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08-04-2011 , 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by lqken
so could anyone give me cliffs on what this fuss is about?
why isnt this socalled prodigy crushing stars for instance?

ty
He may well do when they arrive.
08-04-2011 , 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by AceMuncher
That is a sick link! n1
08-04-2011 , 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Buhlos
Have just read that jungelman and haseeb are moving to Portugal to live with Macedo...
Yeah, they've all 3 known each other since way before 2011. Their goal is to get Jose on the cover of a poker magazine and/or an article inside of a major sports magazine by the end of next year. It surprises me how many people still think that this first post here was real in OP: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...e-info-964270/

Jose is a real person, but it's just Haseeb writing Jose's twitter, blog, 2p2 posts, the various shill accounts (such as user sdfnsjns and 6 other shill accounts), but I laid cliffs about 20 posts ago in this thread for everyone just catching up with this guy. As far as who plays on his account (and leading to his disqualification from the Bluff Challenge) I think it could be Haseeb or Jungleman. I wish him the best of luck at convincing the whole world (through a grassroots following on 2p2) that there is some Portugese kid who writes as well as Haseeb and plays poker as well as Jungleman. If someone really had those abilities, however, they wouldn't need ANY shill accounts to help proselytize those of us who wholeheartedly would love a story like his to be 100% true...

Sighs, at least he's not asking for money, just a willing pawn of a nefarious prop bet with nothing to lose for Haseeb or jungleman. Poor Jose doesn't realize (or is perhaps too young) to see the damaging effects for him putting his name, face, and character on the line just for a little bit of fame (and whatever piece he gets for letting someone else play on his account--for which he was disqualified, this isn't just a speculative accusation).

Good luck to Jose, and I hope once your 7 shills are identified, you'll have to resort to new shills with a join date after August 2011...

(for anyone who has more info, please pm me with anything you know--rangey and I have an passion/obsession for investigating the truth about this guy, especially if he gets anywhere near as big as the isildur1 story)
08-04-2011 , 07:43 PM
Great post doctesseractyl.
08-04-2011 , 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by brrrap!
Great post doctesseractyl.
Thanks, but I really have done so little work in comparison to RangeyMcTriplMerge. The credit all goes to him, because he has done so much work behind the scenes which no one will ever appreciate. Thanks for the encouragement though, because we do it for the greater good of honest people.
08-04-2011 , 08:24 PM
Bluff magazine won't say why he was disqualified from the challenge??? That's shady.
08-04-2011 , 08:47 PM
does this op tilt any one else? I cant stand seeing someone beat the game so severiely and see myself being such a donk.
08-04-2011 , 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by LookinForFish
Bluff magazine won't say why he was disqualified from the challenge??? That's shady.
http://news.bluffmagazine.com/jose-m...allenge-20548/

Someone logged into his account from a second location, and played some hands on his account. The #1 thing is his refusal to answer 4 questions which have been posted over & over & over. Don't believe the whole "backer logged in to check his balance" story because that was simply doing damage control once the story was already broke. I have meticulously covered Jose's public relations tactic in a very deep TL;DR post back in June, which was actually the turning point for me & lead to my activity in this thread.

It was the one chance I had to explain something extremely complicated that they were doing, which very few people outside of research or outside of Cambridge classrooms will ever need to understand--it's a valuable lesson, and was a necessary one, for those who have never encountered the type of reasoning being employed at that time.
08-04-2011 , 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by bernie madof
does this op tilt any one else? I cant stand seeing someone beat the game so severely and see myself being such a donk.
Haseeb later admitted to writing the OP instead of Jose. It's right here in this thread:
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t he asked me if I could help him to write it since he was a big fan of my writing. I like the kid a lot so I told him I was fine with that
08-05-2011 , 12:10 AM
doctessaractyl, it might be the language barrier but I can't figure out if you're being sarcastic or not about all this?
08-05-2011 , 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted by AKingdom
doctessaractyl, it might be the language barrier but I can't figure out if you're being sarcastic or not about all this?
he's not
08-06-2011 , 08:18 AM
User: kleverkat

Here is the next shill: an account signs up in May 2011 and conveniently does this as his first post! The selected writing style features "analysis" but you can tell someone went back and wrote it a bunch of "hahas" and profanity to make it seem light, although it continually highlights/reemphasizes the checklist of things to say, and it subtly covers everything that was being speculated on here. Definitely someone who put in an hour of thought into a post, would not match it with a writing style that is made to look "fast, frantic, and only 5 minutes" & this, Jose & company, is called incongruence. Also, the flow of the shill's message was interjected with too many links to Jose & company's blog, and copy/pastes of his twitter, to sound believable. Again, this is more damning than user:sdfnsjns as I laid out yesterday. When you create a shill account, the persona has to match the writing style & tone. This one has way too much details, reinforcement of key talking points (parroted by the other shills almost too glaringly obvious, like robbing a bank in the middle of a day, wearing clown costume trying not to get noticed). Enjoy the following shill post with humor & amusement:

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Originally Posted by kleverkat
Lol this thread is too funny.
First they accuse jose of being a ****ty break even player. So he posts opponent tab showing he beats 4 different high stakes regs. Not to mention how every single US hs reg has either coached or played jose and knows and confirms hes a beast.
Then they accuse him of being a MA, so he posts his side of the story with screenshots and everything to back it up.
Then they say the staker "alias" is suspicious, so he posts his staker's HEM again and it checks out.
Now they're saying the IP is bull****, I actually know the backer but even if i didnt, its very obviously his backer is from the US and he's from portugal. How do you dumbasses not understand this? Also, why would he advertise chipdumping on twitter? Also, did you guys miss this part of the statement:

He's answered every question in the thread, and ppl just keep posting new ones. Please jose, dont answer any more questions from busto lifeless nerds. Everyone who is someone in the poker world and actually matters believes you and knows youre an awesome player. All the HU and high stakes regs that have posted in this thread believe you, toocurioso, syous etc. Like he posted, just add up the networths of everyone who believes you and then of the doubters, I would bet the ratio will be 20:1. Please, dont answer any more questions from these nvg jealous tards, they are the scum of the earth, and you dont need to prove anything to them.
All you bustos, if hes so bad why dont you take his Girah challenge?

José Maria Macedo
Hey guys, my offer still stands, will pay 2bb/100 to anyone willing to 4-table on Lock (Merge Network) from 10/20NL to 200/400NL. Contact me
2 days 11 hours ago

Read more: http://www.pokernews.com/twitter/girahpoker

Hahaha ur so pathetic, nvg is so pathetic, 2p2 is so pathetic. Come on nerds, he will play anyone, why dont you pool your BRs together and take a shot at the fake ?
Why would he cheat for a WSOP package(he cant play WSOP), a sponsorship(hes already sponsored) and a bluff cover which he'd get anyway? Think dumbasses.
Who says "read more..." and links to a May 4th tweet which links to his relevant blog post which is the official, painstaking cover-up written by Jose & company, as if not enough people saw it on their own, and a random by-line needs to be thrown in? Not only that, he lists every major argument, then repeats the same, consistent story as his other shill accounts. I hope if Jose & company are reading this (and you'll need to start signing up your new August 2011 shills), unless you have more that I don't know of, but probably not because EVERY poster in this ENTIRE THREAD who has ever once said "why don't all you haters take up his Girah challenge or stfu?" has had their entire posting history analyzed start to finish.

Five shills to go... (and please keep the PM's coming, I've only got 2 so far, Rangey & I have done a lot of work, so please share stuff with us)
08-06-2011 , 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by doctesseractyl
Yeah, they've all 3 known each other since way before 2011. Their goal is to get Jose on the cover of a poker magazine and/or an article inside of a major sports magazine by the end of next year. It surprises me how many people still think that this first post here was real in OP: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...e-info-964270/

Jose is a real person, but it's just Haseeb writing Jose's twitter, blog, 2p2 posts, the various shill accounts (such as user sdfnsjns and 6 other shill accounts), but I laid cliffs about 20 posts ago in this thread for everyone just catching up with this guy. As far as who plays on his account (and leading to his disqualification from the Bluff Challenge) I think it could be Haseeb or Jungleman. I wish him the best of luck at convincing the whole world (through a grassroots following on 2p2) that there is some Portugese kid who writes as well as Haseeb and plays poker as well as Jungleman. If someone really had those abilities, however, they wouldn't need ANY shill accounts to help proselytize those of us who wholeheartedly would love a story like his to be 100% true...

Sighs, at least he's not asking for money, just a willing pawn of a nefarious prop bet with nothing to lose for Haseeb or jungleman. Poor Jose doesn't realize (or is perhaps too young) to see the damaging effects for him putting his name, face, and character on the line just for a little bit of fame (and whatever piece he gets for letting someone else play on his account--for which he was disqualified, this isn't just a speculative accusation).

Good luck to Jose, and I hope once your 7 shills are identified, you'll have to resort to new shills with a join date after August 2011...

(for anyone who has more info, please pm me with anything you know--rangey and I have an passion/obsession for investigating the truth about this guy, especially if he gets anywhere near as big as the isildur1 story)
Terrible post, you're a complete idiot. What you're describing makes no sense whatsoever and would actually be detrimental to Haseeb and Jungleman as well.

On top of that, these two are just not the kind of people who would prop bet into hurting someone's life (yes I know, Ashman running prop for Haseeb but it's not comparable and I think he's learned from it).

Clearly you're just trying to put together some kind of "investigation" to make yourself feel as if you're in an episode of CSI and try to garner some attention on an online forum, but I have some bad news for you...

You're an idiot. I mean you're actually stupid. Nothing of what you say makes any sense and you have absolutely zero common sense and overall very weak logical skills, probably due to a close to inexistant working memory.

That kid is obviously real. If you read his posts carefully and knew how to write you'd notice that his mastery of the english language, while superior to that of 99% of americans (as low a standard as it gets, really...), is not at all flawless, and I doubt he has Jungleman's poker skills.

Last edited by Kevmath; 08-07-2011 at 06:42 AM. Reason: removed final sentence.
08-06-2011 , 08:50 AM
LOL @ anyone believing José "Girah" Macedo, the so-called "Portuguese Poker Prodigy" is legit.... Too Funny... Poker players can be so dumb..
08-06-2011 , 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by The OG
LOL @ anyone believing José "Girah" Macedo, the so-called "Portuguese Poker Prodigy" is legit.... Too Funny... Poker players can be so dumb..
so can 5NL tards like yourself
08-06-2011 , 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by the_most10
so can 5NL tards like yourself
Sorry Fish, I play 2NL... Don't give me that much credit, 5NL is too baller for me
08-06-2011 , 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by The OG
LOL @ anyone believing José "Girah" Macedo, the so-called "Portuguese Poker Prodigy" is legit.... Too Funny... Poker players can be so dumb..
I think you're confused. Jose is also saying that the so-called "Portuguese Poker Prodigy" is legit.

Do you see what I did there? Take your time...
08-06-2011 , 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Land Of The Free?
On top of that, these two are just not the kind of people who would prop bet into hurting someone's life (yes I know, Ashman running prop for Haseeb but it's not comparable and I think he's learned from it).

Can you clarify this. You're saying that he wouldn't, but that he did, but you think he's learned his lesson so wouldn't do it again and it wasn't even the same anyways?

I'm genuinely curious as I don't know what situation you're talking about but the logic doesn't follow.
08-06-2011 , 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by SiMor29
Can you clarify this. You're saying that he wouldn't, but that he did, but you think he's learned his lesson so wouldn't do it again and it wasn't even the same anyways?

I'm genuinely curious as I don't know what situation you're talking about but the logic doesn't follow.
The logic follows fine, your reading comprehension skills don't. I think you missed that part: "but it's not comparable".

Don't feel like looking for it, just search for Ashman run prop bet or something along those lines.
08-06-2011 , 11:14 AM
LOL @ trusting the type of scum that would prop bet on their friends' life.
08-06-2011 , 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Land Of The Free?
The logic follows fine, your reading comprehension skills don't. I think you missed that part: "but it's not comparable".

Don't feel like looking for it, just search for Ashman run prop bet or something along those lines.

I acknowledged the fact that you don't think it's comparable in my reply. I was just curious as to why you felt it needed mentioning at all if it's just not comparable. I'll bite my tongue on any reading comprehension jokes.

FWIW I just read the thread and it seems exactly this: "kind of people who would prop bet into hurting someone's life"

How is it not comparable, given the quoted statement? He bet on failure I presume, and 70 miles in a day is likely to hurt someone:

"kind of people who would prop bet into hurting someone's life"

I'm not by any means suggesting that this is what is happening here obviously, just that your line is pretty weak.
08-06-2011 , 11:41 AM
Nice post again doctesseractyl, the truth will eventually come out.
08-06-2011 , 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by brrrap!
Nice post again doctesseractyl, the truth will eventually come out.
It always does
08-06-2011 , 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Land Of The Free?
Terrible post, you're a complete idiot. What you're describing makes no sense whatsoever and would actually be detrimental to Haseeb and Jungleman as well.

On top of that, these two are just not the kind of people who would prop bet into hurting someone's life (yes I know, Ashman running prop for Haseeb but it's not comparable and I think he's learned from it).

Clearly you're just trying to put together some kind of "investigation" to make yourself feel as if you're in an episode of CSI and try to garner some attention on an online forum, but I have some bad news for you...

You're an idiot. I mean you're actually stupid. Nothing of what you say makes any sense and you have absolutely zero common sense and overall very weak logical skills, probably due to a close to inexistant working memory.

That kid is obviously real. If you read his posts carefully and knew how to write you'd notice that his mastery of the english language, while superior to that of 99% of americans (as low a standard as it gets, really...), is not at all flawless, and I doubt he has Jungleman's poker skills.

Just because you can't tie your laces without having to interrupt your flow of thoughts under the threat of suffering a brain hemorrhage doesn't mean everyone is a ******.
Irony FTW!
08-06-2011 , 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by neverfoldthe1outer
Irony FTW!
Ok, first off that's not irony. For it to be irony I'd have to have made the same kind of mistake he did, and whereas I made a spelling mistake he made a logical one.

That's your first fail. Here's some help: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irony

Secondly, the day you can write and express yourself in my language as well as I do in yours, get back to me.

      
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