It was a double gutshot+flush draw, but you were kinda close.

i cannot see the FD...?

clubs on turn. practice more Omahahahahahah

club + club + 2 in the hand = FD imo.

on turn, for sure, i thought we were talking aqbout the flop.

ShipItAllPlzFish, thx for the insight

double gut shot on the flop on a dry board. what's not so standard about this hand?

i just started watching these "High Stakes Poker' videos on youtube. i think the $2/4 on Prima is a tougher game.

Are they playing with their own money? Is it all staged? Do they get paid for appearing?

I ask because many of them play like they are completely clueless about NL poker.

You should go on with your $1mil+ br...wait you are bankrolled for HSP right? Since you know, they are so bad and you are so much better.

people who don't know who KKF is make me sad

"i just started watching these "High Stakes Poker' videos on youtube. i think the $2/4 on Prima is a tougher game."

most of these guys are on there because they're famous not because they know the intricacies of the nl game. i'm sure for many of them nl is their 5th or 6th best game.

so they just want to be on tv or they think the exposure negates their negative edge?

i think most of ssnl has figured out why its a bad idea to call flop bets with bottom pair in multiway pots.

what are they thinking? "the more players in the pot, the more likely it is that i will stack someone when i turn 2 pair?" wtf... seriously.

They probably don't think they are -EV. People tend to think they are better at poker than they really are.

And people like Guy, Baxter, Safai, etc. are just playing for fun and certainly don't think they are +EV. Well maybe Baxter does.

i guess more tv leads to ads n book deal type stuff or maybe they just want to be famous. that and they also get paid $1k+ an hour to be there.

maybe this is why Esfandiari (sp?) played the latest high stakes cash games..... he folded his way to profit!!!

In 4-5 weeks of grinding Gus has wiped out his entire 2008 online dept, which was as much as $1.8 million, I believe. He's no longer among the top 50 biggest losers on the site. If he wins another 900k, he's completely out of the red for 2007-2008 (From what's been monitored).

Is this even him? This isn't one of those 3-4 day heaters we're used to, this has been going on since late June, over about 55k hands. He's also never been as antagonistic in the chat box. I don't know, I'm still seeing the occasional typical Gus call, so it probably is him, I'm just not understanding what the difference is. He's won just as much as the PLO tables as he has at the big hi/lo table, so it's not solely that.

It's like he disappeared for months, then resurfaced as a completely different player. He's still craptastic HU though.

Anyway, watching him and Ziigmund go up and down the charts is about half the fun in railing.

Looking at Gus's results via Highstakesdb is a little worthless since they have only been tracking the HORSE and Omaha Hi/lo games since the beginning of July. I know right before July, for instance, that Gus won over a million in like a two day period once those 2k/4k games started up. Also Icallsowhat is down much more than people realize, since he had some huge losses in the 2k/4k games before they were datamined.

So basically it is impossible to really tell how much Gus is up and down online these last two years and the same goes for any of the players who have played HORSE and O8 continuously.



As you can tell Patrik made over two million playing O8, yet you can't find it on Highstakesdb.

Toxic, do you have any more interesting data mining nuggets?

Antonius LHE or NL stats?

toxic,

where did u get those stats on pat?

I also have some data from 2006 on my other computer in PT, PLO and O8. When Benya was playing under magicpitch, ballsrider etc.

The guy was a maniac.

Let's see if I can recover some data.

i like this

Full Tilt Poker Game #7575499787: Table Pantheon (6 max) - $200/$400 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 11:53:50 ET - 2008/08/09
Seat 1: patatino ($31,065)
Seat 2: PrtectYaNeck ($85,481)
Seat 3: Gus Hansen ($58,462)
Seat 4: slaktarn ($22,672)
Seat 5: David Benyamine ($40,600)
Seat 6: OMGClayAiken ($58,274)
PrtectYaNeck posts the small blind of $200
Gus Hansen posts the big blind of $400
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
slaktarn folds
David Benyamine folds
OMGClayAiken raises to $1,400
patatino folds
PrtectYaNeck has 15 seconds left to act
PrtectYaNeck folds
Gus Hansen raises to $4,400
OMGClayAiken has 15 seconds left to act
OMGClayAiken calls $3,000
*** FLOP *** [2d 6c 8s]
Gus Hansen bets $9,000
OMGClayAiken has 15 seconds left to act
OMGClayAiken raises to $36,000
Gus Hansen has 15 seconds left to act
Gus Hansen raises to $54,062, and is all in
OMGClayAiken calls $17,874, and is all in
Gus Hansen shows [Ah Ks 8h As]
OMGClayAiken shows [5s Ac 8c Jc]
Uncalled bet of $188 returned to Gus Hansen
*** TURN *** [2d 6c 8s] [4d]
*** RIVER *** [2d 6c 8s 4d] [Qd]
Gus Hansen shows a pair of Aces
OMGClayAiken shows a pair of Eights
Gus Hansen wins the pot ($116,745) with a pair of Aces
OMGClayAiken adds $8,000
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $116,748 | Rake $3
Board: [2d 6c 8s 4d Qd]
Seat 1: patatino (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: PrtectYaNeck (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 3: Gus Hansen (big blind) showed [Ah Ks 8h As] and won ($116,745) with a pair of Aces
Seat 4: slaktarn didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: David Benyamine didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: OMGClayAiken showed [5s Ac 8c Jc] and lost with a pair of Eights

pokenum -o 5s ac 8c jc - ah ks 8h as -- 2d 6c 8s
Omaha Hi: 820 enumerated boards containing 8s 6c 2d
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
5s Ac Jc 8c 231 28.17 559 68.17 30 3.66 0.300
As Ks Ah 8h 559 68.17 231 28.17 30 3.66 0.700

Sort of a bummer we can't get results/news from the Big Game... reading PA's most recent blog sounds like there is some nice action in there recently. I know that it's a lot of cash and very private, but it would be nice to know what goes down in there...

Dealer: Phil Ivey wins the pot ($19,391.50) with a flush, Ace
high

David Oppenheim: lol i had a flush

David Oppenheim: with a pair of course

Phil Ivey: thats what u get for taking that long to call

David Oppenheim: give me button
Phil Ivey: sup rail
Dealer: David Oppenheim has timed out

David Oppenheim: give me button

Phil Ivey: hahaha jus quit i dont care

David Oppenheim: list4en when isee you i will check your chin

David Oppenheim: if you dont give me button

Phil Ivey: good luck wit that one too tough guy

David Oppenheim: thats how we do it rail

Phil Ivey: u better stick to fighting 60 year old bookmakers

David Oppenheim: we dont take kindly to button stealers

10k fight yo

lol @ sup rail comment