Matt Marafioti is such a great guy that if he were there he wouldn't even of upped his bet.

" You didnt see that you were being set up on the FORTY FIRST win?!?!?! "

I will say this though, if he were in charge, the Nugget would have the best blueberry muffins in all of Nevada, if not the world.

LOL!!!

Has anyone read whether the cards came out in order, in suits (as in a deck you'd buy from the store)? Or in another fixed (but less obvious) pattern. If the former, I can't imagine any floor personnel could fail to notice...

Or, at least, that's what we would tell Will Reynolds.

I hope the Nugget spends millions in legal fees and doesnt get a dime back from anyone, they should be punished for their all round stupidity for this one

Unbelievable

Why am I suddenly thinking of the Hardy Boys books?

LOL...Oh boy imagine how pissed DeNiro would be if they came out As 2s 3s 4s 5s every hand and nobody noticed for 41 straight hands? LOL

Anyone know what game it was? If it was mini-baccarat it is a royal lol.

If this lawsuit is somehow upheld (lol) and if I had played at all at that casino and NOT noticed the pattern in the cards then I would go about suing the casino for failing to deal me a fair game through their woefully inadequate procedures.

Yup, it was indeed mini-bac.

Players are definetly allowed to look for patterns in the deck while gambling. In fact, we encourage it!

As long as they're wrong.

Pitchforks and torches time imo.

There weren't 14 players. I don't play Mini-bac but it seats 6-8 I think. Maybe the others were placing 'add-on' bets w/ the players ok. Plus there's only 2 hands: Player (which switches) and Banker. The other players bet 'Player' or 'Banker' and either one of them was winning each hand or it was an easily recognizable pattern. Each game uses 4 to 6 cards so I averaged 5 which would be 205 cards.

It's been a while since I played bac tho so I hope I've got this right.

neway, pretty sure that lot's of ppl got fired and also that NJ casino sec ppl have some sort of peace officer status and that they're not rent-a-cops. Don't want to bother looking it up.

This

Thanks!!

hmm i dunno betfair witheld money from gamblers who took advantage of a promotion of theirs and got away with it- not exactly unprecedented behaviour. I knew casinos in las vegas are allowed detain and question you but 8 hrs has got to be too much.

also this lawsuit is more absurd when you consider that card counting and slots counting (on non-rng machines obv) is legal lol

Queue up next week's story of the craps tales inadvertently using Dungeons and Dragons dice.

is this real tea?

wtf is wrong with this world... is it not part of a dealers job to shuffle the cards?

They wouldn't bother buying pre-shuffled cards if they were going to go ahead and shuffle them themselves anyway. It's for cost savings, and they are supposed to be certified pre-shuffled.

I'm guessing they do this for bac games because it's the custom for bac players to pretty much destroy the cards as they're squeezing them, so they probably only use a deck once. This makes cost savings on the deck and shuffling more important.

"Hey floor this deck isn't shuffled."

"Teacher you forgot to assign our homework."

Any chance the casino has both preshuffled decks and unshuffled decks and someone just goofed up?

Or Danny Ocean is involved and has an inside man at the factory.

Every now and then you hear about a baccarat scam usually totally into the millions that was pulled off with unshuffled cards. I mean geez get a shuffle machine that shuffles 8 decks, alternate red and blue decks, one color in play while the other is shuffling, even if it is new cards each shoe.

The TV show American Greed showed a scam gang that paid dealers to do a false shuffle of cards. The cards were used again for next shoe and simply came out in the exact opposite order of the shoe before. At baccarat players often have a piece of paper "keeping score" of the times it came out dealer, player or tie. But the scam gang was writing out order cards and knew after the dealer false shuffle the exact order of cards for next shoe.

The cards absolutely positively have to be shuffle at the table by a machine or these types of baccarat scams will continue.

"Listen, if you didn't know you're bein' scammed, you're too ****in' dumb to keep this job.
If you did know, you were in on it. Either way, you're out.
Get out! Go on. Let's go."