day? GL with stopping for years. 6 months in jail to have these restrictions lifted is a close decision for a lot of people, as has been noted in this thread. It's great supervised release would be a walk in the park for you, congrats on that.
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11-06-2014 , 09:37 AM
Trump slams old pal Marc Lasry (guy that was going to be appointed US ambassdor of France) for playing poker and sports betting with young Trincher and Mosseri along with Marc's best friend Bill Clinton.

Trump said....How stupid can you be? You have 4 billion dollars, going to be appointed ambassador to France and you and Bill fly around in circles in a private jet for weeks with two idiot poker players so you can poker in private. Why didn't you just raise a flag out the window?

Trump and Lasry were in a entertainment group together in 2010 trying to purchase online poker sites to bring to AC. Then they become rivals somehow. After that Vadim Trincher, father od Illya gets really stupid and sues Donald Trump over a leak in his aprtment that ruined his 150k rug. ( all can be googled btw)

Trump who's already pissed at Lasry now is pissed at Trincher who is holding games in Trump Tower during this time with Helly Nahmad son of another billionaire who the Donald hates and the same people on the indictment.

Now Another story about to come out because Trump says they are all still playing poker with no regards to the law or indictment and aledgedly sent reporters over to a billionaires town house just yesterday to stir things back up.

In other words...don't piss off Trump! Lol he might be the reason all you idiots were indicted in the first place.
Your a mobster that is having illegial poker games under The Donald's apartment...you stole his billionaire buddy Marc out from under him so you can pound him for sports betting and gambling addictions...he brings to you Clinton and many more ther billionaires that line your pockets and then you sue Trump for a leak that damaged your wife's mink rug. Idiots idiots

Maybe Vadim will have time to think over the rug thing in his 5 year prison stint.
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11-06-2014 , 02:41 PM
Trump who?
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11-06-2014 , 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by WM2
Yeah.
What idiot could possibly choose sleeping in their own bed every night, eating when they want to eat, showering by themselves in their own shower, watching what they want to watch on TV, going to the movies when they want, going to bed when they want, hook up with women whenever they want but having to fill out a sheet of paper every month and/or take a piss test for two years versus spending a half a year IN PRISON.

I get that some people live their lives for recreational substances, I get that, and that probation cramps their style but for anyone who lives their life for life, they would not choose 6 months in prison over 2 years probation unless they're already a mostly institutionalized homosexual who doesn't mind that environment or actually likes it.

Variance: I believe there are some super-duper intensive forms of probation where its basically like a halfway house but in your own home, that, I can't comment on but those are very unusual cases.
You obviously have no idea what prison or probation is, and you're a blatant ******. 6 months in prison is nothing compared to 2 years federal probation. Hell, I had 2 years STATE probation, and after the first month I had immediately regretted taking that deal. I honestly wish I had taken the time instead. I lost 2 years of my life while on probation. I couldn't go out, because any contact with law enforcement could result in probation being revoked. I had curfew, and random house visits by officers whom liked to toss my room apart searching for paraphernalia. If I were to have been in the same area as someone under-aged drinking, guess what, I'd have my probation revoked and get sent to jail. You miss one appointment by 5 minutes due to traffic? That's a shame, you're slapped with a violation and off to jail you are. I lived in constant paranoia for 2 whole years. Even though I had been completely abiding by the law, I knew that all it took was one second of being in the wrong place at the wrong time, and I'm done. The amount of stress and psychological trauma you go through on probation is not ****ing worth it, and imagine living like that for 2 years straight. When you're on probation, THE OFFICERS ARE OUT TO GET YOU. They are trying, praying for a reason to send you back, and it's an around the clock struggle. You never know when they'll come banging on your door to harass you.

Looking back, I'd gladly have taken 6 months in prison over that, it's not as bad in there as you think. Those 2 years on probation were the ****tiest moments of my life, living in constant fear and paranoia, unable to leave the county. The whole system is designed as a trap to get you to violate and get sent to prison anyways! Hell, they even put a warrant out for my arrest because JPAY (how you pay your fees), didn't process my payment until 2 ****ing weeks later, and I had to spend 2 weeks in jail, and thousands on my lawyer to get me out of there when I shouldn't have been in the first place. They actually look for technical reasons to send you back.

What kind of idiot WOULDN'T take 6 months in prison of 2 years probation?

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11-06-2014 , 03:07 PM
Whichever of the Privateworld account users writes in this thread has the best and most understandable writing style.

Can you do all of the group's postings please?
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