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07-31-2019 , 12:43 AM

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Tuma

Worships Amon-Ra

Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 17,680

paging psumike

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07-31-2019 , 01:07 AM

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Xenoblade

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Sep 2017 Posts: 4,308

if you know the person, just ask them if they're broke before lending ldo

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07-31-2019 , 04:26 AM

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ukbilly

old hand

Join Date: Apr 2018 Posts: 1,867

I would never lend a poker player money it is just a disaster waiting to happen.

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07-31-2019 , 04:30 AM

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Atinat

journeyman

Join Date: Mar 2019 Posts: 231

Was she hot?

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07-31-2019 , 04:50 AM

#30

Josem

human chemical weapon

Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 18,249

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Originally Posted by SrslySirius

Just don't do it.

This.

There are businesses which employ thousands of experts to judge credit risk and to loan money in a profitable manner. You're obviously not one of them, so don't get involved.

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07-31-2019 , 05:49 AM

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venice10

Referee

Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 26,103

Be grateful that the lesson only cost you $400. If you aren't ever going to need a loan at the casino, don't give them.

Ask ibelieveyouoweme80k about his story some time about how bad it can get.

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07-31-2019 , 10:00 AM

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OldManCoffee66

enthusiast

Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 61

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Originally Posted by Atinat

Was she hot?

haha!

Had a high school classmate borrow $600 sometime after graduating college to pay her rent.

She couldn't pay me back but hinted at sex.

Looking back, I should have taken her up on it because I never got paid back.

She wasn't hot and all I could think about was another friend who had gotten knocked up in a one night stand.

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07-31-2019 , 11:02 AM

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mike1270

adept

Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,105

Originally Posted by Patience721 View Post
how do you know when a player is broke, what are the some of the signs a person should look for

"them asking you for money"

+1

It amazes me that I still hear a variation of this story almost every month, often from very experienced players getting taken. I wonder why - are poker players suckers? too generous? too trusting? does the game just build such camaraderie that people give money away too easy?.....??

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07-31-2019 , 11:39 AM

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tomdemaine

Just tries harder

Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,056

Unless you have very very strong evidence to the contrary you should assume every single person in a casino (including staff) is a completely broke degenerate. You won't go far wrong.

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07-31-2019 , 11:50 AM

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RoyalRumble

journeyman

Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 382

In 2019 I wouldn't lend money to anybody whose sole source of income is poker.

If they haven't made enough of a life roll to not need a loan by now they are highly unlikely to in today's games.

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07-31-2019 , 11:01 PM

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FellaGaga-52

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Join Date: Oct 2018 Posts: 9,284

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Originally Posted by tomdemaine

Unless you have very very strong evidence to the contrary you should assume every single person in a casino (including staff) is a completely broke degenerate. You won't go far wrong.

that's what I was trying to say

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08-01-2019 , 01:05 AM

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Patience721

stranger

Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 10

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Originally Posted by Howard Beale

When a player's been a pro for his entire adult life and won't dip into his BR to pay for his dead brother's funeral and asks for help, that's when.

True story, btw.

Whoa! That's sad.

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08-01-2019 , 01:08 AM

#38

Patience721

stranger

Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 10

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Originally Posted by pokervangelist

please tell us her name so I don't lend her

If I did that, I think I would get banned from this forum no?

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08-01-2019 , 02:18 AM

#39

Bobo Fett

Carpe Diem

Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 57,426

Why would you get banned for outing a scammer?

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08-01-2019 , 02:30 AM

#40

illdonk

veteran

Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 2,997

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Originally Posted by venice10

Be grateful that the lesson only cost you $400.

That seems like a lot of money to learn a lesson most people already know for free.

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08-01-2019 , 02:42 AM

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IM4AL

newbie

Join Date: Jan 2019 Posts: 49

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Originally Posted by tomdemaine

Unless you have very very strong evidence to the contrary you should assume every single person in a casino (including staff) is a completely broke degenerate. You won't go far wrong.

hahaha good rule of thumb. a bit harsh but not a bad starting point from the perspective of not lending $.

Anyhow, it's tough to lend relatively small amounts of money and expect to collect on it. You have little legal recourse and the options you do have usually aren't worth the time/expense. You'll eat it all up if you talk to a lawyer or lose a night or two of sleep over it.

There is the option of taking collateral. Could get a watch or two if NYPK is asking you for cash

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08-01-2019 , 05:59 AM

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WereBeer

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Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 10,776

1. LOL @ lending someone you know casually $400.

2. LOL @ them being a poker player.

3. LOL @ them being a poker player without 2 buyins for a low tier cash game.

You're an idiot OP. You may as well have given a homeless person outside a liquor store a $400 "loan". If you're 19 years old or something, I give you a pass because I was young and stupid once but by your mid-20s you should know this kind of stuff.

If I liked some random player I might sling them $10 for bus money and call it a gift. I wouldn't lend anyone $400 to buy into a poker game, like anyone on Earth.

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08-01-2019 , 06:15 AM

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Sir Huntington

banned

Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 2,354

Nah, 19 year olds don't get a pass. This coming from someone who was scammed on this forum from the "cancer guy" in his mid 20s. I knew better at 19 and I shoulda known better when it came to "cancer guy" but he had a clever story. Either way in the gambling world it's ****ing ******ed to just hand people money as a "LOAN".

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08-01-2019 , 06:37 AM

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Jay Why

adept

Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 1,053

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Originally Posted by OldManCoffee66

Maybe you could have hedged your bets, and negotiated part settlement through non-penetrative sexual activity in a dark room? Alternatively you could have looked up the word "contraceptive" in the dictionary, and rationalised to yourself looks aren't everything.

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08-01-2019 , 06:41 AM

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R*R

I wish I was Einstein

Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 12,717

How do you know when a Pro Poker Player is broke? Is it safe to lend money if you know them

my late night grunching unfortunately but it's akin to suckiing farts out a of a dead camel.

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08-01-2019 , 10:32 AM

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Lozgod

old hand

Join Date: Nov 2018 Posts: 1,562

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Originally Posted by WereBeer

You may as well have given a homeless person outside a liquor store a $400 "loan".

That put a really funny image in my head. Conversation with some drunk dirty homeless guy as he convinces you he will pay you back and you two walk to the ATM together. After you hand him the money he reassures you one more time then walks in to the liquor store. End scene.

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08-01-2019 , 05:10 PM

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R3M0T3

banned

Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 505

if you can afford $400 you were better off telling the girl that you will go play a hand of blackjack and if you win the hand and double up you will give them $400. at least your having fun doing it.

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08-01-2019 , 05:20 PM

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SpinMeRightRound

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Join Date: Jan 2016 Posts: 2,723

OP, did the fact this person was a woman have any influence on your lending decision? Not saying this is you, but some men might be more likely to lend money to a woman (I'm sure I don't need to explain the reason why).

Anyway, it's one thing buying your friends some drinks or lending your friend $10 if he forgot to bring some cash with him one time. It's a completely different thing to lend someone who you don't know a 3 or 4 figure amount to gamble with. Never a good idea. Can you explain your entire thought process when you lent this money to a stranger?

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08-01-2019 , 10:31 PM

#49

Stupor

journeyman

Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 359

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Originally Posted by Patience721

Hey Everyone!

The question I have is, how do you know when a player is broke,

most sure-fire way to know... check on here. random NVG posters know everything and they regularly updating the list:

<insert name here> confirmed busto

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08-01-2019 , 11:19 PM

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GhoulPatrol

grinder

Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 467

Something I've started doing recently when bums try to get me to "loan" them money in a poker room is asking them to repeat the request, but publicly on their social media. For some odd reason nearly all of them suddenly remember they had other things to do...

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