2p2 needs to seriously stop making FTP look bad. It is driving more and more good players to Pokerstas and it is really ****ing with my bankrollol.

I will be playing at stars again. Rake back is not even worth it anymore with this shady company.

I can't beleive how many big and mostly unessary words were used in that response, my head almost asploded imagining a Sam Watterson wannabe FTP support guy writing that ****

If you read enough posts here on 2+2 or on full tilts own forum it is blatantly obvious that full tilt believes they do not need to treat their customers with any form of respect. From Howard Lederer calling Gobboboy a freak and a very weird dude, to their incredibly poor handling of the recent problems with withdrawals, to their current system of rakeback for some but only if your last name ends in a vowel and you were born in Wyoming. Full Tilt obviously believes that they have the market cornered with so few options left open to American players but I think that they underestimate Pokerstars. I used to play exclusively at full tilt but for someone not offered rakeback, that is just poor judgment. Until full tilt can offer a fair rate to ALL PLAYERS I will be playing at Pokerstars.

Here is their response to why some existing players are being given rakeback through rakebackpros but others are not...

While I understand your frustration in not yet being offered a place
with Rakebackpros please note that Full Tilt Poker does not offer
rakeback directly, so we cannot influence the decision, or speed of
processing, of our partner Rakebackpros.

In reviewing your emails I can also see that you have also requested
that your account (Pilkain) be closed. We have now processed this as per

your request.

Please understand this does not make you eligible to open a new account
on Full Tilt Poker. To ensure a level playing field, our policy allows
only one Full Tilt Poker account per player.

Now here is a post from this forum by a player that was included in the test phase of rakebackpros:

FTP just gave me a rakeback account!
I stopped playing there about a year ago, but I just received one of those letters to sign up with rb. I stopped playing b/c they closed my other rakeback account and made me go back to my old non-rakeback-having account. Looks like they just got another player back.

So.... I guess multi accounters get preferential treatment?
Obviously some insane troll is running full tilt and living in howard lederer's stomach.

This will show up if you are in the UK. The UK government has a white list of commissions and KGC is not on it. This prevents any site that is licensed by the KGC to advertise on TV (I think, or radio...). So Full Tilt shows that commission link if a player is coming from the UK (maybe elsewhere).

i can't believe he got not one, but a series of responses from FTP support. must be some kind of record.

Ah, mystery solved, thank you kind Sir!

be glad they atleast send you a response to your e-mails. Sounds like they dont want players to know were there operating and other details of there bussiness prob to make it harder for the DOJ or others seeking legal action against them.

I have often wonder about Ft after reading lots of posts on there forum you here alot of playes who e-mail a question then get a respons to e-mail a diferant department it always seem to me like all these dif department must not work in the same location or i would be easy do for one to derect the e-mail to the right department almost like its all outsorced Like when you call the 800 number on something you bought for support and you get an indian lady that you can bearly understad how hands calls for many companys.
I doubt that most of the people who work for full tilt and there support really know each orther or even work in the same physical place

We really need Howard to see this and hear our displeasure. It's much worse than the jimmy frike fiasco. Give it 5 stars, a good bump and a PM to FTP Doug. Force FTP to the Isle of Man at least.

It's not you, it's an absurdly aggressive reply.

You should send a third mail along the lines of "ZOMG you lawyered up and wanna show that you can sue my ass off? Level ldo. Say hi to Scott and the Chief".

Ya, agree with this

http://www.kahnawake.com/gamingcommission/

Dont see Party or Starzzzz (to legit ta quit)

I was thinking about depositing on FT, but with their payout problems and now this, there's not a chance in h3ll I'm going to.

I am a lawyer. A lawyer did not write the Full Tilt letter -- no competent attorney would write in such a fashion.

Wow, whoever wrote that is missing a few brain cells or a few years of education. I would not be threatened by anyone who writes "unproved factual assertions" in an email meant to be taken seriously. This is a bad way to represent a company.

Also, PokerStars totally crushes here. Might make me want to transfer my money.

wow they do have a large list of permit holders most i have never heard of
i wonder why the U.K. denied them the right to advertise in the U.K. and alowed others to.

Good point!
What exactly is an unfounded factual statement?

I don't know the exact details, it has to do with some qualifications of the gaming commission. I did a quick google search and found this article.

http://www.tightpoker.com/news/Kahna...elisting.shtml

I think they had someone from prepaid legal write that second response.

Full tilt is a joke.

My wife signed up for an account and I made sure she got rakeback.

They tell me they are closing my duplicate account wtf? So I say wtf, my wife cannot have an account?

They say, "oh she can but she just needs to send us a photo id and we'll need yours too"

LMFAO, So we send in our ids and they say, "you can keep your account but your wife must send in her photo id from her email" This is after telling me we needed to send in the id from the registered email account of my wifes account.

LOLFULLTILTAMENTS.

This response by Stars should not be missed.

The plot thickens yet again.


This is getting way outta hand.

stars support seriously owns every other sites, makes me want to move my roll there

All Stars needs is the Tiltware skin and it's be purrrrfect.

LOL @ you thinking our infos are safer in Canada than in Europe.