All anybody who disagrees with me ahs to do is to say so AND give their reasoning of what their take on my comment is and why they believe itheir point of view which is opposite or different to mine.

I say what I think and explain why I think it.

Others just dismiss it and offer no comment and simnply say this is hogwash or whatever with no reasoning.

That is trolling and deserves the appropriate garbage response.

make a point and I will answer

Dismiss it carte blanche and I will treat it with the contempt it deserves.

qualify your disagreement and explain it and you get a reasoned reply otherwise dont waste my time or yours...just put me on the ignore list

"You can fool some of the people all of the time"

Believe what you want but I am happy with my reasoning and am confident the sun will rise tomorrow morning.

By the way, I'm sure when they said "significant amounts", $100k is much closer to accurate than the $10k that have been floating around widely.

I think they're probably right. However, I don't see how this means we should be opposed to such a deal (including DOJ approval / support, as per Harry that is a necessity for there being a deal) or how it means that such a deal makes FTP$ worth 3c.

Why not simply be quiet instead of contributing to the garbage?

Yes, you do. And no, you haven't.

OK I have decdied to put numerous idiots on my ignore list.

Pointless feeding the idiots on here

You have copy/pasted the 'Gotcha Harry! Admit you were wrong' post at least three times. What is the point in that? If you wanted to multi-quote every post I've made that contained something later proven wrong you might wear out your mouse.

This is a discussion thread and we are voicing opinions based on limited information. Besides, Harry's over-all opinion that a deal in which everyone gets paid will never happen has not changed for months.

If you're tired of hearing it, why keep asking him about it?

I mean, there's still a chance the deal will not be done and there is an off-(but close to)-0% chance these three parties lied in their statements.

But that's the information we all are operating on right now.

Ah thats much better...my ignore list is now 9 from the previous 2 and I feel a lot more at peace with the world seing those posts disappear

At least I didn't get the 'sunrise reply'.

You seem to be reading something more sinister in that brief fragment of the article than I do. Doubtless the form the potential investment might take is not completely clear at this point, so I'd think it perfectly understandable that Tapie would refrain from commenting in detail about player repayments. I'm sure he doesn't want to commit to anything specific now without knowing just what money will become available (and when) from shareholders and the DOJ. So I don't find anything especially meaningful in the fact that he declines to be quoted on the subject.

Took you long enough

As I said you posted something in a civil manner and I replied as such.

Obviously a little is lost in translation which makes the article seem a little odd to me as they kind of contradict each other slightly.

He will pay all players but will not comment on how and if he will pay the players.

Just like the quotes from Ifrah...I am always sceptical and intrigued as to whether there is a hidden meaning in basic comments and words int he one liners.

I'm sorry if my posting come across that way, it is not meant as a 'Gotcha'. I am simply trying to understand his position. I never said I was tired of hearing it, I just wanted him to clarify.

There is a difference between the opinion that a deal in which everyone gets paid will never happen and the opinion that any deal would be bad for the players. I haven't seen sufficient reasoning for the latter.

If this keeps up mods are going to change the title of this thread to "FTP low content discussion thread" sometime in the very near future...


It's not 100% the poster's fault. There's just not enough new information to keep the thread from derailing.

Tapie Lawyer: "Makes Sense" for Full Tilt to Reapply for AGCC License

Talks between Tapie and Full Tilt have continued in recent days in spite of reports that they were nearly dead. Dayanim explained, “We are focused on trying to effectuate some kind of transaction that will allow Full Tilt to continue forward as a viable European-facing entity as quickly as possible.” Full Tilt is bleeding cash month by month while it remains shuttered and, to that end, Tapie’s counsel noted, “We’re conscious of the fact that Full Tilt isn’t doing business. No company can sit idle forever.”

http://www.pocketfives.com/articles/...icense-586850/

Could someone who doesn't have me on ignore post this link for those that might be interested

My view of this thread:

Exactly what "signs of good news" have we seen from FT in the last 6 months?

I'd like to know what you are talking about because I haven't seen ANY.

There is no limit on how far into the future an agreement could reach. DOJ certainly could agree to something like what you propose, though I doubt it would. Too much uncertainty in whether they'd get paid if it depends on poker being regulated in the US.

Thanks and I don't really disagree but at the same time I don't see why deals can't include things that may not be that likely as incentives for both sides. It's certainly worth >0 to the DoJ if they could be attached to profits from a future US market regardless of how likely it is and it would also be a somewhat easy chip for the buyers to play because if it comes to that, their investment will have just hit big.

I just don't have any experience with how deals get structured with them and my gut tells me what you say is just too logical and that they don't get involved with such levels of speculation. Couldn't hurt though!

Ah, hdemet. ^_^ In his desperate need to know the objective truth he escapes the voices who tell him that he can't by putting his hands on his ears and eyes.

Full Tilt Poker: Laurent Tapie confirms negotiations with DOJ are ongoing and is optimistic, more will be revealed end of October

On whatever side you stand, you really gotta put props to him for his open and regular updates. I feel that's very unusual but I really like it.

My first impressions:

Tapie will put up money to get the site back up and running

However no commitment by him to pay back players but to do a deal that involves the arranging of repayment of players whatever that may mean and you all know what i think it means.

Very useful and interesting.

BTW I have not put you on ignore and cannot justify doing so as you make a lot of sense to me.

I like how he manages to get a plug in for ISPT regardless of the interview topic.