^^ well said joey.
(Never thought i'd say that)

Be careful, I received a temp-ban for a comment like this. Especially when you talk to DF. She is protected.

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I'm pretty sure DF stated her geographic background in a podcast interview.

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I ran across this quote from a candidate for public office.

Just struck me as a solid template for HL, CF, etc. to use. Not trying to get into political debates (avoiding the truth or falsity of the statement), just found it funny.

"[Redacted] insisted that he abandoned the [company] he founded to run [another enterprise] and that, after [XXXX], he had "no role whatsoever in the management" of [the company] even though [company registration] documents listed him as president, chairman of the board and sole stockholder." I left any responsibility whatsoever, any effort, any involvement whatsoever in the management of [the company] after [XXXX],"

How much did Lederer, Ferguson, and FT contribute in toto to the PPA over the years, either directly or through 3rd parties ?

I think there might be a difference between US and Europe. IDK maybe the following is true?

US seems to start with a big number and then work down.
Europe seems to start with a number and then work up.

I think the first has immediate pressure for settlements/pleading, the second if complexity and additional costs are likely to ratchet up the final costs bill.

Seriously, I can't handle this anymore. I miss FTP so much. I miss the golden era of online poker. I miss railing the pros. I miss the banter, and even just the friendly chat. I miss the enthusiasm so many people had for the game. I was watching Season 2 of the WPT earlier, and I literally felt a tear fall from my eye as it brought back better memories. I'm not American, and I can still play on Stars and Party, but it's not the same just playing against 12-tabling Eastern European Rocks. I don't even care about my locked up money anymore, I just want to turn back time.

I really hope a deal is made, and I'm sorry if this is a little off-topic, I just wanted to get that off my chest.

They sent poker back to the dark ages. That's their contribution.

Is that Romney referring to Bain?

That seems like a bit of a twisted take on the Anne frank law by the doj. It seems the intent was to make debts illegal to collect. Not illegal to be subject to forfeiture.

If that is the foundation of the doj case I see this going to court but I don't know the rest of the factors. I tend to lean towards the side of the doj instinctively on this but the more I see the stronger motivation I see for Stars to fight and not settle. They lucked out with FTP committing clear cut crimes outside of the scope of the initial doj attack.

Obviously a settlement is highly possible still but it seems like the doj might have to concede a lot. The one advantage they have is a layperson jury might believe gambling to always be illegal until a law specifically legalizes it instead of vice versa. (I mean online poker when I say gambling)

In the US it works like this:

US company does bad thing in US then they have to pay [...],
foreign company does bad thing in US then they pay [...] times 10

hahhahah

I bet she didn't know the answer?

I wonder how many gun owners think that the NRA is just a mouthpiece for gun and ammo manufacturers because the NRA gets donations from gun and ammo manufacturers.

I also wonder if one of the reasons the NRA is effective is because gun owners realize that that when it comes to political and legal rights they have the same interests as gun and ammo manufacturers.

This thread is about FTP not the PPA. The PPA has its own forum here on 2+2 and every question you have about PPA finances or PPA structure has already been answered there. Numerous times. And I will answer them again if you post them there.

But I wont answer them in this thread nor list in this thread all the ways the PPA is fighting for your rights; this thread has already suffered more than its fair share of derails.

/derail

Skallagrim

[fictional alert]

@erichollreiser went on to say he felt comfortable with his 7c 2s with the j-10-q diamond flop.

I don't live in the city, but happy to say hi when possible. Let's save it for a celebration?

This is nonsense. From what I heard you posted some pre-teen a/s/l crap and asked for personal facebook links lol. Let me save you the trouble, I am older than dirt and twice as ugly, therefore your other questions are moot.

I also disclaim any protection whatsoever, nor have I ever asked for or expected any.

Consider it a date. I've got enough money coming to me that you can even order an appetizer

Good Gog man....get a sense of humor. You honestly think I am trying to turn NVG in to match.com?

Maybe you haven't asked for it but I have seen it before that people have been banned when you are involved.
It was an innocent question that got me temp banned. I don't blame you for it. Some mods just don't have a feeling for the "game", like a referee. A good referee reads the game.
If this thread only contained 1000-words-long posts about legal stuff how many people you think would follow this thread? I think you also write here because you have a big audience . A big audience also wants to see some entertainment, some one-liners, Howard jokes, some off topic derail.
Like I said, a good mod (like SGT RJ) knows how to controll the off topic derail
without banning somebody every 15 minutes. But apparently some mods that showed up the last few days just live to ban somebody.

There should really be a substantial party at the end of the fiasco. We will boil pigs and roast lobsters in effigy.

This is what Annie Duke's and Howard's daughter would look like.

LOL.... great way to start the day....

Is this for real please ?

yeah i was wondering the same thing... is this photoshopped?

Live freeroll for all victims hosted by FTP shareholders in Vegas. $440 million added to the prizepool.

Seriously though, even if we get paid in full they should do something to attempt to make amends for the 1 + years of separation from our money. What's the juice on $350 million over one year?

Someone tweeted it the other day. I believe it's real.

Please don't start a discussion of how much extra we should get when they reopen. You are just a few comments away from the useless
Iron man medals and fpp point discussion.